Big Brother : Has Z commented on how dumb Paulie made her look?

Has Z commented on how dumb Paulie made her look?

Any comments about the Paulie situation and how he made her look to BB viewers? Or, about the degrading things he said about her?



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Re: Has Z commented on how dumb Paulie made her look?

Not that I've seen, but her mom did. She basically denied that Z ever bullied anyone, and that it was Z who was actually being bullied the most. And here's the kicker - she said how thankful they are that Z had Paulie there to always have her back. So they seem to be completely taking Paulie's side and have nothing but respect and love for him. Barf.

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Maybe I'm missing something or just can't remember but I don't think Z ever did bully anyone.....

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Not that I've seen, but her mom did. She basically denied that Z ever bullied anyone, and that it was Z who was actually being bullied the most.
Holy Crap Batman ~ that article you posted is pretty OBSCURE, not to mention almost all behind the scenes, never fully aired on an episode, and minimally involving Zak.


And here's the kicker - she said how thankful they are that Z had Paulie there to always have her back. So they seem to be completely taking Paulie's side and have nothing but respect and love for him. Barf.
OK well this... maybe's Z's entire family is insane, and seeing that paulie is a frickin psychotic, sociopath, no wonder they all love him.

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Way to twist her mother's words, lmao.

First of all, Zakiyah never bullied anyone. She talked *beep* about Bridgette because they did not like each other. Bridgette also called Zakyiah a prostitute, an idiot, a dog, and spent Zakiyah's birthday upstairs with Frank talking about how useless of a person she was. She also laughed with Frank about getting someone to punch her in the face from North Carolina. That's not bullying. That's a mutual dislike for each other. You can't bully someone you barely speak to. If Zakiyah bullied Bridgette, then Paul bullied her as well, along with bullying Nicole, Michelle, and Natalie since he talked more *beep* in the house than anyone. The fact that people have the nerve to call the Bridgette situation bullying after seeing what BB15 Candice went through is disgusting. THAT'S bullying.

Her mother said she was thankful Paulie had her back in the JURY house, not the BB house. This was regarding Zakyiah herself being shunned by all the girls once she gave Paulie another chance. No one would talk to her but him. Her mother was angry the entire summer about Paulie's treatment of Zakiyah and was even deleting comments off of Zakiyah's official fansite involving him positively. Her sister even called him an abuser, so don't make it sound like they're all delusional or something. He apologized and they moved forward and are giving him a chance to show a different side of himself. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

OP, as far as Zakiyah goes, she said in a few interviews that he admitted everything he said and apologized for it and also apologized in front of everyone at the roundtable for not using the veto and said if he knew James wasn't going to cancel the right votes, he would have saved her. They didn't air it. Paulie also claims everything he said about her was strategy to stay in the game (which is a lie, but...). I'm not sure she knows how bad his sh*t talking really was or how he gave details about their sex life. Paulie knows because he blocked me on twitter for mentioning it.

Re: Has Z commented on how dumb Paulie made her look?

What's even funnier is that they seem to be in a relationship outside of the house.

Maybe you could chalk up some of the arguments they had in the house and jury as normal things that happen in relationships...yes, even early on in relationships.

Unfortunately, you had the girls instigating things and NOBODY giving Paulie's the benefit of the doubt on anything...especially when he trusted the house to keep Z safe. He got ripped for that even though he really was upset at the rest of the house for voting her out.

Honestly, for all the people who HATED Paulie's guts for perceiving the way he treated Z, they have to at least admit they may have overreacted a bit...right?

Unfortunately, that doesn't fit the narrative for viewers who ripped Paulie all season, so they'll just keep quiet.

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The way I see it...I still believe Paulie is mentally disturbed and has anger issues but I do think the environment of the house got to him and he lost his mind a little bit. Zaulie had a decent relationship until her last two weeks in the house, that's something that people tend to forget. He was actually like her little puppy dog all summer, complimenting her, cooking for her, following her around. Then they started getting into petty arguments and his behavior and the way he talked about her changed. Then the awful Paris fight happened. As much as that angered and upset me at the time, I do look back now and acknowledge that for whatever stupid delusional reason, he was acting that way because he thought he caught her lying to him and that she was fake crying and messing with his head, not because he didn't care about her. That goes for a lot of his behavior. He never said he didn't like her or want her, it was always about wanting her gone because she was a distraction, possibly coming after him (lol), or because she was purposely starting fights about their relationship to mess up his game (lol).

I bashed Paulie for months, but I'm starting to think well maybe he isn't THAT bad outside of the game. There's certain stuff that's inexcusable and not game related, but there's other stuff that would never come up in real life that happened with him and Zakiyah, which is the main reason I disliked him.

Outside of the house, he's been treating her really well. I'll admit I'm surprised, and it's not even about the material things he spoiled her with like shoes and Beyonce tickets. I've been a fan of Zakiyah all summer and I can the difference in how she acts now vs how she acted in the house. She's got her spark back that she had when she first came to BB. She seems happy, she's glowing. They seem to be doing really well. And what people don't seem to get is that just because a dynamic was once toxic doesn't mean it always remains as such. If he realizes he *beep* up, and treats her better henceforth then what's the harm? The are very few people in this world not worth loving, or not worth giving a second chance to, and if Zakiyah is that person that sees the good in Paulie, if outside of the BB they have a healthy relationship, what's the the big deal?

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Being immature and mentally unstable are two different things, honey baby.

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Did I say they were the same thing?

Re: Has Z commented on how dumb Paulie made her look?

Yes, sweet lips.

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Re: Has Z commented on how dumb Paulie made her look?

Really where?

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When you mistakenly called Paulie mentally disturbed instead of immature, angel face.

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That wasn't a mistake, he's clearly ill. His behavior wasn't normal and it definitely wasn't immaturity. Zakiyah is immature. Paulie is sick. Hopefully he's getting the help he needs.

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I disagree, baby girl.

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I don't agree at all. He degraded her on national tv and that's not something you can take back. She has no self-respect, no sense of self-worth, and her mother is just as stupid as she is. I see where Z learned all this from. She has nobody at home to teach her how she should be treated in a relationship or by a man in general. Paulie is the epitome of a ****boy He's misogynistic, arrogant, self-centered, treats women like s***, an attention w****, etc. What would any woman who actually has a brain see in him? He's not even that good looking and judging from those leaked pics, he doesn't have much going on down there either. Zakiyah is desperate, pathetic, and incredibly insecure. I felt sorry for her before because she used to be in an abusive relationship, but you can't keep feeling sorry for grown adults who don't want to help themselves. You say Z sees good in him, but the girl is LOST. She needs therapy. Even Evel Dick has tweeted about this, that's when you know it's *beep* up. But I guess if he buys her Louboutins, it shows how much he really cares about her, right? Everything is ok then? I swear, people have such low standards...

You can tell Paulie is using her too. He barely has any fans of his own at this point, but he knows Z has fans and uses them all to his advantage constantly vying for their attention. He's just an all around pig. They both have become fame w**** since the show ended, and Paulie acts like he and Z are victims. They both can go *beep* themselves tbh.

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Also, you act as if the girls in jury were the ones who treated her like crap. Bull. Day, who ACTUALLY cared about Z and told her to be careful with Paulie, tweeted about the situation. She said Z not only forgave him and ran back to him in the JH, but also stopped spending time with the other girls. SHE isolated herself with him. I believe Da'Vonne over the delusional girl who's been thirsting after Paulie and being submissive to him all summer any day. Z has no backbone, so of course she chose the pig over a real friend, who btw also told her to cover her a** up when she was lying on top on Paulie during the halfway party. That was embarrassing and cringeworthy. She was all over him, with her butt in full view from the camera while he laid there like a dead fish who wanted nothing to do with her. He wouldn't even tell her to cover herself. This is the man she chooses over her girlfriends? I'd stop talking to her too. ***k girls like her.

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Da'vonne is a liar. I'm not gonna believe the delusional, attention seeking rants from an almost 30 year old "woman" who gets her sh*ts and giggles from having one sided twitter beef with someone who doesn't even bother responding to her nonsense. The idea that Zakiyah would drop her friends just because she took Paulie back is stupid. It wouldn't even be necessary, she didn't do that in the BB house, and I KNOW Zakiyah is too kind for that and that it's not within her personality. I also know Da'vonne is a rude bitch and a sh*t stirrer and tends to make passive aggressive, underhanded comments. It's quite obvious, even from her trashy behavior post show, who has the instigator, drama loving personality and who's the chill one who chooses to rise above it all. There's two sides to the story and one of them makes sense, the other doesn't. While Da'vonne is making domestic abuse jokes and publicly insulting someone who's never once acknowledged her existence in a negative way post show, Zakiyah is tweeting positivity and personally messaging her fans thanking them for support. And I'm supposed to believe ZAKIYAH is the root of the issue? I don't.

On top of all that, Michelle apologized to Zakiyah for how she was treated in jury and has faved tweets saying "I'm glad you apologized to Zakiyah and that you guys made up" and things of that nature. If Zakiyah was being a bitch to the girls why would Michelle apologize to HER? Why is Zakiyah friends with Michelle and on good terms with Natalie and Bridgette? Why is her only issue with Da'vonne? Use common sense.

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I do agree with this, Q T pi

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Wow, you sound angry.


You can tell Paulie is using her too. He barely has any fans of his own at this point, but he knows Z has fans and uses them all to his advantage constantly vying for their attention.

Interesting considering they started dating in jury and he had no idea how many fans she had or that people even cared about their relationship while they were in that house, so how does that work out? Especially when their relationship brings more hate on them than they would have if they weren't together?

It makes no kind of sense whatsoever to travel, spend your money, and your time with and on someone for the non existent publicity that comes with dating a player that was mostly disliked by casuals. Their relationship is why they're hated. They can't post a photo on social media or have a normal couple experience without people saying "um does she know all the sh*t you talked about her in the house?". Distancing himself from Zakyiah would actually bring them both less hate, so where's the logic in that? And you think as an actual human being and real person, he'd rather fake a relationship then go on about his life and find someone he actually is really interested in? That's ridiculous. You think it makes more sense that he's using her for fame (that they don't get) than that he actually likes her? Be for real.


But I guess if he buys her Louboutins, it shows how much he really cares about her, right? Everything is ok then? I swear, people have such low standards...

It's obviously not just about shoes or any of the material things. I literally said that in my previous post. He apologized, has literally said multiple times he messed up, and has treated her better since, what more can a person do? The proof is in his actions and if that's good enough for Zakiyah, why does that piss you off so much?

You say what he did is something he can't take back. Did I miss the live feed where he beat her ass? At worst, he talked some sh*t behind her back and was rude to her the night they fought in Paris due to misconceptions about who she really was. He already said he didn't realize how much she had his back. Everything else was game related and stuff they'll never have to deal with in real life. There are no vetoes in the real world.

I don't really care for this relationship at all but I don't appreciate this narrative that Zakyiah is doing something horrible by taking him back. As if YOU and literally everyone else who's ever had any real dating experiences have never given someone a second chance who probably didn't deserve one. We've all just been lucky enough to not have our sh*t play out in front of America.

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I agree that Paul beats everyone in bullying this season. LOL Paulie blocked everyone from twitter and even Zakiyah left Twitter because he got shyt on for a Black Lives Matter comment on Periscope.


But as far as her being bullied in the jury house, it's been said that it's false. There were arguments about her forgiving Paulie, but no one just stopped talking to her. Day even posted on Twitter that near the end they had a karaoke evening and she kept trying to get Z in to participate. Meech loves Z and Natalie also tried to hang out with her. If she decided to seclude herself to be with paulie, thats on her. The other girls didn't have to like him or put up with him.

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Re: Has Z commented on how dumb Paulie made her look?

Did you ever consider that perhaps Dayvonne asked Zakiyah to choose either her or him, and he didn't put that pressure on her? Day was very jealous that Zakiyahh trusted Paulie more than her in the house.
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