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In "The Charlie's Angels Casebook,"
Cheryl Ladd stated that sometimes Kate wouldn't
speak to her at all. Kate was apparently jealous of
Farrah's attention in the first season (the series
was - after all - created for Kate!). Her resentment
grew when Cheryl arrived on the set and
quickly made friends with the tech crew.
They would invite her to lunch with them -
something they had never done with Kate.
On a recent t.v. special, writer Edward Lakso confirmed
that Kate was jealous of Cheryl and was often
"less than kind." You can even see the tension in some
of the later episodes from Season 2 & 3.
When asked about this in an interview,
Jaclyn Smith would only say, "yes, there was
some friction between them - it was almost
immediate and I don't know what started it."
Cheryl Ladd stated that sometimes Kate wouldn't
speak to her at all. Kate was apparently jealous of
Farrah's attention in the first season (the series
was - after all - created for Kate!). Her resentment
grew when Cheryl arrived on the set and
quickly made friends with the tech crew.
They would invite her to lunch with them -
something they had never done with Kate.
On a recent t.v. special, writer Edward Lakso confirmed
that Kate was jealous of Cheryl and was often
"less than kind." You can even see the tension in some
of the later episodes from Season 2 & 3.
When asked about this in an interview,
Jaclyn Smith would only say, "yes, there was
some friction between them - it was almost
immediate and I don't know what started it."
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She was jealous of Cheryl because she had lunch with the tech crew? That is difficult to believe. If jealousy was the reason she didn't speak to Cheryl then why did she speak to Farrah when she was, according to you, jealous of her too? Ed Lasko wrote the scripts that Kate complained about so much so the fact that he has not very nice things to say about her is not surprising. I guess my point is that none of us, including Ed Lasko, have any idea what Kate's problem with Cheryl was.
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That's a very good point, much has
been written about this - and Kate actually
didn't speak to Farrah during this time either
because Farrah was negotiating for more money
and that soured their relationship as well.
They supposedly didn't speak for over a year.
My GUESS would be that Kate was a more serious
actress, and probably wanted the show to
take a different direction than that of "jiggle"
status. When bubbly Cheryl came to (successfully)
replace megastar Farrah - I'm sure it riled Kate - along
with Lakso's lackluster da0scripts. I enjoyed that t.v. show
and liked all 6 angels It's true that no one will ever
know what the problem between Kate and Cheryl
really was - but when a show reaches such iconic
status and exposure, people always wonder about
the backstory. (like the rift between Bruce Willis
and Cybil Shephard on MOONLIGHTING).
It's interesting and contradicting sometimes.
That's why books have been written.
That's why there's message boards.
been written about this - and Kate actually
didn't speak to Farrah during this time either
because Farrah was negotiating for more money
and that soured their relationship as well.
They supposedly didn't speak for over a year.
My GUESS would be that Kate was a more serious
actress, and probably wanted the show to
take a different direction than that of "jiggle"
status. When bubbly Cheryl came to (successfully)
replace megastar Farrah - I'm sure it riled Kate - along
with Lakso's lackluster da0scripts. I enjoyed that t.v. show
and liked all 6 angels It's true that no one will ever
know what the problem between Kate and Cheryl
really was - but when a show reaches such iconic
status and exposure, people always wonder about
the backstory. (like the rift between Bruce Willis
and Cybil Shephard on MOONLIGHTING).
It's interesting and contradicting sometimes.
That's why books have been written.
That's why there's message boards.
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Yes, people should speculate if that's what they want to do. It's just that you ( I think it was you) stated that she was jealous as if it was fact and not just speculation by Ed Lasko. Perhaps I took you too literally. I'll get off my soapbox now. Have a good day.
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These stars are human, and become jealous or resentful like we all do.
We all have worked with with people that,shall we say, rubbed us the wrong way.
I don't think Cheryl would lie; she has admitted it.
I am sure Jackson does not think Ladd is a bad person.
I perceive Cheryl was a positive happy wife and mother, the new blond-bombshell on the show with the media-attention. And the fact the show was written for Jackson already attached.
I would be jealous tooif I was a woman.
We all have worked with with people that,shall we say, rubbed us the wrong way.
I don't think Cheryl would lie; she has admitted it.
I am sure Jackson does not think Ladd is a bad person.
I perceive Cheryl was a positive happy wife and mother, the new blond-bombshell on the show with the media-attention. And the fact the show was written for Jackson already attached.
I would be jealous tooif I was a woman.
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Kate did point out that Cheryl and her weren't friends. But in my case this was the biggest point in Kate's life having a hit series and starring in it and she probably felt threatened that this show could jump the shark with Cheryl's arrival and it was successful with Farrah aboard.
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I actually couldn't care less if they were friends or not. I don't particularly like some girls I work with, for different reasons, but I think as long as Kate & Cheryl's 'relationship' didn't affect the show, then what does it matter. I didn't see it affect the show, maybe some people did, but the show was fine for me still enjoyable and that's what matters to me.
Not everyone's gonna agree with everyone & maybe some things are a little exaggerated, isn't that what happens in Celeb Land? I'm not gonna argue that some things possibly have some truth in them, but hey, that's life isn't it lol We may never know the exact truth and does it matter?
Let's be glad of such a great show :D
Not everyone's gonna agree with everyone & maybe some things are a little exaggerated, isn't that what happens in Celeb Land? I'm not gonna argue that some things possibly have some truth in them, but hey, that's life isn't it lol We may never know the exact truth and does it matter?
Let's be glad of such a great show :D
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While watching seasons 2 abd 3 of Charlie's Angels. I viewed nothing but professionalism from Cheryl and Kate
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I agree as well. There was always an
onscreen chemistry betweem Sabrina and Kris.
onscreen chemistry betweem Sabrina and Kris.
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there was one episode in season 2 Kris [Cheryl} shot a guy in a showdown Kris went to pieces it was the first time Kris shot someone Sabrina immediately took the gun and took Kris in her arms and consoled her. i give kudos to both actresses to put aside their differences and give a moving performance.
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Naturally, neither woman could let their dislike show on-screen; they would never stop taping if it did.
But Ladd seems like a very congienal person,and Jackson(aside from ANGELS) has always seemed discontent.
However, I think the other ANGELS were just as serious about their work as Jackson. It bothers me when it is perceived that Jackson was the "smart" one.
And the other Angels did not "jiggle" like the media enjoys saying; when in Bosley's office,they always wore pants and full-blouses.
POLICE WOMAN's Angie Dickenson was in a serious show, and she "jigged" just as much
But Ladd seems like a very congienal person,and Jackson(aside from ANGELS) has always seemed discontent.
However, I think the other ANGELS were just as serious about their work as Jackson. It bothers me when it is perceived that Jackson was the "smart" one.
And the other Angels did not "jiggle" like the media enjoys saying; when in Bosley's office,they always wore pants and full-blouses.
POLICE WOMAN's Angie Dickenson was in a serious show, and she "jigged" just as much
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"Hi, jimellis! I would say that Kate and Cheryl probably have very different temperament. I love Kate Jackson, but she seems like she has a lot of nervous energy. And she'd either love you or hate you."
True, and she'd show you too.!
I can be straightforward(and disliked) too,troy.but not at work, You can't bring your inner-demons,or whatever, to the job. It doesn't work.
But there is nothing to have hated about Ladd at that time; it was Jackson's own self-absorption.
True, and she'd show you too.!
I can be straightforward(and disliked) too,troy.but not at work, You can't bring your inner-demons,or whatever, to the job. It doesn't work.
But there is nothing to have hated about Ladd at that time; it was Jackson's own self-absorption.
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Kate seemed much softer and approachable on THE ROOKIES, the show she had before ANGELS. She wore her long hair up with her nurses' uniform.
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I would be jealous tooif I was a woman.
But you're as close to being a woman as a man can be.
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I've always heard that cheryl was a b^^ch to Shelley Hack and got her fired.
what? It's the complete opposite; Ladd is not that type. She supported Hack(see the other posts)
what? It's the complete opposite; Ladd is not that type. She supported Hack(see the other posts)
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Cheryl Ladd was very good to Shelley Hack. When Shelley joined the cast of Charlie's Angels, Cheryl knew how hard it was to join a popular series and feel like an outsider, so she did nothing but welcome Shelley Hack with open arms, and they became very good friends. I saw an interview with Cheryl Ladd on television not too long ago, and she said that Shelley Hack was fired from Charles Angels and made the scapegoat for the series ratings falling dramatically after Kate Jackson had left the show, and the scripts were getting worse. Cheryl always defends Shelley, and never had a problem with her..Kate Jackson and Cheryl Ladd, unfortunately, that was a different story.
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I am surprised that no one has mentioned that Cheryl and Kate were in "Satan's School for Girls" three years prior to &qu16d0ot;Angels" debut and FOUR years prior to Ladd's joining the show. As Jaclyn put it, there was an almost immediate friction between the two.
No one but the two of them really knows why, but I would be willing to bet that whatever the reason, it started on "Satan's School for Girls" and was carried over in "Angels."
And why are people assuming it was Kate's fault? Cheryl could easily have been to blame for pushing Kate's buttons. Granted, Kate had a reputation on the show, but Cheryl, if you'll pardon the term doesn't seem like she was an angel either. In fact, it's usually the holier than thou-cute as a button-innocent looking ones that get you the most.
I admit, I'd love to know just what went down
"And while I slept, you came in, and gave to me, your key"
No one but the two of them really knows why, but I would be willing to bet that whatever the reason, it started on "Satan's School for Girls" and was carried over in "Angels."
And why are people assuming it was Kate's fault? Cheryl could easily have been to blame for pushing Kate's buttons. Granted, Kate had a reputation on the show, but Cheryl, if you'll pardon the term doesn't seem like she was an angel either. In fact, it's usually the holier than thou-cute as a button-innocent looking ones that get you the most.
I admit, I'd love to know just what went down
"And while I slept, you came in, and gave to me, your key"
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I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during whatever happened between Kate and Cheryl too, i want to know what went down aswell also..
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Nothing has to go down for 2 people to have innate dislike for each other,as most of know from our own lives. However, there seems to be a sense of denial ,or double-standard,about this when it comes to tv stars and idealizng them to be freinds. No one concrete incident has to set it into motion.
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"it's usually the holier than thou-cute as a button-innocent looking ones that get you the most."
True, but I didn't get a sense that Ladd was trying to present herself that way. She didn't seem to act holier than thou or cute as a button, but just being herself. She worked as hard as Jackson in her early years; Kate is the one who lucked out early.
True, but I didn't get a sense that Ladd was trying to present herself that way. She didn't seem to act holier than thou or cute as a button, but just being herself. She worked as hard as Jackson in her early years; Kate is the one who lucked out early.
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And why are people assuming it was Kate's fault? Cheryl could easily have been to blame for pushing Kate's buttons. Granted, Kate had a reputation on the show, but Cheryl, if you'll pardon the term doesn't seem like she was an angel either. In fact, it's usually the holier than thou-cute as a button-innocent looking ones that get you the most.
Maybe Cheryl is the blame, but Kate is the one heavily rumored to of kept Cheryl out of the reunions, and Kate has admitted that she will not do anything Angel-related if it's not Jaclyn, Farrah, and herself.
Also, I remember seeing an interview where Jaclyn stated that Kate could be a "bully." I could be wrong, though. However, maybe Kate had a good reason for not liking Cheryl.
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When was Jaclyn supposed to have said THAT?
I'm livin' in desperate times. Bein' alive's my only crime
I'm livin' in desperate times. Bein' alive's my only crime
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Have you watched the show? Lightweight or not, the Angels COULD act. Until Hack. Once the producers realized their mistake, Tiffany was not used as fully as, say, Kris before her. Emphasis really shifted to Jaclyn and Cheryl. Even Tanya Roberts played her character, Julie, better than Hack as Tiffany.
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maybe K jackson thought she would bring the show down,i liked Cheryl ladd but she was alittle to sexy and i think kate wanted the show to be more serious and less fluff but it still workrd with cheryl and i liked her
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We have always heard Cheryl's side of the story about how Kate mistreated her but maybe there could be more to the story than we know have we ever heard Kate's? Also maybe Kate was so discouraged over Farrah's disparture that she wasn't ready to except Cheryl taking over Farrah postion because her and Farrah was so close.
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Amber, even if Kate was upset about Farrah leaving, I still don't understand why she would be mad at Cheryl.
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Diamond97, that is Cheryl's side of the story. We have never heard ANYTHING from Kate other than she and Cheryl weren't friends. When Kate's book comes out next year, we will learn everything. Ooh! I can't wait! But back to the subject at hand, don't be so quick to judge Kate. Cheryl has a much darker side from the public, from what I understand, so she could have provoked Kate easily.
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"All I want in life1c84 is a thirty share and a twenty rating."
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HeartMonger, I was responding to what Amber (not Cheryl) said it might be.
I love Kate, but others have commented about Kate's rudeness to Cheryl. Cheryl isn't the only one who stated this. I've seen interviews where Nolan Miller and others on the set of CA commented about the rude way Kate treated Cheryl. Plus, Kate makes it pretty obvious that she doesn't like Cheryl when she always ignores her with anything pertaining to the show. Kate only mentions Farrah, herself and Jaclyn and the first season.
I'm not judging Kate. That's between them. I don't know Kate or Cheryl personally. But I would love to know the reason for the feud. Maybe when the book comes out we'll get some answers.
I love Kate, but others have commented about Kate's rudeness to Cheryl. Cheryl isn't the only one who stated this. I've seen interviews where Nolan Miller and others on the set of CA commented about the rude way Kate treated Cheryl. Plus, Kate makes it pretty obvious that she doesn't like Cheryl when she always ignores her with anything pertaining to the show. Kate only mentions Farrah, herself and Jaclyn and the first season.
I'm not judging Kate. That's between them. I don't know Kate or Cheryl personally. But I would love to know the reason for the feud. Maybe when the book comes out we'll get some answers.
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' I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't marry her first husband just because he had a famous father and was successful in the business himself.'
Maybe,but we don't know. Even if she did, it doesn't mean she didn't love him
'Also she helped the demise of her second husband's first marriage'.
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I recall when this happened. My question is whether that marriage was already on the rocks, if the two were already seperated at the time.
I'm not making excuses for Ladd, but we don''t know all the facts.
Maybe,but we don't know. Even if she did, it doesn't mean she didn't love him
'Also she helped the demise of her second husband's first marriage'.
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I recall when this happened. My question is whether that marriage was already on the rocks, if the two were already seperated at the time.
I'm not making excuses for Ladd, but we don''t know all the facts.
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shes a scorpio,thats why,im a scorpio and i can understand
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shes a scorpio,thats why,im a scorpio and i can understand
That's why WHAT?
Anyway, isn't Jaclyn Smith also a Scorpio? She seems to get along fine with practically everybody.
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How do I know WHAT? :)
Oh, you mean whether Jaclyn gets along with others? Well, nobody has anything but nice things to say abut her, so it's indicative of how she manages her relationships. Is she were a harpy, we'd probably know it by know.
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Oh, you wanna play THAT game, eh? Cancers are downright snippy and Cheryl is a Cancer.
Actually, I have heard from people in the industry that Cheryl is nice, but very DRIVEN, and has a tendency to come off very rude first-hand. The same people have told me that Kate is one of the most Professional people in the industry, and had no tolerance lackluster actorsHmm. They were both just working hard, caught up in the glam-o-rama, and the cauldron just boiled.
"All I want in life is a thirty share and a twenty rating."
Actually, I have heard from people in the industry that Cheryl is nice, but very DRIVEN, and has a tendency to come off very rude first-hand. The same people have told me that Kate is one of the most Professional people in the industry, and had no tolerance lackluster actorsHmm. They were both just working hard, caught up in the glam-o-rama, and the cauldron just boiled.
"All I want in life is a thirty share and a twenty rating."
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i can beleive Kate wouldnt tolerate lacklustre actors,scorpios like me dont suffer fools gladly,also,i wasnt saying anything bad about Cheryl,i was just saying,ya know?
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LOL. Kate is my polar opposite. She is a Scorpio/Libra and I'm a Libra/Scorpio. Cheryl must have really been treading heavy because Scorpios DO have patience. I have heard that Kate is nothing but sweet to her fans. She's just a professional who has been at it from a young age, doesn't take nonsense from Pretty faces like Laddif you call Ladd pretty
"All I want in life is a thirty share and a twenty rating."
"All I want in life is a thirty share and a twenty rating."
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yer,i would call Cheryl pretty,your getting complicated with the libra/scorpio thing now,i wouldnt know what i was,i thought people were just called one sign,are you a scorpio to?,or a libra?
PS i read Kate didnt want Cheryl at some anniversarry special of the Angels for some reason ,thats a bit mean.
PS i read Kate didnt want Cheryl at some anniversarry special of the Angels for some reason ,thats a bit mean.
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I was told that it was ALWAYS supposed to be the original 3 at the Aaron Spelling tribute in the 2006 Emmy Awards, but Cheryl took it personally that she wasn't asked to be there, and sounded off saying it was Kate's fault when it wasn't. Ladd might be trouble after all.
I'm livin' in desperate times. Bein' alive's my only crime
I'm livin' in desperate times. Bein' alive's my only crime
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