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This past Thursday in cities throughout the US, ICE agents quietly began rounding up immigrants and undocumented. When asked, both the Trump Administration and the agencies responsible denied they were doing this, likely in an effort to forestall public reaction to it.

Sinister.

Undocumented migrants arrested; Kelly denies 'rounding up'
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I couldn't be bothered to research this but the media are heavily bias so I am not just going to take their word on it. I am not saying they are wrong btw..

formerly known as Saoradh

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Media Matters in particular, since they're the ones who hired internet trolls for the Hillary Campaign. One of the things they did is post pornography in Bernie Sanders Facebook groups to get them shut down. OP pretends to like Bernie Sanders, but OP is really a corporate whore, as Bernie Sanders himself said, "Open borders is a right-wing Koch brothers plan".

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hey're the ones who hired internet trolls for the Hillary Campaign

The madness of King Mutha continues unabated. Ah, if only he had teeth, he might actually be able to produce the illusion of teeth marks.




The Dumpster gives a whole new meaning to "red" states.

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will the white european students who are over-staying their visas be included in the round up?





Stephen

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Not good.

Oh Lord, you gave them eyes but they cannot see

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Deporting illegal immigrants is not good?

'And imdb does nothing about it, because they're gay too'

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Deporting illegal immigrants is not good?

What exactly do you have against people who want to start a better life outside whatever hell they came from? could of been you, or me, or people we know and love.

People.

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They are illegal. Plain and simple. This refugee crisis has been hijacked by economic migrants who have no right to be here.

Do you have no understanding of how borders and countries work?

'And imdb does nothing about it, because they're gay too'

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Are they picking on latinos? I hope not.
Meanwhile, the benevolent, revolutionary government that hilary supporters drool over with admiration and envy is at it again:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/08/world/venezuela-passports-investigation/


http://tinyurl.com/qgjudf5

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Are they picking on latinos?

Yes.

I hope not.

Is that sarcasm, or do you genuinely hope not?

the benevolent, revolutionary government that hilary supporters drool over with admiration and envy

WTF?

I think you've spent too much time with Faux News and right wing commentators.

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Is that sarcasm, or do you genuinely hope not?


Not at all. I'm latin american in case you didn't know. I don't want my people to be harmed. True, there may be some highcaliber criminals, rapists, killers among the lower strata, but I very much doubt that any of them (even the worst ones) have an agenda of destroying the u.s. via organized networks like muslims do.


I think you've spent too much time with Faux News and right wing commentators.



No. I don't watch Faux News. The report I posted is factual. Just like in Europe, Australia, Canada and the US, the vermin are here too. As if Latin America didn't have enough problems as it is, now we have to add sharia law to the mixfan-fócking-tastic.

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The report I posted is factual.

This is factual?

the benevolent, revolutionary government that hilary supporters drool over with admiration and envy

If you don't watch Faux News, you must be drinking deeply from its Latin American equivalent.

Do you do Infowars?

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No. The only likeable quality of Alex Jones is that he pisses off those Young Turk abortions. The only thing. As far as taking him seriously, I dont. The only full clips of him I think I;ve ever watched are the ones about bohemian grove and some interview he did with the guy from smashing pumpkinsyears ago.



If you don't watch Faux News, you must be drinking deeply from its Latin American equivalent.



Again, no. What I am aware of, is that throughout the first world, there are people who look kindly upon the governments set up by Chavez and Castro. In some instances they even have close ties. True, some of their supporters are just useful idiots, but the higher ups know exactly what is up:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/06/podemos-spain-leaders-deny-funding-link-venezuela-chavez-government

What are your thoughts on this? I can tell you from personal experience that certain student organization in Latin American colleges ARE funded by venezuela and cuba, but that;s another thing. Have no idea where these questions of yours are heading.

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Have no idea where these questions of yours are heading.

I think you do, which is why you keep evading the questions and trying to shift the subject.

What are your thoughts on this?

I think that I'm not particularly interested, but I note in passing that the article you linked states that attempts to connect Podemos to receipt of funds from Iran and Venezuela were thrown out due to lack of evidence. This would gainsay what you claim to know from "personal experience."

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I think you do, which is why you keep evading the questions and trying to shift the subject.


I don't see which questions you asked that I'm avoiding.
I am against some of Trump's policies but those who oppose any and all types of border control and more stern immigration laws obviously aren't looking at what's happening around the world, particularly in Europe.
Some refugees have been accepted into Latin America, with mixed results at best. In Uruguay, for instance, they've only taken a handful of families and already there are reports of gender violence and child abuse, something that is happening on a greater scale in places that take in more refugees. Furthermore, despite the fact that those I mentioned in Uruguay are clothed, fed and taken care of by the government, they have expressed their dissatisfaction with this, making ever-increasing demands. In the end, getting to safety* isn't what they want. What they really desire is to be incorporated into the welfare programs of first-world nations and complete accommodation for life.



*"They aren't dangerous, they're in danger"

#yeahright

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Prime Minister of Hungary


We shall let in true refugees German, Dutch, French and Italians, terrified politicians and journalists who here in Hungary want to find the Europe they have lost in their homelands.




they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

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Wow, what a complete fascist, nazi pos he is, prioritizing the interests of those who put him in power, his country and his culture like that. Homophobic and sexist too. Didn't he read Merkel's memo? Oh well, no Cologne-style New Year's Eve celebrations for Budapest. At least not for now.
Cold-hearted mofo.
The only ones getting a good laugh out of this self-imposed "refugee crisis" plaguing Europe are the leaders of the petrobillionaire states of the middle east. Not only have they shown how majority-muslim coutries behave towards their own "brothers and sisters" (not to mention the religious minorities living there), but Western "activists" are more than happy to never bring them up for accountability or ask for their assistance, all the while trying to force their own Western governments into taking in as many refugees as possible, regardless of creed, religion, faith, degree of fanaticism or terrorist ties. How very noble and enlightened of them.



http://tinyurl.com/qgjudf5

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Clinton supporters drool with envy and admiration over Venezuela? Seemed to only be the Trumpanzees who can't shut up about the place, implying that Clinton wanted similar policies.

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

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Seemed to only be the Trumpanzees who can't shut up about the place, implying that Clinton wanted similar policies.




No, if you have any contact at all with people from L.A. (Latin America) those of us who live close to the hell-hole are also worried about how these ideologies are finding sympathizers everywhere, particularly among sheltered first-world sjw morons.



I wish this had subtitles so you could see how truly vomitive this is:


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PD, do you think that people should be allowed to enter the US and remain in it illegally?

And if you don't, are you concerned that the roundup may be expanded to include citizens and legal residents? I'm asking because when I posted about that possibility in the past, I was mocked and called a tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist.






"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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PD, do you think that people should be allowed to enter the US and remain in it illegally?

It depends on what they're doing here, or have done here. But no, I'm not in favor of rounding up brown-skinned people and deporting them in order to satisfy a nativist, xenophobic, racist agenda.

And if you don't, are you concerned that the roundup may be expanded to include citizens and legal residents? I'm asking because when I posted about that possibility in the past, I was mocked and called a tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist.

You were mocked - and rightly so - for claiming that lawn jockey, Kenyan-born, covert Muslim, NWO shill Obama was going to round up white conservatives and put them in FEMA camps.

Don't you have some more threads with YouTube videos about fake Jews/real Aryans to post?

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You were mocked - and rightly so - for claiming that lawn jockey, Kenyan-born, covert Muslim, NWO shill Obama was going to round up white conservatives and put them in FEMA camps.


I never said anything about white conservatives being rounded up.



Don't you have some more threads with YouTube videos about fake Jews/real Aryans to post?


If that's your way of telling me you don't want to discuss it, you can be more direct if you like. Frankly, I'm a little surprised that you answered me at all. You could have held back and let the peanut gallery do it for you, since all of you agree on everything.

By the way, that's Jeff Corey in the "OBIT" episode of Outer Limits, right?





"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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I never said anything about white conservatives being rounded up.

You didn't have to, since it's always been implicitly understood as part-and-parcel of that breed of conspiracy theory. Race-based anxiety about what Obama might do has always been primarily a white occupation.

Frankly, I'm a little surprised that you answered me at all. You could have held back and let the peanut gallery do it for you, since all of you agree on everything.

I generally answer you when you reply to me, but that's a bit on the rare side.

Who's supposed to be "all of you"?

Names, please.

By the way, that's Jeff Corey in the "OBIT" episode of Outer Limits, right?

Yes.

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You didn't have to, since it's always been implicitly understood as part-and-parcel of that breed of conspiracy theory. Race-based anxiety about what Obama might do has always been primarily a white occupation.


No, that won't work. I didn't specify white, and I didn't imply white. I said the religious, 2nd Amendment supporters, and Constitutionalists. I never said anything about whites. Spreading propaganda on the Web is Cine's specialty, and he's good at it, and maybe it's my fault for expecting better from you, but I forget sometimes. After all, you're the same one who called Ambassador Alan Keyes "Uncle Ruckus," but if he were a liberal promoting the welfare state you wouldn't be calling him that.




Who's supposed to be "all of you"?


Names, please.


Cash, EEH, Eddyhops, JayusDeeus, Old Sam Vimes, et al.





"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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No, that won't work. I didn't specify white, and I didn't imply white. I said the religious, 2nd Amendment supporters, and Constitutionalists. I never said anything about whites.

Uh-huh, sure. You're trying to play the same kinds of games you did back when you were pretending the term "lawn jockey" could mean either black or white. It's disingenuous.

After all, you're the same one who called Ambassador Alan Keyes "Uncle Ruckus," but if he were a liberal promoting the welfare state you wouldn't be calling him that.

And well I wouldn't, because "Uncle Ruckus" doesn't mean that.

Do you even know who the character is?

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Uh-huh, sure. You're trying to play the same kinds of games you did back when you were pretending the term "lawn jockey" could mean either black or white. It's disingenuous.


And who did I say he was a lawn jockey for?



Only a far-right nutjob


Stop stereotyping.




"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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And who did I say he was a lawn jockey for?

I don't recall. What does that matter to the issue of the epithet "lawn jockey"? It's still racist.

Stop stereotyping.

Stop playing to the stereotype by using silly right-wing expressions like "welfare state."

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I don't recall. What does that matter to the issue of the epithet "lawn jockey"? It's still racist.


How is it racist when I said he was the lawn jockey for the white-controlled globalist New World Order?






"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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How is it racist when I said he was the lawn jockey for the white-controlled globalist New World Order?



Perhaps this will acquaint you with some of the more nuanced issues surrounding the term, and why calling Obama a lawn jockey in any context is offensively racist. (Personally, I think you're perfectly aware of the issues, and simply enjoy saying it.
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No, it's you who doesn't understand, because you don't want to understand.






"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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If that's your way of telling me you don't want to discuss it, you can be more direct if you like. Frankly, I'm a little surprised that you answered me at all.

He doesn't do 'direct'. He can't.

All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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He seems to have bailed out on this thread.

Undoubtedly, groups of white supremacist clowns exist, but our old friend PD would have us believe that it's all a plot to round up people because they have brown skin and deport them. It's so silly. He has the potential to do better than that, but apparently he doesn't want to. He wants to make it all about race.






"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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He wants to make it all about race.

His multi-coloured walls of crap notwithstanding, he's not a deep thinker. He needs to see it that way.


All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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He seems to have bailed out on this thread.

No, I haven't "bailed out on this thread"; I lived a few hours of my life away from the internet. And soon I'll turn in for the night, when I'll be gone until some point tomorrow.

He wants to make it all about race.

That's because it is about race, and always has been.

Trumps Executive Order Builds On History of Racist Immigration Policies
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That's because it is about race, and always has been.


With you it is. With me it isn't. If white blond blue-eyed Aryans come into the country illegally to commit crimes, I want them rounded up and deported.







"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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With you it is. With me it isn't.

Of course, but that's because you think white lawn jockeys are a sufficient thing that the expression "lawn jockey" is devoid of any possible race-baiting meaning.

If white blond blue-eyed Aryans come into the country illegally to commit crimes, I want them rounded up and deported.

Even in saying that, you imply that you think brown-skinned people "come into the country illegally to commit crimes."

When Mexico sends its people, theyre not sending their best. Theyre not sending you. Theyre not sending you. Theyre sending people that have lots of problems and theyre bringing those problems with us. Theyre bringing drugs, theyre bringing crime, theyre rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. - Donald Trump, presidential announcement speech, June 16, 2015.

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Of course, but that's because you think white lawn jockeys are a sufficient thing that the expression "lawn jockey" is devoid of any possible race-baiting meaning.


And who did I say Obama was the lawn jockey for?

Here, this is for you:

http://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2015/12/19/1450554500719-obama_lawn_jockey__3.jpg

And I'd advise you not to hold your breath waiting for an apology.






"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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And who did I say Obama was the lawn jockey for?

Here, this is for you:

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I disagree. Obama is a privileged white Rh- elitist who happened to have a black man for a biological father, and he parlayed it very well. I've got to give him that much.





"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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Obama is white? If he'd lived in early 1960s Alabama, he could have used the white drinking fountain?

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

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If he'd lived in early 1960s Alabama, he could have used the white drinking fountain?


But he didn't live in early 1960's Alabama.

Lately I've been giving some thought as to why he didn't run for the US Senate using the name Barry Soetoro. What do you think, Edward? Was that name too "Saturday Night Fever," and not African enough?







"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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But he didn't live in early 1960's Alabama

Deflection to avoid answering the question.

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

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We're not dealing in hypotheticals, young Edward.








"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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I am. You claimed Obama was white, yet you and I both know which side of segregated society he would have been on and for that matter, what racial demographic he's in today.

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

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Yeah, and I also claimed that Obama thrived in a different environment than early-60's Alabama. No "colored" water fountains or anything.

Really, Eddie, you should have known that was a loser when you tossed it out there.







"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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All irrelevant to your claim that Obama is "white".

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

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He is white. His blood type is AB-. He's a white lawn jockey for the white NWO and a joke who is pretending the be the first elected black POTUS.

On the positive side, he's a very charismatic speaker, and he isn't Hillary. Other than that, I can't think of much good to say about him. He's the worst POTUS since Lyndon Johnson.





"I hear no voice. The dead cannot speak."

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He is white. His blood type is AB-. He's a white lawn jockey for the white NWO and a joke who is pretending the be the first elected black POTUS.

Classic ErJen.

"Whether homosexuality causes less harm (than slavery) is debatable" - Hada

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He doesn't do 'direct'. He can't.

And the board's biggest liar/hypocrite comments on me indirectly by passive-aggressively addressing her comments to someone else.

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