Saturday Night Live : Cast of Hamilton attacks Mike Pence
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liberals are having temper tantrums. They're children, what you gonna do?
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I wouldn't call it an attack. They spoke a piece about diversity. How is that an attack?
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I wouldn't call it an attack. They spoke a piece about diversity. How is that an attack?
He was there as an audience member to watch them perform, not to get a half-baked one sided lecture from a bunch of bleeding heart liberals.
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Maybe so, but it was hardly an attack and he was out in public people can say what they like in public, and he can run like a dog with his tail between his legs if he wants to, too.
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people can say what they like in public, and he can run like a dog with his tail between his legs if he wants to, too.
He wasn't running. Secret Service escorted him out first. The cast waited until he was leaving before they made their lame speech. If they had any guts, they would have done it in between acts.
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Perhaps saying he was "assailed" would make it easier for you, but either assailed or attacked are both fitting. Both are characterized by aggresive action against another party. Calling him out and lecturing him in that setting was a pretty aggresive move. Therefore, saying he was attacked is totally legitimate.
"I am on intimate terms with the desert"
Anyone know the reference?
"I am on intimate terms with the desert"
Anyone know the reference?
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Exactly. Doesn't matter if you agree with what he said or not, people are there to watch a play, not be lectured.
Things like this are why Trump won. People are tired of liberals telling them what they should do and how they should think.
Things like this are why Trump won. People are tired of liberals telling them what they should do and how they should think.
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Exactly! And this only helps Pence look like a victim and re-enforces those that voted for him that they voted correctly. When either side gets preachy (and these days, it's the liberals), they lose.
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Oh those liberal progressives! Such tolerant people! (except for anyone who doesn't think the way they do)
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I believe you're referring to Lin-Manuel Miranda; he left the play before he hosted SNL. It wasn't him speaking to Pence. The actor who spoke thanked him for coming (twice), referred to him as sir, and asked the audience not to boo; so if that is your definition of an attack that is your issue.
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Didn't sound at all insincere to me, but I use sir and ma'am constantly. I also didn't think it was condescending to state real fears. If you can't bear people exercising their first amendment right to speak truth to power, you don't belong in power. He didn't say "real" Americans, he said "diverse"; again if you can't represent all the people, don't serve.
Funny you mention manners and etiquette! What was actually rude was Pence's actions. He asks for tickets to a show that is sold out for two years and then DOESN'T go backstage to thank them! That is unheard of bad manners. He returned to his seat late after the intermission (should have gotten booed then!), that's just classless. Other times his presence was disruptive can't be blamed on him, but the audience doesn't usually give a standing ovation in the middle of Yorktown and twice Rory had to stop because of reactions to his lines.
Funny you mention manners and etiquette! What was actually rude was Pence's actions. He asks for tickets to a show that is sold out for two years and then DOESN'T go backstage to thank them! That is unheard of bad manners. He returned to his seat late after the intermission (should have gotten booed then!), that's just classless. Other times his presence was disruptive can't be blamed on him, but the audience doesn't usually give a standing ovation in the middle of Yorktown and twice Rory had to stop because of reactions to his lines.
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And to Pence's actions, how do you know it had to do with rudeness, and not security issues?
Please when VP Biden saw it he waited online for the restroom during intermission!
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Please when VP Biden saw it he waited online for the restroom during intermission!
He waited online? So he peed over the internet?
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Haha
"I am on intimate terms with the desert"
Anyone know the reference?
"I am on intimate terms with the desert"
Anyone know the reference?
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If you thought his "thank you" and "sir" were sincere, you're pretty gullible. And the outburst from the stage to single out one member of the audience is ..rude (whether you want to think so or not).
If the cast of "Hamilton" were truly afraid of what Mike Pence represents (a result of a $120 million smear campaign by Hillary Clinton), then there are better avenues to address their fears. Instead, they chose to be petty, used their stage as a soap-box, and posted the encounter on social media so their friends could like and re-tweet. It was a publicity stunt designed to earn them kudos in certain circles.
And it didn't change a single person's mind about Trump or Pence one iota.
If the cast of "Hamilton" were truly afraid of what Mike Pence represents (a result of a $120 million smear campaign by Hillary Clinton), then there are better avenues to address their fears. Instead, they chose to be petty, used their stage as a soap-box, and posted the encounter on social media so their friends could like and re-tweet. It was a publicity stunt designed to earn them kudos in certain circles.
And it didn't change a single person's mind about Trump or Pence one iota.
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You're clearly rationalizing and I believe you know it.
"I am on intimate terms with the desert"
Anyone know the reference?
"I am on intimate terms with the desert"
Anyone know the reference?
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They shoulda spat in his coffee. Oh wait, that was for the Starbucks story.
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Seriously it was far from an attack. Calling liberals babies is funny because you guys are the biggest Hippocrites. I am actually glad Trump won now the lies are already starting. Sad bunch of people you all are.
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How are we bavies, when we deal with your celebrities and Soapbox 24/7? I'm pointing out that the piece of trash should sit down and sit up. He lost. No one cares what the bucket of slime has to think. That is why he felt the need to trap the guy after HE paid for their show.
Don't they learn from recent incidents with like Wanda Stykes and Amy Schumer. The Lib monopoly on celebrity propaganda is over
You do not take down a Legend
Don't they learn from recent incidents with like Wanda Stykes and Amy Schumer. The Lib monopoly on celebrity propaganda is over
You do not take down a Legend
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And yet you're here on the SNL board (liberal show). The Oscars in a couple months I'm sure will be more Trump bashing (liberal Hollywood).
You can always read a book or visit a website/blog that you always agree with. There are literally hundreds of channels on cable, I'm sure you can find something that fits your need.
But if you rather pout about celebrities exercising their first amendment rights all because they have a bigger platform than you, then buckle up bc it's gonna be a long four years for you.
You can always read a book or visit a website/blog that you always agree with. There are literally hundreds of channels on cable, I'm sure you can find something that fits your need.
But if you rather pout about celebrities exercising their first amendment rights all because they have a bigger platform than you, then buckle up bc it's gonna be a long four years for you.
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You know very little about Hollywood, and Politics if you actually believe Pence paid for those tickets.
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You know very little about Hollywood, and Politics if you actually believe Pence paid for those tickets.
Like Obama and the Mooch pay for anything on their own. Obama saw "Hamilton" twice. Mooch has been on luxury vacations (without Barry) with her kids and mama, in the guise of a "cultural exchange."
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Donald is so butt hurt! It is hilarious feuding with the cast of Hamilton and SNL. He needs a safe space so he doesn't get his little feelings hurt.
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I noticed that they are making a ton of Hamiltons for their play. So I ask, if a bum sits outside the theatre do they just step over him in their way backstage?
The answer is yes.
The answer is yes.
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Obviously you're not aware that for nearly a year they did Ham4Ham outside the theater often multiple times a week. Performances for hundreds of people that wouldn't have a chance to see the play. You can see most of them on youtube, HESherman was the unofficial videographer.
Two of my favs:
The Schyler Georges:
Triumph's Goodbye to Lin:
I wish I had the panorama shots that were taken of the mobs, but if I have time later I will look on Lin's twitter.
Two of my favs:
The Schyler Georges:
Triumph's Goodbye to Lin:
- live theater had some technical difficulties.
I wish I had the panorama shots that were taken of the mobs, but if I have time later I will look on Lin's twitter.
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No, thanks. I wouldn't pay to see that crap and I certainly won't watch it for free. You'd have to "A Clockwork Orange" me to make me see it.
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No, thanks. I wouldn't pay to see that crap and I certainly won't watch it for free. You'd have to "A Clockwork Orange" me to make me see it.
And yet you still watch SNL? Why bother?
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And yet you still watch SNL? Why bother?
I was talking about the play/musical "Hamilton," not SNL.
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I was talking about the play/musical "Hamilton," not SNL.
I realize that, but in other threads you seem to have issues with SNL. Maybe I am remembering that wrong. Given that there are certain things you just refuse to watch, I'm wondering why SNL isn't one of them.
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Well someone seems a bit insecure. the guy spoke very respectfully and asked the crowd not to boo or anything. he didn't preach to half the country unless half the country thinks the other half has no place in this country. By the way are you speaking on behalf of all that "half the country"?
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Yes, because singling out a single member of the audience that attended your show to publicly lecture them on diversity, on the presumption that they are a bigot, is very respectful to you. Do you also hand out health food to children on Halloween?
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Pence was only addressed from the stage after the show because the audience had roundly booed the guy before the performance. Their statement was reasonable, measured rational and positive.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
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And completely unnecessary.
It was just like Chappell saying that he'd give Trump a chance, if Trump gave them a chance first.
Turn that around and imagine a white actor/comedian saying that in his SNL monologue when 0bama was elected in 2008.
It was just like Chappell saying that he'd give Trump a chance, if Trump gave them a chance first.
Turn that around and imagine a white actor/comedian saying that in his SNL monologue when 0bama was elected in 2008.
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No one likes to be preached by people from Entertainment Industry who are mostly there because they were not too good enough for any thing else. Just because they have a voice doesn't mean the have the IQ to think rationally or worse preach down to us!
What a bunch of nuts! An dthe people booing.we assumed you had some individuality at least!
What a bunch of nuts! An dthe people booing.we assumed you had some individuality at least!
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They should have told the audience to stop booing much earlier if they really wanted it to come off positively.
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Have you seen the video? This whole thing was 1:20 long. When Dixon said there was a guest in the audience, first the audience chuckled. There was some barely audible booing at that point and the next thing he said was - there is no reason to boo. Not only did Dixon say this, but Javier Munoz also held up his hand to stop them!
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hamilton+dixon+pence&=&view=detail&mid=4273003D0B165A5C2F1A4273003D0B165A5C2F1A&FORM=VDHSOP&fsscr=0
The few moments of booing was when he came into the theater, was someone supposed to come out on stage before the play starts to say stop booing?
What amazes me at this point is that people are still arguing this when Pence has said he wasn't offended at all. He is very used to that reaction. The big crybaby only threw it out there to distract from real scandals.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hamilton+dixon+pence&=&view=detail&mid=4273003D0B165A5C2F1A4273003D0B165A5C2F1A&FORM=VDHSOP&fsscr=0
The few moments of booing was when he came into the theater, was someone supposed to come out on stage before the play starts to say stop booing?
What amazes me at this point is that people are still arguing this when Pence has said he wasn't offended at all. He is very used to that reaction. The big crybaby only threw it out there to distract from real scandals.
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There are two issues, though - 1. Was it offensive? (No) 2. Was it appropriate? (No).
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The fraud (now he admitted to embezzlement from his charity too!) said it was offensive. But, I'd also have to agree to disagree with you on appropriateness. I think it would have been a shame if they 'passed up their shot'!
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And the hatred of the left comes shining through again.
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.'Their statement was reasonable, measured rational and positive."
Not quite. It was just an upcoming 35 year old theatre actor with tremendous Liberal ideals and a bunch of his cohorts lecturing the Vice President Elect and telling him it's their country he's just living in it.
He couldn't be more out of line. Another liberal randomly using a forum to lecture and tell everyone he has the whole world figured out.
Sorry, not how it works.
And California can secede if it wants, no one will miss that POS.
Not quite. It was just an upcoming 35 year old theatre actor with tremendous Liberal ideals and a bunch of his cohorts lecturing the Vice President Elect and telling him it's their country he's just living in it.
He couldn't be more out of line. Another liberal randomly using a forum to lecture and tell everyone he has the whole world figured out.
Sorry, not how it works.
And California can secede if it wants, no one will miss that POS.
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If an audience member, after the curtain call, yelled out from the audience to the actors as they walk off stage not to leave, and to lecture them that the election is over and to move on, would that be appropriate?
Also - come on - just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Would it not have been better to invite the Vice President-Elect backstage and have a private word with him? Instead, they look like grand-standing publicity hounds.
Also - come on - just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Would it not have been better to invite the Vice President-Elect backstage and have a private word with him? Instead, they look like grand-standing publicity hounds.
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Also - come on - just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
So agree. Nobody's arguing that the cast didn't have the right to do it. The issue was more about appropriateness and decorum. (In other words, they were tacky).
Would it not have been better to invite the Vice President-Elect backstage and have a private word with him? Instead, they look like grand-standing publicity hounds.
Yes, so much better than grandstanding a speech and asking everyone to Tweet, FB, Snapchat and IG it so the world could see. See what? What jack @ssess they were?
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It is normal etiquette that a guest come backstage and greet/thank everyone. Manners Pence didn't have. (This was discussed earlier in this thread.)
If you met an elected official, a public servant, would you not take that opportunity to tell them their policy is crap?
If you met an elected official, a public servant, would you not take that opportunity to tell them their policy is crap?
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You're clearly not a fan of Pence or Trump, and your notions of etiquette appear rather subjective. Also, you would be more persuasive if you didn't use British diction like, "their policy is crap."
Cast of Hamilton attacks Mike Pence
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