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Cops Stand Around Doing Nothing as Shooter Massacres Children

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The shooter engaged with law enforcement before entering the school, and still managed to get inside. Afterward, cops stood around for nearly an hour whilst gunshots rang out and children screamed for their lives.

Thank goodness they were threatening to tase the parents, though, otherwise people might accuse them of total inaction.



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Fuck the police.

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Fuck anyone who supports guns because they got these children killed.

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Is this from the recent one? Someone should've told them the shooter was black.

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Yes, this is from Uvalde. Those poor parents just wanted their children to be saved.

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Have they given a justification? It can't be likened to a hostage situation where you attempt to find a diplomatic resolution. The dude is in there indiscriminately shooting children, not making demands. Unreal.

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They didn't have a key and had to wait for a staff member to retrieve one for them.

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That is retarded. Break a window. Drive a vehicle into the doorway. Shoot out the locks. Force entry somehow! That they sat on their hands is just beyond. I'd have forced entry even if I had to go thru the cops to do it.

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Agreed. It's hardly an excuse. The cowards kitted to the teeth and decked in body armour didn't want to put themselves at risk.

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They can't like break a window anywhere else and climb in through that?

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Ah look. There is warren echoing my sentiments. A day late a dollar short as usual.

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Thank goodness they were threatening to tase the parents, though, otherwise people might accuse them of total inaction.

UGHHHHHH those poor parents. I would lose my fucking mind knowing my defenseless kid was in there.

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I'm betting they wouldn't be standing idly by if it were their children inside the school.

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To make it worse, they probably would have shot the parents if they tried to rush in, and no action would be brought on them.

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Columbine High School, when they evacuated the students from the building LE made everyone keep their hands on their heads "for their own safety."



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If I am ever in a situation like that I would never do that because I am not a criminal.
And not that I want to prove it.

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It's because they didn't know if any of them might be involved in the shooting and be coming out with a weapon.

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Warren, that's the smartest thing I've heard you say.
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That isn't that bad. Seems a little cold given the circumstances but there's at least a reason.

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This was long after the known shooters were terminated.
Also, LE kept their weapons aimed at those children in the picture.

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I can feign outrage if you want. The other two shooters were students there. It's a safety precaution, since they have no way of knowing if there were any others lying in wait. I'm not saying it's a great look, but I get it.

Standing in front of an elementary school for an hour while an active shooter runs rampant inside is a different thing.

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Well, like Robb Elementary, LE stood out front of Columbine for an extended amount of time.
Unfortunately camera phones were not commonly available in 1999 as they are now.

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That's enough of a recurring theme it seems to be SOP for these dumbasses. Despicable.

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Notice I unwittingly said other two shooters? I'm now instinctively assuming one of these kids was poised to strike. I should be a cop.

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It looks like this is an area the cops set up to keep the parents etc away from the school and those cops jobs are to keep them safe.
Those screams and crying is not the children, is it?
It's parents freaking out worried about their child?

I don't see cops standing around doing nothing unless those are also the first responders to the shooting.

I don't doubt the claim of them waiting and doing nothing.
I doubt this video is showing those same cops.

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The cops themselves admit they didn't disarm the shooter for a full hour.

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the cops admitted to waiting. do you think they are telling lies?

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No.

I am saying that I doubt the cops in the video were the ones standing around waiting to go in.
They looked like they were there to keep the parents from getting too close to the school so that none of them would get hurt or in the way, which is what they should be doing.

It looks like the title of the vid. might be misleading.

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Cops entered the school. The shooter barricaded himself in a classroom full of students and did not come out. The officers fled the school when the gunman fired at them (after failing to respond to attempts to negotiate – no shit?) and did not reenter for nearly an hour.

They let those kids die because they were too chickenshit to kill the gunman.

They know damn well they screwed up, hence why they terminated the press conference without answering when asked about their lack of action between 11:45 and 12:45 (or so).

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Is there anything that shows the timeline of events?

I am getting all sorts of stories here.
So if the scum murderer barricaded himself in the classroom after a police encounter then why were they standing around waiting?
Rumor has it they were waiting for someone with a key to open a door?
That doesn't make sense if they already were exchanging fire with the murderer.
Who would have locked that door or how did it become locked?

Here is what I have.
They went inside and exchanged shots.
Then went back outside and couldn't go back in as they waited an hour for someone with a key to show up and unlock a door.
Then went back inside.

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Where did this claim they had a direct engagement with the shooter even originate? Is that just some Twitter nonsense floating around?

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They claimed to be unable to get into the classroom. That was the door they needed to open.

Timeline:

The Texas director of public safety, Steve McCraw, said during a press conference a school security district officer “encountered” 18-year-old Salvador Ramos after hearing reports of the crashed vehicle, and did not exchange gunfire, though the state later confirmed to NBC the officer was armed.

Ramos then entered the school, and the school officer followed him inside, where “rounds were exchanged,” McGraw said.

Ramos also fired shots from inside the school toward arriving Uvalde police officers outside of the school, causing injuries to some of the officers, according to Texas Department of Public Safety spokesperson Travis Considine.


Ramos entered a classroom afterwards, locked the door and barricaded himself inside, killing 19 students in the classroom and two teachers, and injuring 17 others, before a tactical police unit eventually entered the room and killed Ramos.

When asked during a press conference Wednesday how much time passed between the gunman arriving at the school and a tactical team shooting him, McCraw said he did not want to give “a particular timeline,” but estimated “forty minutes, an hour.”

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Thank you.
That is helpful in giving me a better understanding.

When I saw, "locked door," I only thought it meant an outside door to get into the school.
I did not think classroom because I do not think or never noticed if the classroom doors when I was in school had locks.

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Sad that that's something kids have to worry about now, no?

Even in high school we only had a handful of lockdown drills.

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Yeah, that is my thoughts as well.

The drills change with the times.

In the 50's they had "Duck and cover" drills in case of the Russkies dropping the big bombs on them.
Which I think was more of a sense of propaganda/false sense of security since the whole building would have been torn down to toothpicks and everyone inside would be ash.

When I was in school we had fire drills.
Hear the alarm and leave in an orderly fashion and wait around outside for a bit.
Now that I think of it, if there was a fire blocking an exit, do you really think everyone would stay calm and leave that orderly?
And I dunno how a fire would start or how long a fire would last in a brick building where there was no wood to be seen anywhere.

I think now kids do have shooting safety drills?
I know they make and sell child size bulletproof backpacks.
Yeah, it is a sad sign of changing times.

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Here's another excerpt with regards to the timeline:




More than an hour passed between when a shooter entered Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday and when law enforcement finally entered, confronted, and killed the 18-year-old suspect.

But when members of law enforcement were pointedly asked during a press conference Thursday why it took more than 60 agonizing minutes — during which the shooter killed 19 children and 2 adults — before armed officers went in to stop the gunfire, officials turned and walked away.

"What were you doing between 11:44 and 12:44?" one reporter asked Victor Escalon, regional director for the Texas Department of Public Safety.

"Did you follow best practices?" the reporter asked. "Why don't you clear all of this up now?"

"I have taken all your questions into consideration," Escalon told reporters. "We will circle back and answer all of your questions."

Escalon and other law enforcement officials standing beside him then ended the press conference suddenly and walked away.

The tense moment comes as questions have mounted about how law enforcement responded to one of the deadliest school shootings ever. Video has surfaced of parents arriving at the school on Tuesday just moments after the shooting, begging officers to rush in, and angrily asking why so many armed officers were waiting outside the campus. Some parents frantically tried to get past police lines to save their children.

Outside Robb Elementary on Thursday, law enforcement officials held a press conference to supposedly clear up misinformation and provide answers to a community reeling from the massacre. But as questions arose on police tactics, officials failed to provide clarity.

"My goal today is on this conference to give you a snapshot where we're at today," Escalon said as he began his remarks. "We want to make sure we have that information."

According to Escalon, the shooter is believed to have shot his grandmother in the face before fleeing in a pickup truck Tuesday morning. The grandmother survived and was able to call 911.

Then at around 11:28 a.m., the shooter crashed at Robb Elementary. He got out of the truck through the passenger's side door and was seen carrying a long gun and a bag, which was later determined to be filled with ammunition.

He shot toward two witnesses across the street at a funeral home before walking into one of the buildings, making entry to the school at about 11:40 a.m., Escalon said.

Despite previous accounts provided by law enforcement, Escalon said the shooter was not confronted by a police officer on the campus.

About four minutes later, local police including the Uvalde Police Department arrived on the scene.

"They hear gunfire, they take rounds, they get back, take cover, and during that time, they approach where the suspect is at," he said.

During that time, the shooter made his way through the hallways of one of the buildings and walked into a classroom that, according to Escalon, had its doors open.

"The initial officers, they received gunfire," Escalon said. "They received gunfire. They don't make entry initially because of the gunfire they receive, but we have officers calling for additional resources — everybody in that area."

The requested resources included negotiators, body armor, and a tactical team to the school. Escalon said officers also proceeded to try to evacuate students and teachers. But despite the large law enforcement presence surging on the school, officers then waited more than an hour for a tactical team from Border Patrol to arrive before confronting the shooter.

Officials will be conducting a review of the incident, including looking at whether officers could have arrived sooner to the school. Rep. Joaquin Castro called for that review to be handled by the FBI to clear up the "conflicting accounts" of local authorities.

"You got to understand, it's a small town," Escalon told reporters on Thursday.

But Escalon declined to answer questions as to whether law enforcement followed best practices for active shooter situations, which include attempting to confront the gunman immediately in order to reduce the number of injured and casualties.

"Law enforcement’s purpose is to stop the active shooter as soon as possible," a Department of Homeland Security pamphlet reads, as one example. "Officers will proceed directly to the area in which the last shots were heard."

Law enforcement agencies across the country have developed policies and procedures in active-shooter scenarios and, in most instances, allows for even lone officers to confront perpetrators if they see an opportunity. Others require a team to be assembled before advancing, but most of them consist of small teams of four to five officers, according to a report from the nonprofit Police Executive Research Forum.

Those teams are often directly instructed not to attend to any injured victims, but to seek out and neutralize the shooter as soon as possible.

Since the Columbine school shooting of 1999, many police departments have scrapped the policy of waiting for SWAT officers before making entry in active shooter situations, since doing so could increase the number of victims, and critically delay medical care that can be provided to possible survivors.

Video on social media from Tuesday shows parents anxiously waiting outside the school during the same hour that police waited for a tactical team to arrive, angrily asking why police were not rushing in, with some even trying to get into the school.

Escalon said he heard "rumors" of parents confronting police outside the school, but said he could not confirm reports, despite numerous videos online depicting the confrontations.

According to the Wall Street Journal, one parent was put in handcuffs after urging police to go in.

In one video reviewed by BuzzFeed News, parents urge police to go in while an officer pushes them back. When one parent asks why police aren't trying to save their kids, the officer responds: "Because I'm here dealing with you."


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"According to the Wall Street Journal, one parent was put in handcuffs after urging police to go in.

In one video reviewed by BuzzFeed News, parents urge police to go in while an officer pushes them back. When one parent asks why police aren't trying to save their kids, the officer responds: "'Because I'm here dealing with you.'"


What a bunch of fucking useless pricks.

"Because I'm here dealing with you?" Seriously??? Their baby is trapped inside a school with a fucking murderer while you guys sit on your ass letting children die.

I hope guilt haunts them all for the rest of their miserable lives.

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"Officers will proceed directly to the area in which the last shots were heard."

Yes get your sorry asses in there whether you are "receiving shots" or not, you fucking pussies. Not sit around with your hands up your ass waiting for the border patrol to show up and show you how it's done.

They should have public beheadings for these cops.

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I just read another outline of it on CNN which now makes me also upset and seeing what bullshit it was for those idiots to just sit down out there drinking coffee and eating donuts.

"Um… Guys? Maybe we should go in now?"

"I don't really feel like going in right now. Maybe in a few minutes. Perhaps by that time he will have run out of bullets."

"Yeah, let's give him time to do that. Besides, I want another doughnut anyway and this coffee's getting cold."

What really gets to me is that it took Border Patrol Agents, where this is not in their normal job description, to get the job done instead of the regular police force who were already there.

The cops are obviously embarrassed about this and are doing all they can to somehow spin it while avoiding questions which you can see in this video at the link.

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Videos posted by libs are always leaving out inconvenient details.

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head they waited 40 minutes before deciding to go in even though shit was going down. parents were begging them. shitstains all of them.

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Defunk the police!

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I blame liberals. They've made it so that cops hesitate to do anything to a minority for fear of being accused of racism and brutality.

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Except for the fact that a literal Border Patrol agent was the one to end the shooting and is being hailed a hero.

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Libs haven't gone after border patrol agents yet. It's still yet to be seen if liberals will demand punishment against that border patrol agent.
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