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New CDC Study shows these vaccines don't work

They may even make it worse.

3/4ths of people testing positive for covid were fully vaccinated.

4 out of the 5 people who ended up hospitalized were vaccinated.

78% of the vaccinated people in this study showed symptoms, which is higher than the historical average of those who haven't been vaccinated.

The vaccine isn't helping. It's just giving people a false sense of security and then they go out and spread the virus even more.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

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The article which you linked to, which you obviously didn't even bother to read, says no such thing. In fact, it says, in plain English, the exact opposite:

While numerous studies have shown that the vaccines don’t work as well against the delta variant as they did against other strains, health officials say they are still highly effective, especially in protecting against severe illness and death. Roughly 97% of new hospitalizations and 99.5% of deaths in the U.S. are among unvaccinated individuals, U.S. health officials repeated this week.

The CDC also said the data has limitations. The agency noted that as population-level vaccination coverage increases, vaccinated persons are likely to represent a larger proportion of Covid cases. Additionally, asymptomatic breakthrough infections might be underrepresented because of detection bias, the agency said.

The CDC also said the report is “insufficient” to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of the authorized vaccines against Covid, including the delta variant, during this outbreak.


Further analysis from other sources concerned about how people like you and headline writers interpreted the data says this:

A statistical misunderstanding of the CDC's Provincetown study, exemplified in several news headlines appearing in multiple outlets, conflates the idea of how susceptible the vaccinated are to the delta variant. The Washington Post's alarming headline read "CDC study shows three-fourths of people infected in Massachusetts COVID-19 outbreak were vaccinated," which implies that three-fourths of all vaccinated people would be inevitably infected. In fact, the three-fourths number was only among the subset of those infected.

That misinterpretation is stoking alarm among some watchdogs.

"Please don't do this," Matthew Gertz of Media Matters for America tweeted at The Washington Post for their headline. "Provincetown has one of the highest vaccination rates in the country. As vaccination rates increase the percentage of cases that are in vaccinated people NECESSARILY increases." He pointed out that Reuters, The Boston Globe and CNBC had used similar headlines, noting that Trump supporters may use headlines like those from Reuters and The Boston Globe to argue that "they don't work, what else aren't they telling us."

Indeed, the CDC is not arguing that vaccines are ineffective, but rather than for the broader public health, we may need to consider a return to more stringent lockdown policies.


https://www.salon.com/2021/07/30/delta-variant-covid-provincetown-outbreak/

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Roughly 97% of new hospitalizations and 99.5% of deaths in the U.S. are among unvaccinated individuals, U.S. health officials repeated this week.

And their own study refutes these claims. 3/4ths of people who had covid were vaccinated and 4/5ths of people hospitalized were. These same experts also told us breakthrough infections would be rare, which they clearly aren't. They told us covid couldn't possibly be man made, now they say its possible. It should be obvious by now you can't rely on so-called experts conclusions. Use your brain and don't rely on others to do your thinking for you.

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And their own study refutes these claims.

No it doesn't. You just aren't scientifically literate enough to understand how to correctly interpret what the data is saying. However, the scientists who put the study out are educated enough to understand the data, which supports the idea that the vaccines help greatly.

It should be obvious by now you can't rely on so-called experts conclusions. Use your brain and don't rely on others to do your thinking for you.

Then why did you site a study by experts, you fucking moron?

The answer is obvious–you will listen to experts when you imagine they are saying what you already believed or want to believe, and you will ignore them when it seems they aren't.

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The study is real. The numbers are real. The vast majority of those infected and hospitalized were vaccinated. That is data. Their conclusions based on this data that vaccines prevent you from getting sick, despite it showing the opposite, is what is wrong.

However, the scientists who put the study out are educated enough to understand the data, which supports the idea that the vaccines help greatly.

These same scientists who told us breakthrough cases would be rare and that covid couldn't be man made. We now know both of those are not true. Only a fool would continue to rely on their judgment.

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These same scientists who told us breakthrough cases would be rare and that covid couldn't be man made.

The scientific community which made these claims exists only in your imagination.

The fact remains that you are deliberately ignoring any data which doesn't fit your idiotic right wing ideology about the pandemic. The vaccines are helping. Grow up and deal with it.

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You don't remember everyone saying covid couldn't have come from a lab? You guys used to make fun of Trump for saying it could have and it turned out he was right. These same so called experts were telling us the vaccine would prevent infection. They were wrong again.

https://www.filmboards.com/board/t/Proof-the-government-is-lying-about-the-vaccines-3356869/

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You don't remember everyone saying covid couldn't have come from a lab?

No. In the real world, the consensus remains that it is highly unlikely that it originated from a lab, not that this would be impossible.

These same so called experts were telling us the vaccine would prevent infection. They were wrong again.

Actually, they were right. You are utterly disconnected from objective reality.

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The government where I live have just released some data regarding the current outbreak in this area, 70% of the people who are currently hospitalised due to Covid are unvaccinated.

They are hoping this will encourage the 10% of eligible people who remain unvaccinated to come forward.

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Hilarious, the old troll bait and switch. They'll make some outrageous claim. Then they'll link an article from a respected source which they hope will trick the reader to believe they're right. But if you actually click the link and read the article, it says the opposite of what the troll claims.

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Why you spouting shit?

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lmaooo fake news

suck it.

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I wouldn't call it fake new so much as misinterpreted news, both by the OP and the stupid headline writers in the media.

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It doesn't prove they don't work. They weren't tested on these new variants, so we don't know yet how effective they are against them. We do know they are very effective against older variants.

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I have been saying this for 6 months.

The only poster who had his account banned 4 times without ever breaking any rules each of those times.

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