Falling Down : Homeless man asking for money

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Personally, I think most homeless are alcoholics/addicts who have lost everything to their addictions. If they tell you they just want bus fare or something to eat, 99% of the time they're lying. They just want to buy a bottle of something nasty, which is what got them in their situation in the first place. You are not helping them if you give them money, only enabling.

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Well you can always blame it on the lawyers, can't you? Just another way to avoid responsibility for your own actions.

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Most of them are lazy, useless pieces of trash who have never worked a day in their lives.

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I was in a coffee shop with some friends and a man gave us cards stating he's deaf and mute and needs help. One guy gave him a quarter. The "deaf amd mute" man smiled, nodded, and walked away. Someone yelled "I got a dollar!" and the man turned around and started walking to us. My friend yelled "I thought you were deaf, lyin' c0ck sucker!" The "deaf" man looked embarrassed and walked away. We were laughing our asses off!

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In general I don't approve of beggars and panhandlers but it is very obvious that most the people in this thread have never been, shall we say, down on their luck. While I've never been living in a gutter with no prospects….I suspect I've been closer than most.

It's wrong to harass and mock those you perceive as less fortunate than you or as lower on the social ladder. That's what grade school bullies do. Have some dignity.

And yes, it's likely 9 times out of 10 that guy you give change to is going to buy booze or drugs….but maybe he's going to buy the meal that keeps him alive, or maybe its going to be what puts him over the edge to get his life back on track. You usually can't know for sure.

Is your misplaced since of moral outrage and your delusional idea of rightousness really a good reason to possibly allow a man to die of hunger, or exposure? Get some perspective. That 50ish cents in your pocket that, if your like most people, you will put in some jar and forget about, or just plain lose, is going to do your fellow man on the street a lot more good. Even if it does just buy him a drink.

On the flip side, all you people with stories about 'at first i wasn't gonna give them anything but they kept harassing me so I did'….grow a spine for Christs' sake. Cowards. Your word is all you really have and you're saying you can be forced to go back on it in a matter of seconds.

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Mapatrie,

Your observations are breathtakingly naive. Don't ever give directly to a panhandler. All statistics support the fact that panhandlers will use the money for something other than food and shelter. In fact, we don't have the abject poverty in the U.S. that you find in some other "third world" countries. Our worst cases of poverty does not come close to the level found in other countries. If you feel compelled to help the homeless, especially in the U.S. and other western countries, you can give to credible charities, like the Salvation Army, that directly deal with people in those situations. Or, better yet, you can put your money where your mouth is and become a Salvation Army soldier and get out there on the front lines.

I do agree, however, that the stories found on this thread of those who have encountered panhandlers are sophomoric, but most are expressing the frustration they feel toward panhandlers who want to take something for nothing. Most of us work hard and we resent those who try to sucker us out of our money only to spend it on booze and drugs. In addition, a large chunk of our taxes are spent on social programs to help the "homeless", so you may be seeing a growing resentment among those that produce and those that want to leach by standing on a street corner instead of working for a living. Let me be clear, I don't mind helping those that work, and need extra assistance through the myriad of social programs we have in the states, but I really resent panhandlers.

Let me address another one of your points. Before you dismiss me as being someone who has never fallen on hard times, that would be an incorrect assumption. My husband and I have been through some very tough financial problems. However, we relied on ourselves, our families, and our church to pull us through. We didn't stand by an overpass and beg for money. To this day, we have to pinch pennies, but we make it work.

"This is not good for my rage."

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Grade school bullies pick on kids for being more intelligent than them, or having glasses, or being a different ethnicity.

Attacking some useless piece of trash because they refuse to get a job and just leech off of society is not even a remotely similar situation. If someone makes a stupid decision, you're free to attack them for it, because it was their choice - not simply how they were born.

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Did you made the choice to be an @$$ hole, or were you born that way?

'Cause I've got a tire iron ready to go if you need help.

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I usually remember a stand up comedian I once saw whenever I am asked for money, he said something along the lines of "I'm not gonna give this bum money, he's probably just going to spend it on Booze or Drugs, then I remembered that's what I was going to spend it on so I gave him a dollar".

Seriously though, if they're only asking for 50c or close to that, what's the harm? yeah it all adds up in the end for the bum but for you it's just 50c, yes they're asking for a hand out but hey that has to be pretty hard work, I did door2door sales for a day and quit. Try asking lots of people for money on the street everyday and compare that to your current job and decide which you would rather do.

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It's hard work? Are you serious? They are asking for money without doing anything. What I live by are called "principles". That is why I don't give money directly to panhandlers. No, 50 cents is not a lot of money, but if you've seen South Park, you know what happens when you give panhandlers "change". It's an absurd exaggeration, but if anyone has been to Austin, Texas lately, you know what I mean.



"This is not good for my rage."

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I get approached by people asking for money on a semi-regular basis and generally say no. But have often wondered what sort of reaction I would get if I said no and offered to buy food instead (that is, if they asked for money to buy lunch).

Well this happened last Friday. A middle-aged woman approached me during lunchtime, said she was homeless and wanted a bit of money for lunch so I asked her if she would like me to buy her a sandwich, half expectng her to tell me to 'fvck off and just give me some cash'. Anyway she was quite agreeable so I bought her a sandwich and a bottle of coke, for which she was really grateful. I'd much rather do that and know she was getting fed than give it to someone to support a drug habit.


When I said I wanted to be a comedian, they all laughed at me. Well, they're not laughing now!

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Good for you! I had a similar experience with a woman claiming to be pregnant and hungry so I offered to take her in the McD's right behind us and buy her a big mac & fries. She was also appreciative and agreeable.

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Here in Dublin (in Ireland for those who don't know!), their is homeless people every where, especially in the inner city, where I work. Most of them are junkies that constantly bother you for money for a hostel. I just ignore them.

However, only the other day, I walked pasted a guy holding a cardboard sign saying: "Why lie? I want a drink!" I laughed! I gave the guy 60 for his honesty!

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"However, only the other day, I walked pasted a guy holding a cardboard sign saying: "Why lie? I want a drink!" I laughed! I gave the guy 60 for his honesty!"

Reminds me of the guy that used to "set up shop" in the heart of the business district in downtown Vancouver. His signs were along the lines of "Spare Change For Pot And Booze" or "Sick of Working. Retirement Funds Needed". Even funnier he actually got many a laugh and quite a bit of money.

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I've done what planetmutty did, or the equivalent, many times.

I am happy to help out someone in need with a bit of food or a bus fare… but I pay the bus driver or buy the food. Far, FAR more 'down and outs' will turn this down, because they were really lying and just wanted drugs or booze.

Folks who just hold out their hands for "spare change" but don't want REAL help really annoy me. That's what I think annoys MOST people in this thread… these "bums" who just don't want a job or are addicts trying to get their fixes.

I'm from Australia, and we certainly have that problem in our cities here. Where I work, we get people crying gutter-level poor and practically demanding government assistance and discounts, etc. then they get in their shiny new cars with their mobile phones and a bottle of wine and drive off. I've worked in soup kitchens where almost the same thing as another poster here joked about happened: folks came in wearing expensive suits, chatting on their mobiles, just wanting a free dinner that was being offered those in GENUINE need!

I still remember a trip to San Fran as a kid where there were 'professional' bums on every corner at night.

I've got no problem with helping out those who have made a bad choice sometime. Like the Korean store owner in Falling Down, there's no reason to be a jerk and NOT just lose a few cents or a few minutes of your time to help someone, as you'd like someone to help YOU if you were honestly caught short of a bus fare or change for a phone call.

But bums who are just plain bums, whether mentally ill, addicts or just lazy, don't "deserve" a few handout, and it's the sense of entitlement… "You've got more than me… gimme!" that I think really irks a lot of folks and drives a lot of the stories on this thread.

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My doorstep is homeless central.

I live on a busy city street. By "doorstep" I mean the apartment building's doorstep, which is right on the sidewalk. It's quite a convenient busy location and easy to sit on.

Some ask for money, some just keep to themselves. Pretty much all of them apologize if they realize they're blocking someone going in or coming out of the building. Some I give money to - espcially a really sweet elderly black lady who calls me "gorgeous" with a cheeky smile.

Some of them are drunks, some of them have mental or physical handicaps, (there was one guy who was a double amputee in a wheelchair) or some are just down on their luck. They are pretty much all very polite and step out of the way when I'm walking into the building.

The bad panhandlers are more mobile and aggressive. They sometimes wander the bus stops hassling suits. They hang at parks and other public places and tell you bullcrap stories. They FOLLOW you. They're just like the homeless guy in this movie. I don't lie to them that I have no money, I don't pretend to dig through my pockets looking for a stray quarter, and I don't take the easy way out by giving them a dollar or whatever. I just say "no". *beep* them. They are mostly crack addicts anyway. I don't seem to get crack addicts at my door… I don't think crack addicts are able to stay in one place for very long anyway.

The ones on my doorstep have been no problem really. They are welcome there as far as I'm concerned. They haven't done wrong by me or anyone else in the building.

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ye people quite often approach me asking for change, or stories about needing money to get home….

i usually lie and say i have no money, however this one time an elderly man approached me with an elaborate story about how his car broke down and needed some money to get home.

i kept asking him questions and he kept making up stories, until i eventually said
"Ok ill walk with you to your car"

and then he flipped and began insulting me as i walked away…

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I hope you all get such an ego boost out of chastising some poor homeless people, you must feel great about yourselves. It really exposes how miserable your lives must be even with the luxuaries you have that they don't that you need to belittle them and that makes you feel justified and righteous. I can't even begin to wrap my mind around that sick, demented mentality.

Do you think they made the choice to live under a box and goe begging people for scraps of food or pennies because it's a lifestyle choice? do you think they can make a living doing that? You seem to by thinking that giving them anything just encourages them to keep doing what they're doing.

I have an income but I'm not well off at all and can barely afford any luxuaries, I get by and pretty much the bare essentials but anytime I've got some silver coins in my wallet I'm happy to give it to someone that can put it much better use than I can and will make a difference to them. 20c, 50c a dollar, it doesn't mean alot to me but it could by this poor person something to eat for the day.

You're truly heartless bastards and I hope one day that you're down on your luck and in need of help and you get the same treatment you dish out. Sad, sorry sons of bitches.

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I hope you all get such an ego boost out of chastising some poor homeless people, you must feel great about yourselves.


Have you ever noticed that almost every derelict beggar these days claims to be a disabled veteran? I'd be amazed if one in a hundred of them were genuine.

So yes, a low-life who goes around begging for money under false pretenses ("disabled vet," like the clown who accosts D-fens in the park scene) deserves to be chastised and ridiculed. Or perhaps something a bit harsher.

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The subtext was pretty obvious. I volunteer with homeless people and none of them are like this. Very few "aggressively panhandle" either. The subtext to this scene was that the homeless are undeserving liars who screwed up their own lives and are now asking the middle-class to bail them out. Guess who caused homelessness in the first place. Not to mention that William was out of a job, had no family and few resources. It would not take him very long before he was in a similar position.

I blame Schumacher's ridiculous conservative politics.

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If we spent money on homeless people how we spend money on war…

Ok some do not want help.

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*beep* so you remember exactly what you told him word for word?

you're more pathetic than the ad-libbing bum

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I usually give whatever spare change I have to homeless people, I just don't care and generally feel bad for them, regardless of how they ended up there. However, I do agree that homeless people lie about what they intend to do with the money and that kind of bothers me. I remember I was in Chicago and we were coming out of Subway kind of late night. The guy was asking for some change so he could get himself a Sub and a drink. I honestly had no change, but I had half of my sandwich wrapped up and a bag of chips unopened. I was pretty full and offered him what I had. He was pretty much like "Man I don't want that crap, I don't want your leftovers, I want a real sandwich." I explained that I hadn't taken a bite of the half and it was a full 6-inch. He just kept saying "forget it" and walked off.

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The funniest lines in the film:

(Recall that it takes place in 1992/3, and the homeless man about 30 years old)

Bum: "That's a hell of a way to treat a vet, man!"
D-fens: "You're an animal doctor?"
Bum: "No, a vet man, I was in 'Nam!"
D-fens: "What were you, a drummer boy? You must have been ten years old!"

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Sometimes even when they do get money it's not good enough. For instance, my husband came to my office to visit me one day and he gave a guy who was out on the street in front of my office building who said he was hungry $5 so he could get something to eat. Then the guy complained that it wasn't enough money and said that he wanted to get something to drink with his lunch, my husband was like "hey you got $5, be grateful that you got that"! I mean c'mon, someone is nice enough to give you money out of the goodness of their heart and all you can do is bitch and moan; pathetic. My husband has not given anyone money since then; he got turned off by the whole situation!

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I said to someone recently asking me for money "please ask someone else, because I'm an a-hole Good luck!"
But I felt strange afterwards. I didn't really want to say it.

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I was in San Diego and there was a homeless man sitting next a 7-11 I stopped at, he looked dirty and tired. I sat in my car for awhile so I could eat something before a long drive back home.

I watched the homeless guy and he never once asked anybody for money, he just sat there and looked very sad. He noticed me looking at him and got up and went behind a dumpster where I couldn't see him.

I got out of my car and went over to him and asked "Have you had anything to eat?" He said "Yes, I'm just waiting for the bus so I can go home" I knew that wasn't true and I said "I want to give you something" and I gave him $20 and said "God Bless", as I was walking away he yelled "Thank you, God Bless You!" Something about him, I knew he really needed it.

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Sesame Street should watch this film and take notes. Nobody is hungry in this country! If there is than a big welfare check at the first of the month. If these bums are starving then how come they have food on them or already eating food. Tell them to find a job and they go furious. I was 14 when I got my first job and I wanted a job, but now 22 and haven't had a pay raise or a Christmas bonus in 5 years.


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I don't give bums anything. I just keep walking and tell them to get a job. Half the time these people are faking it and actually already have a job. They pan-handle to get extra money for alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, gambling and other things that aren't good for them. By begging for money, they don't use their money, so the wife or girlfriend they live with don't catch on. Still a lot of times these people aren't homeless at all. If you want to help them, donate money to homeless shelters and tell them to go to it. At least they will get shelter and a hot meal for the day if they truly are homeless.

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"I was approached by a homeless/semi-drunk guy on the street who told me how he and his 10 year old son just arrived from out of town and how he's trying to round up enough money for bus fare to get back home"

Haha, that scam of "I need a few bucks to get a bus back home to my son/daughter" (or some variation) has been done for YEARS. Personally I never give to such lying snakes (they always seem like career or professional beggers), but I do give to people who are just honest and down on their luck. A simple "I am going through a hard time can you help me out in any way" will work on me.

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That experience has actually happened to me twice this year. When I used to live in Arizona I worked at a Fry's Fuel Center (gas station) when a man
who appeared to be in his early to mid-thirties approached me. He asked if
I knew of any local church or shelter in the area where he and his six year
old daughter could sleep for the night. First off all I noticed that he
had just left the Taco Bell right across the parking lot from my place of
employment. He was eating a taco and carrying a TB bag of other food and
a large soda cup. So then I figured since he could afford to buy fast
food then he already had some cash in his pocket. And he was alone so
where was his child? I did not ask where was his daughter and his behavior
seemed really shady. I told him that I knew of no local church or shelter
where they could bed down for the night. He did not ask me for money
though as I continued with my daily duties he was approaching some of
my customers asking for money. And he also offered to fill up the bucket
I used for water to refill the window washer bins. I said "no it is my
job to do this and I get paid to do it." Then while inside the fuel center
kiosk I got a phone call from inside the store. Two women patrons had
complained about this idiot trying to panhandle from them! So then I went
outside and told him he needed to leave. He said okay and left and the
next day while I was at work he was seated outside the local Starbucks and
he even said hello. After that day I never saw him again as he moved on from
the area. The other time that I was approached was on my day off as I had
gone inside the Fry's Market Place to get my paycheck. I did so and got
back inside my ride and as I was exiting the parking lot I noticed a tall
black man in his late thirties to early fourties walking with two young
children who appeared to be his own. He saw me driving and waved me down.
I stopped and asked him what he wanted. He said he was poor and out of
work and asked for money. I answered that I had recently replaced the
transmission for my jeep to the cost of $1000.00 and so I had no extra
cash to give to him. I had told him the truth and even offered to show
him my receipt from the auto service place which was on my dashboard.
He said he did not need to see it and thanked me anyway. He and the
young boy and girl kept on walking. Now I do not know if this man was
truly poor and unemployed. Perhaps he was or he was a typical panhandler
who may have had money and was trying to scam shoppers from the store.
Back to the first person, if this guy was so desperate for a place to
sleep and for money then he could have gone to any local work center
and gotten himself registered for daily labor. Those businessess will
even pay cash to the registered workers at the end of the daily job
assignment. Though in my experience of living in Arizona and Florida
these low lifes and panhandlers are just too damn lazy to do an
honest day's work! And btw in Maricopa County, AZ where I used to
live panhandling is against the law due to a county ordinance. And
it is the same in Pinellas County, FL where I now live. Though with
the ongoing weak economy these people will go on doing what they have
done every day. Just wanted to share my two similar experiences.


Lorenzo In Sunny Florida

I'm James "Sonny" Crockett!

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After being back in Florida I was at my local laundrymat to wash and dry
my clothes. As I drove up to the place I saw a white man in his mid-30s
standing outside. I parked and brought some of my wash inside. Then I
went back to my jeep for the rest and he approached me and told me
how he had just fought with his wife. And would I be kind enough to
buy him a beer. I replied "you see the arizona license plate on the
back of my jeep?" "Well I just moved back here and I am unemployed and
trying to find a job." "Therefore I need every dollar and cent that I
have to my name." I also told him that I would not buy him a beer and
that I also needed to spend for the laundrymat. He said okay and walked
away. In my other trips over there I no longer see him and one of the
attendants told me how he tries to pull the same story and scam on
other patrons as well! What a scam artist and low life! Now how is
he having claimed to have fought with his wife have anything to do
with him not being able to afford to buy his own beer!? Did his spouse
take all of the money from his wallet!? Who really cares and I certainly
do not care! LOL, LMAO!


Lorenzo In Sunny Florida

I'm James "Sonny" Crockett!

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Many years ago, I was approached by a homeless/semi-drunk guy on the street who told me how he and his 10 year old son just arrived from out of town and how he's trying to round up enough money for bus fare to get back home. I wasn't quite in the mood for any of his BS so I said to him, "May I see your driver's license?"
He's asking for bus fare, and you want to see his driver's licence?


"How do you know I didn't just kill some Upper East Side debutante and her rich socialite mother and tore their fancy Prada suits off their still-warm bodies, huh? How do you know I didn't just kill someone for her clothes, huh? SO LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!"

He sure got the hell away from me quite fast.
After a rant like that, I imagine everyone within earshot was "getting the hell away from you quite fast".

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I saw a homeless guy with a puppy once. He asked for food money, and while he looked like a skeleton, my psychic powers told me he just wanted drugs. So I stomped his puppy to death. After enjoying watching him sob for a few minutes I told him "get a job and then you can afford a new puppy! I know there's a job crisis, but whatever!" That sure showed him. Then I spent the 60 cents I could have given him on a snickers bar to stuff my already fat ass with and went on with my day. High five, everyone!

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Wow Brad what a great story and is it really true? Now in Albuquerque, NM
there are so many native American males who spend every day panhandling
at gasoline stations, 7-Eleven stores and the Walmart Supercenters. This
is because the great majority of those Indians live at or below the
state's poverty level. And the majority of them are too lazy or just
uncaring to look for work and so they feel that they are entitled to
ask strangers for money. I was approached at gas stations during my
time out there and all of the panhandlers were native americans and
I never gave them any cash!


Lorenzo Sunny Arizona


Call me a sailor or a swabby just don't call me a squid!

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Canadian guy here, I live in a small town so my girlfriend and I like to take a bus up to Toronto and stay for the weekend at a Marriot (she gets pretty good deals there because her sister works there but I digress). So we were waiting in line for the Bus to take us back home, and of course a homeless guy comes by. Usually we just ignore them because even where I live 99% of the time the money just goes to inabiling drug use or something to that effect and I'd rather not inable people seeing as how one of my friends dad is an alcoholic and it ruined his life.

Now I never have change on hand, absolutely ever so even when people ask me for money I say no and if it's for food I offer to go and get them food myself. So back to my story, this guy comes around and is asking every single person in line for money for food. I can't remember his story and I might be pulling at straws here but I'm pretty sure he just got laid off of his job a few months ago or something like that and really needed money for food. So he came to us, now we were near the front of the line and it was getting pretty long, so this guy literally asked everyone that could fit on this coach bus. So he asked us if we had money to spare for food. My girlfriend is a really fit girl, she's all into being healthy and eating protein bars and what not and she always makes a point to bring some with her on our trips because I get grouchy when I'm hungry so she pulled out all the larabars we had (quite a few actually) and a bag of almonds since we were heading home and had no need for them. We thought he would just walk off but we got the most surprising response. He actually took the bars and was extremely gracious for them and walked off and started eating them.

For once in my life I saw someone who actually was honest with what he was asking. It's only a pity that there are some out there that actually make it harder for those in need to actually get some spare change or some food.

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As a side when the guy said, "I came down here from Santa Barbara…." I saw this movie in Santa Barbara and the audience cheered.

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I was on a business trip once and stopped at the local KFC for some lunch.

A white man approached me asking if I could get him some money for something to eat. Normally I would have said no and gone about my business.

Then I noticed he had a Marine tattoo. Then I saw a triangle with two "A"s in it. I would later learn from him it is Alcoholics Anonymous.

The man said he was on his way to Burlington to speak with the VA. It suddenly dawned on me: he had money for the bus or food, but not both.

I told him I would buy him a meal, he quickly (and graciously) agreed while thanking me. We walked inside and he asked if he could get a meal, I smiled and said to get whatever he wanted. He got a meal. We spoke while we ate and he told me of his troubles with alcohol, his working with the VA for food and some help, and such.

When we were done I walked him to the bus stop (it was ten feet from the parking lot and my car was there). We spoke for about another ten minutes when the bus came (and he got on). I shook his hand, thanked him for his service, wished him well, and turned to head to my car. I swear I saw a tear, but it may have been from the sun.

Some say I was scammed, that it was all just a ploy.

If it was it was the best value for the cost of a KFC meal I'd ever seen.

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The OP is making up stories just because she's a fan of the movie. No way did the OP encounter any homeless man to interrogate him like she described. And **** Susan up the ass.

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