Religion, Faith, and Spirituality : IMDB2 RFS Mod/s

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The excerpt that you've posted probably represents the opinions of most atheists. The point is that I would not delete anything because it was offensive, or because it was absurd, or because I didn't like the person who posted it. I have no animosity towards any poster here, and I also don't really have strong favourites, not embroiled in any personality conflicts, and I'm not part of any clique so that people could feel comfortable asking me for a personal favour by deleting such and such a thread. THAT is what makes me objective for the purposes of moderating a message board.

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Based on:
www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/reply/265951098

As for whomever runs the new board, it would best be someone who does not believe in censorship and who does not have a clique mentality. Apart from that, it doesn't really matter whether they are uber-liberal or uber-conservative, as long as they are anti-censorship.


I meant objective in his treatment of members. He stated somewhere that he wouldn't delete any God hates gays threads. Since he said he is gay before, that's fairly objective, no?
The mods should be anti censorship and he's the least likely of anyone I can think of who would delete any of your posts.

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He stated somewhere that he wouldn't delete any God hates gays threads. Since he said he is gay before, that's fairly objective, no?


Not really. Those kind of threads merely provide more ammo for the propaganda campaign to make theists look as dastardly as possible, but I think you knew that already. I would delete them, along with the God-hates-atheists threads.






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Most atheists, myself included, don't view theists as being 'dastardly'. And I for one, do not have any animosity towards any poster here, atheist or theist.

And the fact that you would delete those threads exemplifies why you shouldn't be in control of determining the boundaries of discourse.

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Why would an atheist want to talk about religion anyway?







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Because it's an interesting subject and, whether we like it or not, religion affects the lives of everyone.

Anecdotally, my father is very interested in world religions and the history of religion, and he likes to vacation in places of historical religious significance and spend time looking in the old churches of Italy, etc (as do I) He's not a Dawkinesque anti-theist of the type that I am. There are plenty of reasons why an atheist would want to talk about religion, and yes, 'point and laff' is one of those reasons.

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and yes, 'point and laff' is one of those reasons.


It's a reason that has no place on the new board. I don't make fun of atheists. I don't tell atheists they are stupid for not believing. And if someone ever did, I would favor deletion.





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It's a reason that has no place on the new board. I don't make fun of atheists. I don't tell atheists they are stupid for not believing. And if someone ever did, I would favor deletion.


You don't make fun of atheists, because you can't make fun of lack of religious belief. You know that if you do attempt it, you're going to get it back fivefold. You seem to lack the emotional coping mechanisms for dealing with having your beliefs ridiculed, so you are not inclined to do anything to make those beliefs vulnerable to attack, such as striking the first blow.

I've seen examples of theists making fun of atheism all across the internet, and it is profoundly cringeworthy.

Moreover, making fun of something can be productive for opening up debate and presenting the issues to people in such a way as to be more palatable. That's why news and politics so often gets fused with comedy on TV for programmes such as Last Week Tonight with John Oliver and The Daily Show.

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There's nothing to debate. If you don't want to believe, you don't have to believe. You simply need to stop harassing people who do believe, and take care of your own business.





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I haven't been harassing anybody. And for as long as religion continues to inform public policy and the laws which all of us must abide, then there most certainly is something to debate. When religion is completely out of politics and is no longer codified into legislation anywhere in the world, then I would be happy to take a more lax approach with it.

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I haven't been harassing anybody. And for as long as religion continues to inform public policy and the laws which all of us must abide, then there most certainly is something to debate. When religion is completely out of politics and is no longer codified into legislation anywhere in the world, then I would be happy to take a more lax approach with it.




You're a liar.







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I haven't been harassing anybody.


For Erjen if someone says something bigoted, then gets called a bigot, that's harassment.

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Thank you kindly, I appreciate it.

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Seriously? 1 theist, two agnostics and a hardliner anti-theist is "balanced"? The one theist, Allaby, barely qualifies.
If you get your way, I am out of there and will encourage any theist especially anyone with a family, to leave pronto.

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Just because someone is a 'hard-liner anti-theist', that doesn't mean that they want to shut down the debate from the theist side. I've never shown any desire to do so, and have stated many times that I would not want to post here if not for the theists.

The role of moderator isn't to say which range of opinions are permissible, so I wouldn't have a problem with some of the more reasonable theists here being moderators, because there are some I would trust not to delete posts just because it 'triggered' them. You would not be one of the people that I would trust, it hardly needs to be said.

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that doesn't mean that they want to shut down the debate from the theist side.


What is there to debate about? Boxers or briefs?

If you don't want to believe in a higher power, then don't. See how easy that was? Simply don't believe, and don't harass those who do believe. Nothing to debate.





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He really wants that moderator job doesn't he?


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He most certainly does. Then watch it become a joke board like this one is.







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Oh yes it would be a disaster.


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If this board is a "joke" then why do you post here? I would think the goal of any new IMDb forum would be to replicate this place as much as possible. If I do end up being a mod a the new place, my policy will be to "moderate" as little as possible. I think the freedom for anyone to say anything is what makes this place interesting and different compared to most online forums. If you (and Ada, apparently) object to mods who essentially want to keep this place like it is, then I don't understand why you're here to begin with.

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I've not been harassing anyone, and I am sorry if I struck the wrong chord.

But the fact that you think that there's nothing to debate about seems to indicate that you feel that religious belief ought to be ring-fenced in a way that political beliefs (for example) would not be. Just because someone feels strongly about something, it doesn't mean that others who disagree should not rigorously inspect those beliefs for intellectual weakness or dishonesty.

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As Harry Truman would say, this is 100% bullsh!t. 👆










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You are projecting your own hatreds on to me.
I absolutely don't want to be a moderator, but if I was one I would not delete atheist posts.
Trolling, doxxing, death threats and sexual insults such as DrunkProg's favourite "c!nt" etc deserve to be deleted.


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^I will spend days laughing if somebody ever posts a video on youtube that ends with this bitch's head on the end of a pike. Now let's see impotent little ErJen try to defend this psychotic waste of carbon.
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^I will spend days laughing if somebody ever posts a video on youtube that ends with this bitch's head on the end of a pike. Now let's see impotent little ErJen try to defend this psychotic waste of carbon.


What an angry little man you are.






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Permanent virgin say what?
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You're still my hero, mostly. Aw, shucks.


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Hopefully the IMDB2 RFS board moderator/s will only help keep the board free from posts that are clear and direct violations of ProBoards' ToS. Whether they're theists or atheists or anything in between shouldn't matter as people on all sides should be able to recognize child porn, troll flooders, doxxing, and etc. when they see it. The purpose of the moderators should be more in line with housekeeping than silencing those who oppose their own personal views. As much as I'd like to just let the site run itself, the past few days have proven that to be impossible.

The Religion and Politics boards will undoubtedly be the most difficult, so let's just see how it goes and take it one day at a time. I'm sure most of you here have been together for quite some time and I suspect not everyone will be happy with whomever moderates the RFS community. If an electoral process doesn't pan out, I have plenty of people waiting in the wings to help moderate the site on a global level, but I'd really like to try this first. Maybe it's a bad idea, or maybe not. Only time will tell. So if you have one foot out the door already, I would kindly ask that you reconsider and give this a chance as I am. :)

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No problem. It looks good so far, but as you said, time will tell. The peanut gallery will undoubtedly try to have their way on both of those boards as they did here, and all I'm saying is that I see no reason for me or anyone else to go through that twice. Some of us made repeated appeals for the IMDb administrators to do their jobs and keep the troublemakers out, and they didn't want to do it. I'm hoping that IMDB2 will be better.






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No problem. It looks good so far, but as you said, time will tell. The peanut gallery will undoubtedly try to have their way on both of those boards as they did here, and all I'm saying is that I see no reason for me or anyone else to go through that twice. Some of us made repeated appeals for the IMDb administrators to do their jobs and keep the troublemakers out, and they didn't want to do it. I'm hoping that IMDB2 will be better.


Yeah, they didn't do their job... you and Ada are still here.

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I will continue to give it a chance but the past 18 months here have been hell for me, and the "parody accounts" are very much not a good sign.

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Melanie, I must say that I took the speedy disappearance of that thread as a good sign. I expected to come home from work yesterday and still see it there, with more snipes from the ungodly, and Vegas Devil advising me to "lighten up" and all that. Instead, it was gone. And now Big AL is whining about it. I take that as a good sign too.






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I don't know how speedy it actually was, but I got to it as soon as I could, and I do appreciate the reports. I don't read every single thread and post, so I count on the members to notify me of things that might need removal. But I do like to sleep sometimes, have an occasional shower, and replenish my pantry at the supermarket. ;) I know the porno flood stayed up for several hours, though. Things like that are the reason the site needs more moderators than just me, especially if the population keeps growing. More people means more trolls and troublemakers, so we should all look out for each other despite our differences.

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Thanks, IMDb_v2. It was speedy enough. The same thing or worse could be posted here and they would do nothing about it.









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Yes the speed of removal is a very good sign indeed!
By contrast "parody account no 4" here tonight will still be here when the board closes down.
:(

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Don't cry Ada. I know you're blameless in all this and it's everyone else who are appalling human beings and lying bigots, not you. I've got your back!

There is more than one female lying bigot in NZ!

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Why report me Ada? I'm one of the few people here who doesn't think you're a lying bigot and that you display all the intelligence and humility of a runny dog turd. We should be friends!

There is more than one female lying bigot in NZ!

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Why report me Ada? I'm one of the few people here who doesn't think you're a lying bigot and that you display all the intelligence and humility of a runny dog turd. We should be friends!


I think she likes you. Whoever she puts that lovely 'green' message towards, she likes them.

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Unfortunately......yes, it will. Now that the execution date is set, why should they bother enforcing rules that they never bothered enforcing earlier?






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Now that the execution date is set, why should they bother enforcing rules that they never bothered enforcing earlier?

A very good point - although you'd think they'd realise that the biased moderation is one reason for the stinking reputation the IMDB boards have.

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I will continue to give it a chance but the past 18 months here have been hell for me,


You should be very angry at whoever forces you to post here.

Who willingly does something for hours a day for 1.5 years that they find to be 'Hell'?


What else do you do for fun? Go to the dentist and get root canals?

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It is not enough that I succeed. Everyone else must fail.

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i wanted you to see first hand the history's here. on a personal level, i have some long time inspirations that come and go here. for i have been scribbling on imdb-mainly this board-since 1994.


that being said, you can see there are also some long-standing feuds here as well. and some of these feuds make the hatfields and mccoys come off as kissing cousins. those along with the trolls have made this board a minefield at times.




in all honesty, i could never be a moderator here or any board for that matter. my time as a poet is far too valuable to afford spanking the naughty here. now whips and chains...














Stephen

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Ok...good bye, Ada. I am happy you are leaving. Other theists such as Steve, londonbird, Gadreel and pantheists like Kiera will stay and we will be happy.
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Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.

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any theist especially anyone with a family, to leave pronto.


The OP says the moderation powers are limited and have no access to your internet protocal address.
What exactly makes you think any of those four are going to go on a mass doxxing spree?

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What exactly makes you think any of those four are going to go on a mass doxxing spree?

I never said that they were going to do so. However, only one of them is trustworthy, the other three have shown how unpleasant and biased they can be.

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unpleasant and biased


Yeah, I can see how that would upset somebody like you.

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For a quid, you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing.


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