Politics : The crimes of the white race
Re: The crimes of the white race
Genocide of the American Indians.
Slavery on the scale it was.
Hitler and his genocide.
Dropping two atom bombs onto innocent civilians.
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Slavery on the scale it was.
Hitler and his genocide.
Dropping two atom bombs onto innocent civilians.
"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall
Re: The crimes of the white race
Every race is capable of all of those things. With the nuclear bomb white people just happen to make it first.
Re: The crimes of the white race
Genocide of the American Indians.
You stupid stupid fucker.
Say it with me now
MONGOLS!
Slavery on the scale it was.
You stupid stupid fucker.
Say it with me now
INDIA!
Hitler and his genocide.
You stupid stupid fucker.
Say it with me now
MAO ZEDONG!
Dropping two atom bombs onto innocent civilians.
Now that ain't a half bad argument.
Of course given the fact that they were planning to arm and fight to the last man woman & child it is hard to say how many were truly noncombatants.
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Re: The crimes of the white race
Most American Indians died as a result of disease exposure, not combat. We have since uncovered mass graves of Native Americans that predate the arrival of any European settlers.
Slaves were captured and sold by African tribe leaders. Africa and the Middle East still practice it today. Every race has done it or been a victim of it at some point in history. It was Anglo countries that made the first concerted effort to put an end to the practice, but we're not allowed to mention that part since it would get in the way of your self-loathing and collective blaming
Rwanda killed 800,000 in less than 100 days. Pol Pot killed half of his population. Mao Zedong's genocide makes Hitler's look minor by comparison. These guys would make Hitler blush
Your last example isn't even an atrocity. It was perfectly justified given the type of opponent Japan was.
Slaves were captured and sold by African tribe leaders. Africa and the Middle East still practice it today. Every race has done it or been a victim of it at some point in history. It was Anglo countries that made the first concerted effort to put an end to the practice, but we're not allowed to mention that part since it would get in the way of your self-loathing and collective blaming
Rwanda killed 800,000 in less than 100 days. Pol Pot killed half of his population. Mao Zedong's genocide makes Hitler's look minor by comparison. These guys would make Hitler blush
Your last example isn't even an atrocity. It was perfectly justified given the type of opponent Japan was.
Re: The crimes of the white race
There is no justification for murdering all those innocent civilians.
Japan was on the verge of surrendering and we knew it.
We dropped the bombs murdering all those civilians to let Russia know that we meant business and to make Japan our bitch.
As for the rest of your weak reply where I have seen that bullshit before, is that to somehow say that what whites did is perfectly OK?
You need to face the music and the facts bub that our race has done plenty of horrific things and just because other races have does not make it any better for ours.
You need to read some books such as Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee instead of pulling things out of your ass and making yourself look foolish and another crackpot who is just making it all up.
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Japan was on the verge of surrendering and we knew it.
We dropped the bombs murdering all those civilians to let Russia know that we meant business and to make Japan our bitch.
As for the rest of your weak reply where I have seen that bullshit before, is that to somehow say that what whites did is perfectly OK?
You need to face the music and the facts bub that our race has done plenty of horrific things and just because other races have does not make it any better for ours.
You need to read some books such as Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee instead of pulling things out of your ass and making yourself look foolish and another crackpot who is just making it all up.
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Re: The crimes of the white race
Japan was on the verge of surrendering and we knew it
There is literally no credible evidence that Japan was near surrendering before the bombs were dropped. There is far more evidence they were going to stubbornly fight to the last soldier. If anything the bombings saved more lives than they ended in the long run.
There was no justification for murdering all those innocent civilians
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both military targets. Collateral damage isn't always avoidable, princess.
is that to somehow say that what whites did was perfectly OK?
Where did I say that? You're strawmanning.
I never said evil done by whites was okay, you simpleton. My point is that whites don't have a monopoly on evil and that if you're going to collectively shame one race then you need to collectively shame every other race as a matter of consistency. Frankly, I don't take part in that kind of reasoning because the concept of collective culpability is in itself racist. This makes you a self-loathing racist.
You need to face the music
I need to face nothing. I'm not guilty of something by virtue of having the same skin color as someone who did something bad, nor is anyone else.
Unlike you, I have no intention of spending my life apologizing for existing
Re: The crimes of the white race
There is literally no credible evidence that Japan was near surrendering before the bombs were dropped.
You literally have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Here is a heavily cited and thoroughly referenced debunking of this bullshit:
Re: The crimes of the white race
If that were the case, then it wouldn't have taken nearly a full month for Japan to surrender after being bombed. Twice. The fact they didn't surrender within hours of Hiroshima is precisely why the second bomb was dropped in the first place.
Re: The crimes of the white race
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. They were on the road to surrender the entire time and this was known at the time by a great number of leaders and military commanders in both the US and USSR, as thoroughly documented and cited in great detail by this Shaun fellow.
Re: The crimes of the white race
Which I also pointed out in my reply that you can see below.
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"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall
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I wouldn't waste your time on that guy. He's indoctrinated beyond salvation.
Check my block list because you're probably on it.
Check my block list because you're probably on it.
Re: The crimes of the white race
Here's a little something I wrote. Not narrated by me, obviously.
Re: The crimes of the white race
You are doing nothing but really reaching and grabbing at nothing at trying to find ways to somehow justify that what we did was perfectly fine and dandy when it never was.
So fucking what if African Native Blacks had others as slaves?
What they did was nowhere near the scale when we kidnapped and sold them as slaves and I doubt they made them ride in a boat crammed together that was hellish where a number died en route.
"Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both military targets. Collateral damage isn't always avoidable."
Collateral damage? Yeah, that shows that you care.
It is avoidable. Those bombs did not have to be dropped.
The War Was Won Before Hiroshima—And the Generals Who Dropped the Bomb Knew It
The top American military leaders who fought World War II, much to the surprise of many who are not aware of the record, were quite clear that the atomic bomb was unnecessary, that Japan was on the verge of surrender, and—for many—that the destruction of large numbers of civilians was immoral. Most were also conservatives, not liberals. Adm. William Leahy, Truman’s chief of staff, wrote in his 1950 memoir I Was There that “the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender.… In being the first to use it, we…adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children.”
The commanding general of the US Army Air Forces, Henry “Hap” Arnold, gave a strong indication of his views in a public statement 11 days after Hiroshima was attacked. Asked on August 17 by a New York Times reporter whether the atomic bomb caused Japan to surrender, Arnold said that “the Japanese position was hopeless even before the first atomic bomb fell, because the Japanese had lost control of their own air.”
Fleet Adm. Chester Nimitz, the commander in chief of the Pacific Fleet, stated in a public address at the Washington Monument two months after the bombings that “the atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military standpoint, in the defeat of Japan.” Adm. William “Bull” Halsey Jr., the commander of the US Third Fleet, stated publicly in 1946 that “the first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment…. It was a mistake to ever drop it…. [The scientists] had this toy, and they wanted to try it out, so they dropped it…”
Gen. Dwight Eisenhower stated in his memoirs that when notified by Secretary of War Henry Stimson of the decision to use atomic weapons, he “voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives.” He later publicly declared, “It wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing.” Even the famous hawk Maj. Gen. Curtis LeMay, the head of the Twenty-First Bomber Command, went public the month after the bombing, telling the press that “the atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.”
The record is quite clear: From the perspective of an overwhelming number of key contemporary leaders in the US military, the dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was not a matter of military necessity. American intelligence had broken the Japanese codes, knew the Japanese government was trying to negotiate surrender through Moscow, and had long advised that the expected early August Russian declaration of war, along with assurances that Japan’s emperor would be allowed to stay as a figurehead, would bring surrender long before the first step in a November US invasion could begin.
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/why-the-us-really-bombed-hiroshima/
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So fucking what if African Native Blacks had others as slaves?
What they did was nowhere near the scale when we kidnapped and sold them as slaves and I doubt they made them ride in a boat crammed together that was hellish where a number died en route.
"Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both military targets. Collateral damage isn't always avoidable."
Collateral damage? Yeah, that shows that you care.
It is avoidable. Those bombs did not have to be dropped.
The War Was Won Before Hiroshima—And the Generals Who Dropped the Bomb Knew It
The top American military leaders who fought World War II, much to the surprise of many who are not aware of the record, were quite clear that the atomic bomb was unnecessary, that Japan was on the verge of surrender, and—for many—that the destruction of large numbers of civilians was immoral. Most were also conservatives, not liberals. Adm. William Leahy, Truman’s chief of staff, wrote in his 1950 memoir I Was There that “the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender.… In being the first to use it, we…adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children.”
The commanding general of the US Army Air Forces, Henry “Hap” Arnold, gave a strong indication of his views in a public statement 11 days after Hiroshima was attacked. Asked on August 17 by a New York Times reporter whether the atomic bomb caused Japan to surrender, Arnold said that “the Japanese position was hopeless even before the first atomic bomb fell, because the Japanese had lost control of their own air.”
Fleet Adm. Chester Nimitz, the commander in chief of the Pacific Fleet, stated in a public address at the Washington Monument two months after the bombings that “the atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military standpoint, in the defeat of Japan.” Adm. William “Bull” Halsey Jr., the commander of the US Third Fleet, stated publicly in 1946 that “the first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment…. It was a mistake to ever drop it…. [The scientists] had this toy, and they wanted to try it out, so they dropped it…”
Gen. Dwight Eisenhower stated in his memoirs that when notified by Secretary of War Henry Stimson of the decision to use atomic weapons, he “voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives.” He later publicly declared, “It wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing.” Even the famous hawk Maj. Gen. Curtis LeMay, the head of the Twenty-First Bomber Command, went public the month after the bombing, telling the press that “the atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.”
The record is quite clear: From the perspective of an overwhelming number of key contemporary leaders in the US military, the dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was not a matter of military necessity. American intelligence had broken the Japanese codes, knew the Japanese government was trying to negotiate surrender through Moscow, and had long advised that the expected early August Russian declaration of war, along with assurances that Japan’s emperor would be allowed to stay as a figurehead, would bring surrender long before the first step in a November US invasion could begin.
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/why-the-us-really-bombed-hiroshima/
"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall
Re: The crimes of the white race
You are doing nothing but really reaching and grabbing at nothing at trying to find ways to somehow justify that what we did was perfectly fine and dandy when it never was
I already refuted this strawman.
So fucking what if African Native Blacks had others as slaves?
What they did was nowhere near the scale when we kidnapped and sold them as slaves and I doubt they made them ride in a boat crammed together that was hellish where a number died en route.
This isn't a competition, darling. And ultimately it's besides the point; that no race is collectively guilty and that to argue they are means you'd also have to argue collective guilt for other races as a matter of consistency.
Also, saying "So what if Africans had slaves" shows selective outrage on your part; that slavery is only bad if whites do it.
As for the rest of your rambling, Japan didn't surrender after the first bomb. Even after the second bomb, it took nearly a month for them to finally surrender. They were going to stubbornly fight to the last man and it took the bombs to get them to realize it was futile.
Re: The crimes of the white race
"Also, saying "So what if Africans had slaves" shows selective outrage on your part; that slavery is only bad if whites do it."
No, that is putting aside your justification where you are making it OK that whites had slaves just because African blacks did.
You are soooo cute pretending that you care, even though you really don't.
They were going to surrender but the American politicians, or just Truman, saw it and refused to accept it instead choosing to murder innocent civilians.
You are just refusing to accept the fact that the white race is one of, if not the, race that has done the most and worst things on this planet.
Look and see how our race from many countries has invaded and taken over so many other ones and colonized them making the innocent civilians suffer for our greed.
I mean, you don't hear about how China or any country from Africa runs around the world invading and taking over ones of different races and religions.
Sure, they have blood on their hands but nowhere near the amount that white Christian countries such as America and England have.
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No, that is putting aside your justification where you are making it OK that whites had slaves just because African blacks did.
You are soooo cute pretending that you care, even though you really don't.
They were going to surrender but the American politicians, or just Truman, saw it and refused to accept it instead choosing to murder innocent civilians.
You are just refusing to accept the fact that the white race is one of, if not the, race that has done the most and worst things on this planet.
Look and see how our race from many countries has invaded and taken over so many other ones and colonized them making the innocent civilians suffer for our greed.
I mean, you don't hear about how China or any country from Africa runs around the world invading and taking over ones of different races and religions.
Sure, they have blood on their hands but nowhere near the amount that white Christian countries such as America and England have.
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I've got that guy on ignore. You can probably see why now.
Check my block list because you're probably on it.
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Re: The crimes of the white race
Yeah, because you are nothing but a crack pot and I just make too much sense for you to handle.
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As for the rest of your weak reply where I have seen that bullshit before, is that to somehow say that what whites did is perfectly OK?
You need to face the music and the facts bub that our race has done plenty of horrific things and just because other races have does not make it any better for ours.
Norman! What did you put in my tea?
Re: The crimes of the white race
Dropping two atom bombs onto innocent civilians.
This was done due to Christianity. The majority of Americans were Christian back in the 1940s.
Japan in the 17th century persecuted and executed Christian missionaries.
Dropping the nukes was revenge for this and meant to be symbolic of God's judgement. A bright white flash and an entire city is destroyed.
Christians are ruthless.
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This is complete anti-Christian bigotry nonsense. ^
Go crawl back in your hole and stop spreading hate.
Go crawl back in your hole and stop spreading hate.
Re: The crimes of the white race
Our race has traveled to other lands to invade and take over and murdering innocent civilians in the process on such a scale unlike that of any other races.
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So, nobody has anything?
Didn't think so. I guess all the vitriol aimed at white folk is just good old fashioned racism.
How ironic.
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Didn't think so. I guess all the vitriol aimed at white folk is just good old fashioned racism.
How ironic.
Check my block list because you're probably on it.
Re: The crimes of the white race
You are just refusing to accept the fact that the white race is one of, if not the, race that has done the most and worst things on this planet.
Look and see how our race from many countries has invaded and taken over so many other ones and colonized them making the innocent civilians suffer for our greed.
I mean, you don't hear about how China or any country from Africa runs around the world invading and taking over ones of different races and religions.
Sure, they have blood on their hands but nowhere near the amount that white Christian countries such as America and England have.
"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall
Look and see how our race from many countries has invaded and taken over so many other ones and colonized them making the innocent civilians suffer for our greed.
I mean, you don't hear about how China or any country from Africa runs around the world invading and taking over ones of different races and religions.
Sure, they have blood on their hands but nowhere near the amount that white Christian countries such as America and England have.
"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall
The crimes of the white race
And why is this guy so perplexed at the question?
https://www.filmboards.com/board/p/20453022/permalink/#p20453022
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