Monster : I'm crying!!!!

I'm crying!!!!

At the end of the movie!!! My God.....so many emotions. I actually feel bad for this woman.

Not the first time I've seen it.....but the first time seeing it without any kids around interrupting.....lol.

I know she killed...but she was so completely messed up and all she wanted was love.

Don't go throwing sticks at me people......just stating my opinion.

Charlize was PERFECT. Ricci was great too. Did she win anything for supporting role?

I don't know......i just feel that life effed her over......

Her first kill wasn't premeditated....I'd have killed him, too.

But eventually she started killing for the cars she got.....to please Selby.

Oh I don't know.....I believe in the death penalty......I also believe that a life in prison is a fate worse than death.

Just rambling.....not crying anymore.....but still feel bad for her. Cause the ONE thing she loved......and got love BACK.....sold her out!!!

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She should have spent life in prison with therapy. We could learn a lot from her struggle. Life destroyed her. She should have never died.

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Wuornos claimed that she "needed to die," and that she would definitely have continued murdering in cold blood if she had been allowed to.


"Facts are stubborn things" - Ronald Reagan

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You watched this with kids around? WTF

You can only feel so bad for people when they are purposefully self destructive, so no tears for her, she just doesn't deserve them.

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I didn't say there were watching it with me now did I?? I said when they didn't interupt....like "hey mom....could u do this for me?" Or "hey mom....can u drive me somewhere?" Not sitting on the couch sharing popcorn while watching. No reason to WTF me. Dig?

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If your kids were old enough to be asked to be driven somewhere, you are watching this during the day with minors around. That is wretched.

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Exactly, I'm glad she is dead. She deserves it. Sub-human trash who chose to work the streets and kill people. She deserves no pity. Others have it worst but still live an honest life.

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Thank you. The sympathy that this disgusting waste of life gets just irritates the Hell out of me. There are plenty of people who have had worse lives than she had and were not killers.

David Spears was my maternal grandmother's brother. He was one of the most hen pecked and docile people I have ever met. The claim that he tried to rape her and she killed him just isn't remotely believable.

Feel sorry for the people she killed. Even if her life was hard, she was the one who made a dreadful decision to kill these people. The self defense argument was ludicrous. She just happened to be attacked by 7 men and the only way to defend herself was killing them. And lord knows that after the first or second or even the other ones, that maybe she would come to the conclusion that it might be better to get away from that life.

It was bullcrap. Anyone who feels sorry for her, well, it's just sickening.

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I agree with you. It absolutely SICKENS me how violent criminals who were abused in their youth have all this sympathy created for them. One would think that those people KNOW what it's like to be abused, and therefore they'd never inflict it on others.

Sometimes, violent offenders are given lenient sentences because of abuse suffered in their youth. When these maniacs prey on innocent people, they quite obviously show their victims no mercy. So why should offenders receive mercy when they had no mercy on their victims?

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"You can only feel so bad for people when they are purposefully self destructive, so no tears for her, she just doesn't deserve them."

I'd say that about the johns she killed.

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You mean the johns she murdered.

Why do you say that? What had they done? (bearing in mind that the "rape" was fictional. Wuornos stated this many times during her last two years in prison. All her murders were committed in ice-cold blood.)



"Facts are stubborn things" - Ronald Reagan

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Ever see the documentary 'Life And Death Of A Serial Killer'? There's a scene (genuine not a "re-enactment") where she professed to have killed them for no good reason, then when she thinks the camera has been turned off, she quietly confides to Nick Broomfield (he's the documentary's director) that she did kill in self-defense. One might wonder why she was telling the authorities otherwise, and I think it has to do with her wanting to die at that point. She probably had enough of life and sought execution as a way out. I think it's possible that some were in defense and others were not (but maybe she still thought all of them were; she had gotten paranoid).

Anyway, the main question is why I said that; in retrospect, my intent is a little vague, so I'll try to make it more clear; I want to show the double-standard in statements like the one I quoted above; they know they're engaging in an illegal activity with a great deal of risk (one that some might describe as "self-destructive"). Granted it might not be as bad as murder (unless they were abusive which I think it entirely possible) there is still that double-standard that no one thinks about for one simple reason, they're told not to. There are many more examples of this as well and I'm getting tired to it. I'd like to see people actually thinking about these things, instead of just reciting pre-approved talking points.

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I just finished this 10 minutes ago and I'm still bawling. I don't know if any movie has ever made me cry this hard. I teared up at a lot of different moments, but the ending... wow. (I'm not normally a very emotional person, by the way). I expected life in prison, which would be understandable to an extent... but she obviously had very extreme emotional trauma from her lifetime of abuse and neglect, so a psychiatric institution would've been something more proper since she could get real help to try and reverse some of the trauma. But when she said that she was going to be killed... ugh. It really hit me then. She did not deserve the death penalty. All she wanted to do was turn her life around with the first person she felt genuine love for but she couldn't escape the situation she was trapped in. She wasn't a bad person.

I was so happy to find that Charlize got an Oscar for this because her performance was incredible. I don't think I would've recognized her had I not known beforehand that she starred in it.

Definitely one of my all time favorite films.

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Christina Ricci was pretty good as usual, but I think Charlize overshadowed every single other actor in the movie.

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Liberal weak minded people. It's okay for her to kill but not be on death row? She's a prostitute who killed people you moron. She killed someone's father, brother, son. She took 7 lives, and you're saying she doesn't deserve to die? People have it worst and they made the best of it unlike Aileen.

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I'm a liberal and I think it was perfectly fitting for her to be on death row. And yes, she did deserve to die.

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We can't all be blessed with your level of simplicity.

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UR calling me weak minded? HAH! I'm a Jersey girl and would wipe my kitchen floor with UR mid western ass. Then have UR loved ones dry it clean and shiny. Weak? Nahhhh. Just felt bad for her IN THIS PORTRAYAL. AS IN MOVIE. her acting. Her emotions. Damn freak...lighten up. It's an opinion I am entitled to.
Now clean my floors.....

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I take that back and am sorry. Difference of opinions is what makes the world go round. Hope u accept my sincere apology. I mean....it's just a movie. Come to the Jersey Shore and I'll buy u a cocktail. :)

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After U clean my floors....

Tee hee

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So trashy. I'm sorry for your kids.

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Ohhh we got a badass over here!

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I think what a lot of you people fail to understand is that she used the defense of self defense of rape during her trial. When she lost and was sentenced to death, Aileen changed her story and admitted to murder. She pled guilty to murder several times and recanted her rape accusations of every victim other than Mallory.

Furthermore, even Wournos herself admitted that she deserved to die and threatened several times to kill again if given the chance.

Her exact words in a letter to the Florida supreme court:


"I'm one who seriously hates human life and would kill again,"


Maybe instead of just believing the portrayal of a movie, it would do you good to rely on facts and not have sympathy for a worthless waste who did not deserve it.

http://www.webcitation.org/5b8tAvzil

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U are 100% right. I was completely going on the movie. I'm sure the real Aileen was a piece of U know what. I was just relaying my feelings of the movie. Her acting. Her emotions. Which I bet were nothing like the real Aileens. PLUS I'm a Charlene fan. I'm sorry I started a controversial subject. Not my intent. Just stating my feelings towards the MOVIE. I mean this isn't called I MOVIE DB for nothing is it??

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You felt bad for a killer? She chose to be a prostitute, it's occupational hazard. She ended up killing for joy and you want to cry for her? Pathetic. What if someone killed your kid, would you forgive them? I highly doubt it, you would want the worst punishment handed to that person. When serial killing is excepted by society, that's when you know it's in the *beep*

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Lol. Occupational hazard. Good one

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I certainly feel sympathy for her childhood. And killing to prove killing is wrong is so ass backwards

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What about killing to stop a murderer from murdering again, especially after the murderer has stated that she will definitely continue murdering if allowed to?

Is that also ass-backward in your world?

A lot of people lived through a lot worse than Wuornos did, and didn't become murderers. There is no excuse.



"Facts are stubborn things" - Ronald Reagan

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I like this movie, watch it anytime I can catch it. no I don't feel bad for her as an adult. but whenever I hear her name I think of her childhood & having to sleep in the snow 1 night as punishment.

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In real life, Wuornos's first murder was premeditated. She stated this repeatedly.



"Facts are stubborn things" - Ronald Reagan

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Yeah the ending where theyre crying saying goodbye always gets my waterworks going

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She was really a victim and they killed her.


In a perfect world she would still be out there. Keeping them honest.


I'm saying that but I don't really mean it.


The facts are fuzzy.












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Anyone who just discredits this movie and says, "She killed therefore she was bad and deserved to die" basically did not understand one minute of the movie, is barely human and is not very intelligent. The whole point is that Aileen was so horribly abused and ignored by society, that is made her basically into a sociopath and a killer. It's not an excuse, but it is a reason, and she deserves sympathy because she was never given a chance, and that lead to the destruction of innocent lives. It's a tragedy all around. Do you really think if Aileen grew up in a normal, non-abusive middle class home she would have become a prostitute and killed men? I don't think so...this is a woman who at 13 was living in the woods. People who just condemn Aileen as a heartless killer who "chose" to kill really are not able to face the flaws in an unjust society where some people have protected lives and others like Aileen are abused and abandoned by the system. The point of the title "Monster" is that like Frankenstein's monster that was created by man and abandoned, Aileen was a product of society, abused, abandoned and left to spiral out of control until she met tragic ends. Everyone is responsible for what happened to her and the men she killed.

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The point of the title "Monster" is that like Frankenstein's monster that was created by man and abandoned


There seems to be a lot more understanding because of her gender. It's all the product of a male dominated society. Charles Manson and every other male serial killer get no such sympathy. You could say Manson was created by woman. His pitiful excuse for a mother was a right piece of work who traded him for a pint of beer.
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