One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest : It's The Shining in a hospital

It's The Shining in a hospital

With jack being jack. Haha

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My thoughts exactly. Haha

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It's absolutely nothing like The Shining, and Jack Torrance and RP McMurphy have virtually nothing in common. It's a very lazy piece of analysis to say these films are similar, it completely misses the point of both and seems to rely solely on the fact that the two main characters look the same.








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mcmurphy and torrance are two very disturbed individuals who deal with disturbed people on a daily basis and both have a tendency for extreme violence.
At the very least i am convinced that it was jack's performance in cuckoo's nest that persuaded Kubrick to hire him as Mr. Torrance and certain ideas and themes that kubrick could take out of cuckoos nest based on the casting.

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I certainly wouldn't describe McMurphy as "very disturbed". He's faking mental illness to get out of a prison sentence. Sounds pretty rational to me. Nor would I say he has a "tendency for extreme violence". At worst he's a bar-brawler, Torrance tried to murder his wife and child with an axe. And he only "deals with disturbed people" because he's in an asylum, while Torrance doesn't deal with disturbed people at all (save for himself) let alone "on a daily basis".





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choking a nurse near to death and bringing a bunch of loons on a fishing trip is "very disturbed".... clearly you are a very lenient individual

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Ha, yeah I'm pretty lenient I guess but McMurphy does little wrong without extreme provocation. And I'd say most of those patients are not mentally ill. Seeing them as such seems to me to be missing out on, even purposely ignoring, some of the main points of the movie.




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hit us with your main points of the movie then

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Most of the men on the ward are not mentally ill. They have some weird quirks or personality traits, some have recognised conditions (like epilepsy) which make it difficult for them to conform to conventional society. Because of this inability to conform they are made to feel like outcasts and have been driven to commit themselves to an insane asylum.







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Yeah except without the ghosts, or the hotel or Jack trying to kill his family. Now that I think about it other than Jack Nicholson and Scatman Crothers this movie has nothing to do with The Shining.

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the scatman crothers connection was what made me start the post actually and he has a similar job as well in both movies. In any case whos to say the hospital is not haunted ?? chief was an imaginary character in mcmurphy's head and it was someone else who killed him?? other ideas i will come up with later

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Well in that case I guess it's more accurate to call The Shining "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" in a hotel.

"I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine

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exactly.... its "One flew over the Overlook Hotel"

the parallels become more obvious the more you think about it

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Meh, I would have to agree that is a bit of an oversimplification.

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Far from it.

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This is a very narrow way to analyze it…

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