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What do people pretend is in the Bible but is not actually in the Bible?

What?

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"THAT'S SOME BAD SHIT, HARRY!".

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English…the Bible is written in Hebrew.

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¡If the King James Bible was good enough for Paul and Silas, it's good enough for me!

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the Bible is written in Hebrew.
Well, part of it seems* to have been - the Jewish testament.

The New Testament was written in Greek.

But your point is correct - none of it was composed in English.

My own reply to the OP would be that religious fundamentalists pretend that the bible discusses homosexuality, but in point of fact it does not. Neither the word 'homosexual' nor the concept of sexual orientation existed when the bible was written, and attempts to place them in it are dishonest.



* As an aside: That the Jewish testament was composed in Hebrew has been the consensus, but given that Genesis and Exodus were composed at Alexandria in the 3rd century BCE, it's at least possible that it wasn't.

https://www.amazon.com/Berossus-Genesis-Manetho-Exodus-Hellenistic/dp/0567025926
https://vridar.org/tag/gmirkin-berossus-and-genesis/

If this theory is correct, it may well mean that these books were originally composed in Greek (the language of scholarship at Alexandria). Perhaps this was also the case for even more of the Hebrew canon (the pseudepigraphal 𝐿𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑓 𝐴𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑎𝑠 offering a hagiographical origins story to cover it up); hence the theory of 'Septuagint Priority':


Aramaic was the lingua franca of the Levant from the 3rd century BCE onward. Hebrew was retained only as a sacred or liturgical language (somewhat the way Catholicism has retained Latin), and not as a spoken language. This remained the case until as recently as the 19th and 20th centuries. Not a lot of people are aware of this; the common assumption is that Jews have always spoken in Hebrew.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hebrew-language

But, as Jewish relations with Hellenistic culture became increasingly strained from the 2nd century BCE - 2nd century CE, the originally Greek works of the Jewish testament would have been translated into Hebrew for religious use by Jews in that form from that point onward.

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True statements?

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Be kind to retards.

Fuck that.

The end isn't near, it's here, faggot.
Rejoice.

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Going to Heaven after you die.

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you do go

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Purgatory

"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

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The name and word ISN'T…but the concept IS! And that's what COUNTS!!

"THAT'S SOME BAD SHIT, HARRY!".

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Challenge.

Show me.

"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

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Lol.
Figures you'd reference catholics. Those folks dont know which day is the sabbath and think that the pope is the head of the church. Ridiculous.

"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

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Great links!

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The word "purgatory" is in the Bible … sort of.

1 Corinthians 3:15 states the following: "If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire (Gr. dia puros)."

Man must pass through "puros" to be saved. The place of fire/"puros" is purgatory.

Hope that helps! Here's the link to an article I wrote for more information: Where Is Purgatory in the Bible? https://www.thescottsmithblog.com/2018/07/where-is-purgatory-in-bible-complete.html

Here is also an Catholic e-course on the Virgin Mary: https://allsaintsuniversity.teachable.com/p/what-you-need-to-know-about-mary-but-were-never-taught

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"Cleanliness is next to Godliness"* and countless quotes by Shakespeare.

*It actually comes from the Jewish Talmud.

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*It actually comes from the Jewish Talmud.
Does it? The most common attributions I've come across credit it to 18th century preacher John Wesley.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2019/09/the-origins-of-cleanliness-is-next-to-godliness/

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The principle is Talmudic. John Wesley may have originated the direct phrase.

https://www.aish.com/ci/s/5-Surprising-Facts-about-Judaism-Health-and-Fitness.html

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I don't agree. I don't see an equivalence between 'cleanliness is next to godliness' and "you shall take very good care of your bodies” & “You shall walk in His ways.”

Aish.com is simply engaging in common apologetical rhetoric, appropriating credit for modern knowledge and attributing it to the religion (as for example, Josephus insisting that the Greeks borrowed from Moses, or modern Muslim apologists claiming to find modern scientific discoveries in the Quran. Or Jewish or Christian apologists pretending that the biblical prohibition against pork was intended to prevent trichinosis).

Nor can one point to the mikveh, a Jewish ritual bath, as being an example of 'cleanliness.' They were filthier than the basin of water for morning ablutions passed around by Northmen (as depicted in The 13th Warrior, (1999)). The water in a mikveh was never changed, nor the basin cleaned; it was filthy and stagnant. Satisfying ritual requirements was not the same as satisfying hygienic requirements.
https://www.ijn.com/ten-misconceptions-mikveh/

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Separation of church and state

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The inerrant word of God.

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When anyone says, "God told me…."

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The bible itself.

The 'Table of Contents' isn't part of the 'canonical' bible. References to "scripture" are notoriously undefined.

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That's a good point. Many Protestants believe in Sola Scriptura, "Bible alone", but what's supposed to be in the Bible isn't listed in the Bible. The Bible's Table of Contents comes from Church Tradition, which Sola Scriptura absolutely refutes as an authority.

Here is more on where did the Bible's Table of Contents, the Canon of Scripture, come from? https://www.thescottsmithblog.com/2018/09/the-question-protestants-cant-answer.html

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It has been changed often. Who the feck knows.

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It's fiction…
Everything in it is up for interpretation.

You asked a pretty question; I've given you the ugly answer.
Fasten Your Seatbelts….
It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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Okay but people who claim to believe in said fiction add certain things to it to reinforce their own beliefs. What are those things?

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I thought I answered that when I said that everything in it is up for interpretation.

Now excuse me. I must go back out to my apple tree and finish a private conversation with the serpent on the limb. This concerns Mr. Margo.
I must also figure out a way to gather animals, two by two/one of each sex, I believe.
I must hurry. I have read that we are in for 40 days and 40 nights of rain.
That weatherman lied! He promised clear and sunny days ahead! He Will Go To Hell For THAT!!!

You asked a pretty question; I've given you the ugly answer.
Fasten Your Seatbelts….
It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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I think I’m going straight to hell ,for all the naughty things I get up to , with the Abercrombie and Felch boys. They’re coming over to play tonight ,so I better get my ass oiled.

Good talk.

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so I better get my ass oiled.

Valvoline? Penz Oil?

Vegetable? Canola? Olive? Avacado?

What did they use in biblical times?

Is it in the Bible?

You asked a pretty question; I've given you the ugly answer.
Fasten Your Seatbelts….
It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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the principles of "natural law"

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The dates of Christ’s birth.

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"Lucifer."

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"Lucifer."
¡Wrong! Lucifer is just a Latin version of Hebrew הילל Helel which is in the original Bible. It means light bringer and is covered mainly in Isaiah 14. In English, the term mainly came from the King James Bible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer#In_the_Bible

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"Lucifer" is a Latin word which does not appear in the original languages of the Bible. I put it in quotes for a reason, because people still think "Lucifer" is an actual name in the Bible. So you're wrong - it's not in the Bible. Helel is, Lucifer isn't.

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Nowhere does it say that Jesus was a proud American.
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