Schindler's List : Can you think of a better title?

Can you think of a better title?

"Schindler's List" is a puny title for this movie. What would be a better one?

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"Revenge of the List: Qui Gon Jinn Awakens"

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Why is it puny?

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The list of the title doesn't happen until late in the movie, until then there's other lists including the one for arriving Jews that's typed at the beginning; there's several death lists of Jews put on trains, so for those who don't already know Schindler's story, which list is The List? The movie seems bigger than the title, so can you think of an epic title? Even if you don't agree that the title is puny, it does spoil the buildup to the scene where Stern proclaims the completed list as an "absolute good" and the essence of life itself. The book title is "Schindler's Ark", which isn't any better than the film title.

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Howabout 'Close Encounters of the Gas-Chamber Kind'? or 'Oscar Schindler & the Factory of Shells', or simply 'Jews'? Give the title more bite...

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Howabout 'Close Encounters of the Gas-Chamber Kind'?
This is awesomely offensive.










Bravo.



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Thanks.

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It suddenly occurred to me the other day that perhaps Close Encounters of a Charred Kind would be better, at least metronomically ...

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Close Encounters of the Third Reich?

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Of course, brilliant!!

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A blue print for palestine


Love it.

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The list of the title doesn't happen until late in the movie, until then there's other lists including the one for arriving Jews that's typed at the beginning; there's several death lists of Jews put on trains, so for those who don't already know Schindler's story, which list is The List? The movie seems bigger than the title, so can you think of an epic title? Even if you don't agree that the title is puny, it does spoil the buildup to the scene where Stern proclaims the completed list as an "absolute good" and the essence of life itself.


The crux and basic story of the film is, amidst systemic mass murder of Jews, Schindler coming to trying to save his Jewish workers. The contrasts with earlier lists are intentional and while the title does make a clear contrast between death/murder around it and preserving life that I think works.

What the title suggests about the story is so basic the audience probably should go in knowing it and I don't see what would be more epic or why that would be better (for a film based on a true story direct is probably best).

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I thought of a better title, and it seems obvious.

I googled my alternative title, but couldn't find that anyone ever suggested it.

Hint: While the alternative title below would work for the film, it wouldn't be a good one for Keneally's book.

A better title for the movie might be: The Girl in the Red Coat

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I think there's a reason why no-one else has suggested it; that title would suggest that it's all about her &/or her death, which it obviously isn't; she has little to do with the main story apart from being a symbol for all the Jews being murdered. That's not what the film/book is about, however.

Surely if it's about anything it's about the people on this list, the list that Schindler composes which takes them away from Auschwitz & to his own factory? I can't think of a better title, nor what else the film is about - it sums up the story perfectly. Schindler's Ark is a good title too, as it obviously references the biblical tale where just a few animals were rescued from the all-consuming deluge, but as is quoted in the film, 'whoever saves one saves the world entire' & for Noah's animals this meant they would be the re-starting point for their species & the millions that would follow. The list, then, is a metaphor for the ark.

That the film is epic in production & deals with the 'epic' slaughter of millions, at root it's a humble tale of one man helping others in need.

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The List is the how but not the why. I posted the question because something about the title was nagging me, I had a subconscious feeling there was a better one. The movie is more about her than you think. Schindler intended to take his trunk full of money back to Germany, but two events in particular changed him and motivated him to spend all his money buying people. After each event Neeson's face is shown in close-up. The first appearance of the girl in red is 35% to the end of the film including credits. The second and last appearance is 70% to the end, so the two appearances divide the movie into thirds:

First third - Profiteer

Middle third - transition

Last third - Savior

With the alternate title, the 2nd appearance would be devastating to the audience like it was to Schindler. Think about the very end, when someone places two red roses on Schindler's grave:

Who puts roses on the grave? (hint: it's not Spielberg)
Why roses and not stones?
Why two roses?
Why red roses?

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Why would whomever it was who placed the roses have known about his seeing the girl in the red coat or what effect she had on him? There might have been loads of red coats in those scenes, but we just saw the one Schindler was focusing on as the rest were in black & white. I think the red coat is irrelevant; it was simply what a beautiful & innocent little girl was wearing.

I've no idea if Schindler was a christian, but in christianity a red rose can be the symbol for a martyr. This seems more likely than a reference to one dead Jewish girl among millions.

I can see why it's called Schindler's List, but I think I'd have felt a bit bemused if it was called The Girl in the Red Coat...it would have been like calling ET 'The Telephone', or Close Encounters 'Devil's Tower'...there are things of greater importance or significance than both those films' ingredients, memorable though they were.

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The FAQ reveals who puts two red roses on Schindler's grave.

My better title is often found embedded in what people write:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108052/board/nest/258421601?d=259905094#259905094

So many harrowing scenes and I cannot honestly say which is saddest. The girl in the red coat does leave an indelible imprint on the memory long after watching the film which is a huge testimony to the direction. What I would say is this. Despite all the horror depicted in this film I try to focus on what Schindler managed to achieve. And far from being sad I was elated by the final scenes showing survivors placing stones on his grave. Moved to tears? Of course. But only because of the show of love and respect by them to the architect of their survival. What a fitting tribute.

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That feels a bit like trying to be overly artistic and a little too direct, almost like yelling, that she was the key to Schindler changing from profiteer to humanitarian (the film does indicate she was but not so much as to rule out other interpretations and factors and the film's focus is more on his work and the contrast between it and the Nazis than why he changed).

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I like it. The Girl in the Red Coat could be anyone...

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Schindler's Ark

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The film was based on the novel of the same name.



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No, that was Schindler's Ark.

Why the hell is you avatar of that nasty, self-obsessed little qunt?

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Not a fan of the Special One?

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He's a good manager, I guess, but has he ever managed a side without star players in it?

He's a nasty guy though, insulting people, including wives of other managers or players, oh, & things like this:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01976/jose-mourinho2_1976664c.jpg

That said, they're looking a much better side...

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I hadn't seen that picture. Were there repercussions? And the guy with the tash seems completely unphased!


How much has he spent already at Man U? I was hoping that Leicester winning the EPL might have reined in spending a bit.

Manager to board: "We need players. I need lots more money"

Board in reply: "No you don't. Look at Ranieri at Leicester"



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Schindler's Pissed!!

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"Schindler's List" is a puny title for this movie. What would be a better one?


I disagree. I don't think you could come up with a title that was enormous enough to capture the gravity of the movie.

And I think if you tried, it would diminish it.

The meaning of the list becomes explained through the course of the movie, as do many titles in movies.

And while the title itself, doesn't explain anything about the movie, unless you already knew who Schindler was, how the movie is marketed takes care of making those connections.

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I would have preferred to watch certain movies without knowing their titles beforehand or being exposed to their marketing; for some examples, I think "The Birds", "Cast Away" and "Schindler's List" would have been better experiences.

I regret using the word puny to describe the title, which is serviceable considering how the movie is marketed.

What do you think of the title I came up with?

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How about:

"No Country for Old Lampshades"

"Muh Sixty Gorillion!"

"Only Stupid Goyim Could Believe This $hit"

"But it Was Real in My Mind, Goy"

"A Fist Full of Shekels"

"Ain't No Business Like Shoah Business"

"The Day I Was Turned into Soap, and a Mattress"

"Dude, Where's My Shower?"

"Zyklon-B: The Reich Strikes Back"

LOL.

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You Left The Oven On!

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