Christine : Book readers: Questions about Roland LeBay and Christine

Book readers: Questions about Roland LeBay and Christine

I've been skimming the book, I don't have time to read it straight through.

I was wondering, does the book imply that Christine was always evil like the movie?

And do we know why Roland LeBay was so evil? Did he seem to be just born that way or was it because he was teased/an outcast?

And was he supposed to dabble in devil worship?

I can see that mainly the car is possessed by him after he dies, but, I wondered how he would manage to put his spirit in the car and/or Arnie just because he happened to be a cold-hearted person. It still seems odd that he could be that powerful.

I know the book had his mother call him a "changeling", I'm not too familiar with what that is, but is she supposed to be correct?

I just wonder if Christine was supposed to be inherently evil as well and that's why her and LeBay had such a connection, if that wouldn't have happened had it been another car, as he did have a Chevrolet before I think (or some other car).

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It's been a few years since I read the book but I'll answer the best I can

I would say Christine was always evilwhen Roland bought the car, it killed his daughter (I'm pretty sure) I remember his wife wanting him to get rid of it after that and he wouldn't

I think Roland was just born pissed and mad at the world, his family was always poor and he was used to being an only child for a while then his parents had other kids which meant more mouths to feed and them being poorer than before and that led to the "sh!tters" picking on him at school

He wasn't into devil worshipping or anything like that, but he was selfish as hell

I think his mom calls him a "changeling" because Arnie, sort of, changes from being himself and into Lebay as the book progresses, and yes, she is correctthere's a part in the end where Dennis sees his face physically turn into Lebay's, like in Pet Sematery when Gage's face changes forms after Louis gives him the shot of Morphine

I think Christine has always been evil, jealous, and obsessive and that's why her and Lebay connected, not much else to say about questionArnie had it worse in a way, he had Lebay taking over his body and personality, and Christine taking over his life and interest's



"Plum near cut his head in two mmmmm hmmmm"

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All right, thanks for the explanations! Makes sense to me.

I had wondered if the car was supposed to have killed LeBay's daughter, or if LeBay's brother was implying that Roland was the one who killed the daughter. Not when she started choking, but after, did he really try to save her.

I think King got the idea for Christine from James Dean's car "Little Bastard".

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I would say Christine killed her, as for Lebay trying to save her, I don't know if he would or notChristine was all he cared about and he probably wouldn't have have let anything come between them just as much Christine didnt want anyone interfering with them. I'm about to read it again, there's a lot of stuff ive forgotten. My favorite part is Buddy's death, it's got some action and its creepy as hell lol, another part that gave me chills was when the kid (can't remember which one) was working at the gas station in the middle of the night and Christine pulls up with Roland driving, Buddy, Moochie, and a few other guys from Buddy's crew riding as passengers and Buddy's corpse passes him a joint lol, it's kinda funny but if something like that happened to me I would flip out. Another good part is the New Years Eve chapter.

"Plum near cut his head in two mmmmm hmmmm"

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I like those scenes too! I was reading them as I skimmed it. When I get time I want to try to read the whole thing. I like the part where Arnie's driving and the radio starts playing news from the 1950's. Unlike in the movie where it just seems old songs just come on the radio, there was an actual oldies station that was modern, but just played old songs, and sometimes that's all Christine would get. And in this case, it was even playing news from the 50's which Arnie knew was bizarre. It was kind of neat the way King showed Arnie's thoughts about this.

Re: Book readers: Questions about Roland LeBay and Christine

I'm late I know, but I'm rereading the book now, it's one of my favorites. When Roland's brother talks to Dennis about the little girl, he mentions that she's choking and they didn't know about the Heimlich maneuver back then, and that Roland was punching her stomach to try and get her to throw up and holding her upside down. So it seems that he was actually trying to save her, but just wasn't able to. Not like Arnie, who didn't help Leigh, I think he was too far gone, he didn't go around to the other side of the car until the man opened the door and took Leigh out and gave her the Heimlich maneuver.

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Thanks for the answer. I still haven't had a chance to read the whole book, I should look for it and check it out, I need something to take my mind off things.

Re: Book readers: Questions about Roland LeBay and Christine

Been a while since I read it the last time, but it's pretty clear in the book that Christine wasn't "born evil" as in the movie. The assembly-line scenes were created for the movie and aren't based on anything from the book.

In fact, she's sold to Arnie by Roland himself - who then dies (off page IIRC) a short while later. In any case: In the book, Christine is possessed by Roland's evil spirit. IIRC there's even a scene where the narrator (Dennis) sees Roland's spirit behind Christine's wheel.

Another detail from the book that was left out (more or less) was that Christine had to be kept moving in order to re-generate. That's why Roland was wearing a back-brace (which they put on his brother for the movie): At some point, he had ruined his back pushing Christine around to "repair" her. The same happens to Arnie in the book and he also starts wearing a back-brace. Another detail to illustrate his transformation into "Roland 2.0".

S.

Re: Book readers: Questions about Roland LeBay and Christine

That's interesting, thanks for the explanation.

I wonder if the movie would have been better if Roland had been more of a player in it.

I also wondered if Christine in the movie was trying to frame Arnie for the Darnell murder. I could see Christine punishing the three bully students, because they had trashed her, but Darnell gave Arnie a place ro board Christine. The cop was seeming to think Arnie was dangerous with all the deaths of people Arnie knew, and even Arnie says "why" about the Darnell murder.

So in the book, was Roland really trying to ruin Arnie, I get he was sort of possessing Arnie, but was he also jealous and setting Arnie up for a fall?

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Well, Roland didn't mind if Arnie took a fall. Roland was a devilish man, not just a jerk.

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Thanks for the info. I have to get a chance to read the book, it sounds more interesting than the movie.

Re: Book readers: Questions about Roland LeBay and Christine

The book is WAY better than the movie. I highly recommend it! It answers all your questions and then some.

-Di

Re: Book readers: Questions about Roland LeBay and Christine

All right, thanks for the tip! :)

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Christine wasn't bad but LeBay was. He possessed the car and made it do all those evil acts. In the novel, LeBay appears in the car as a rotten corpse several times.

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You should definitely read it, if you haven't already. So many cool parts got removed for the movie.

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I've seen this point debated a lot on various sites and forums, with some believing that Christine wasn't "alive" at all in the book, and that everything she did Roland LeBay was actually responsible for. He simply used the car as a sort of "doorway" back from death to possess Arnie.

I've never agreed with this view at all. There are many indications in the novel that Christine had a personality and will of her own.

Here are some examples:


"Christine or the terrible female force that animated her would know Leigh wouldn't last long and she, Christine, would be around when Leigh was gone."


In the below excerpt, she is clearly acting under her own agency. No sign or mention of LeBay at all:


"By nine-thirty, when Christine's headlights suddenly came on in Will Darnell's deserted garage, cutting a bright arc through the interior blackness, Libertyville had totally shut down, except for the occasional cruising ploughs.

In the silent garage, Christine's engine gunned and fell off.

Gunned and fell off.

In the empty front seat, the gearshift lever dropped down into DRIVE.

Christine began to move.

The electric eye gadget clipped to the driver's sun-visor hummed briefly. Its low sound was lost in the howl of the wind. But the door heard; it rattled upward obediently on its tracks. Snow blew in and swirled gustily.

Christine passed outside, wraithlike in the snow. She turned right and moved down the street, her tires cutting through the deep snow cleanly and firmly, with no spin, skid, or hesitation.

A turnblinker came onone amber, winking eye in the snow. She turned left, toward JFK Drive."


There are other examples, but it seems to me in the novel that LeBay and Christine both had what you might describe as "extraordinary" qualities that were perhaps greater together than the sum of their partsand perhaps Arnie had something of this too, at least enough for LeBay's discorporated spirit to exploit.

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Thanks for the explanation and the book excerpts!

I agree with you.

I wonder if King based Christine off James Dean's car. There's a story that a couple of friends of Dean's got a bad feeling as soon as they saw the car.

Re: Book readers: Questions about Roland LeBay and Christine

You're welcome! Yes, I've read about the curse of James Dean's Porsche, I wouldn't be surprised if it was an influence on "Christine", particularly as she was a product of roughly the same era.

I've recently listened to the audiobook of "Christine" from start to finish (I do a LOT of driving), and there is no doubt in my mind that LeBay and the car were separate entities working in tandem. The notion that LeBay was responsible for everything is just not supported at allbut he was most certainly an accessory.

The big question for me iswas Christine in some way animated/conscious from the start, or did LeBay somehow invest her with those qualities, which then took on a life of their own?
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