The Big Bang Theory : I guess Sheldon doesn't understand the 12 Days of Christmas?
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Earlier in the series he was against Xmas completely, then OK with it but not gift giving so who knows.
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You mean, CHRISTmas.
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
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Maybe that's the bit he objecs to; the hijacking of a nearly 10,000 year old festival by a cabal of priesthood in an effort to take over the world.
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It wasn't hijacked. The Christmastide was part of the liturgical calendar of the church. Do you think they just pulled the date out of their behinds? The idea that Christmas is entirely Pagan culturally appropriated by Christians is a fallacy, a myth. Its full of half truths
Most of our modern day Christian traditions can be traced back to Martin Luther- Protestant Reformer from Germany, during the 16th Century. He invented the Christmas tree. Germany was the basis for many of our Christian traditions.
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
Most of our modern day Christian traditions can be traced back to Martin Luther- Protestant Reformer from Germany, during the 16th Century. He invented the Christmas tree. Germany was the basis for many of our Christian traditions.
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
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We know they didn't "pull the date out of their behinds" they picked it to coincide with the Yuletide festival, which has been ongoing since about eight thousand years before Christ was born. The Romans called it Saturnalia before it was taken over by the Christians.
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AHEM:
http://www.catholic.com/blog/shaun-mcafee/refuting-the-pagan-roots-of-christmas-claim
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
http://www.catholic.com/blog/shaun-mcafee/refuting-the-pagan-roots-of-christmas-claim
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
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Catholic.com? Yeah that's not going to be a skewed version of things AT ALL. That link provided zero proof and zero answers.
The bottom line is, Jesus Christ, if he existed, was NOT born on December 25th. Tap dance all you want, but CHRISTmas was presented to me and most others as the day Christ was born, and we know now that that is NOT true. Where else is there to go from here? Christians made that crap up. But hey, it is a great holiday, so I suppose we should thank them!
"Two gin and Frescas"
"Shaken, not ridiculed"
The bottom line is, Jesus Christ, if he existed, was NOT born on December 25th. Tap dance all you want, but CHRISTmas was presented to me and most others as the day Christ was born, and we know now that that is NOT true. Where else is there to go from here? Christians made that crap up. But hey, it is a great holiday, so I suppose we should thank them!
"Two gin and Frescas"
"Shaken, not ridiculed"
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>>Catholic.com? Yeah that's not going to be a skewed version of things AT ALL. That link provided zero proof and zero answers. <<
It's not supposed to. It's a page intended for people who are already Christian, with hints on how to con other people into believing you. (Sadly, given that critical thinking is not taught as a subject in any school anywhere that I know of, it'll work on a lot of people.)
It's not supposed to. It's a page intended for people who are already Christian, with hints on how to con other people into believing you. (Sadly, given that critical thinking is not taught as a subject in any school anywhere that I know of, it'll work on a lot of people.)
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Sadly, given that critical thinking is not taught as a subject in any school anywhere that I know of, it'll work on a lot of people.
When I home schooled my sons (for 2.5 years} that was one of the subjects. It's possible to get a syllabus that includes a critical thinking section.
I quite enjoyed it myself.
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Excellent. I only wih it was compulsory; teaching people how to spot bullcrap is a sight more important than teaching them which King Edward it was that died in agony with a red hot poker up his bum.
(the Third, if you ask.)
(the Third, if you ask.)
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But do the teachers' unions etc really want to teach children how to spot bullcrap? I have some doubts about that entire premise. Until you define what "critical thinking" actually MEANS, it's just a name. Like when a legislature calls a bill "child protection" when it's really about taxpayer funding for abortion, or whatever.
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Essentially, how to spot an invalid argument; circular reasoning, begging the question, appeal to authority, claiming that X is not bad because Y is worse - that sort of thing. I own one book on the subject; I've read a few others in years gone by, but I doubt I could remember their names.
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That still doesn't seem to hold up to scrutiny, if teachers' union members etc are doing it. Unless they include exceptions such as "unless we say it's racist or sexist or whatever, and then you don't think critically."
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Why in the name of Hades would you make an exception like that?
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You don't know for certain He wasn't born on December 25th. And yes, he did exist. And He shall return.
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
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Are you suggesting that the Bible may have lied? Luke explicitly mentions shepherds watching their flocks at night, and that only happens in summer.
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Sheeps are born in the winter, though . And the time line- what makes you think the Shepherds didn't see the angel months before Jesus was born? The Bible is the true word of God. People risked their lives to write it and the very first Christian church people also risked their lives. Because Jesus was a real man , part divinity who rose again!
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
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No, the bible is a book written by men claiming it is the true word of God.
The Bible is the true word of God.
It is a book translated numerous times, over the centuries, by men.
What it says depends on which sect of Christianity you belong to and how they have chosen to interpret the text over the centuries.
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The Bible is historical text in which God, our Creator, revealed Himself. It is also backed up by archaelogical evidence.
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
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There is no proof that anything written in the bible is true. None.
"Two gin and Frescas"
"Shaken, not ridiculed"
"Two gin and Frescas"
"Shaken, not ridiculed"
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The proof is there if you took the time to look it up. Its a historical text.
Jews know this too . Catholicism is a cult and not true Christianity, so I wouldn't listen to any kind of Catholic. They pray to Saints and they have all kinds of beliefs that not Biblical
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
Jews know this too . Catholicism is a cult and not true Christianity, so I wouldn't listen to any kind of Catholic. They pray to Saints and they have all kinds of beliefs that not Biblical
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
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If people being willing to die proves something to be true, I assume you've converted to al-Qa'eda?
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The Bible is the true word of God.
The Bible, as has often been pointed out, wasn't faxed down from heaven. One just has to look up and study the Council Of Nicea. Many aspects of Christianity were discussed and voted on, including the role of bishops, how the sacraments should be administered, the date Easter should be celebrated, and which gospels would be included in the Bible. Most ministers of that time kept a record of what they preached and believed. There were lots of choices. Emperor Constantine financed the collection of gospels that became the Bible. Interestingly enough, the Latin word "haereticus" which means choice, became attached to the voters who voted for the losing gospels. They were the first people called heretics, because the winners felt they had voted incorrectly.
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AHEM:
Do they attempt to explain the fact that December 25th is also supposedly the birthday of Mithras, Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus?
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Winter Solstice is December 21st, not December 25th. Also Christmas is a 12 day celebration, not just one day.
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
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Winter Solstice is December 21st, not December 25th. Also Christmas is a 12 day celebration, not just one day.
Where did I ever mention the winter solstice? Oh, that's right. I didn't.
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I guess you missed it when planned parenthood was caught on camera about selling baby parts.
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
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Most of our modern day Christian traditions can be traced back to Martin Luther- Protestant Reformer from Germany, during the 16th Century. He invented the Christmas tree.
Are you sure of this? If you are, could you please give a few more examples.
I can find no evidence that, other than the Christmas tree, Martin Luther had anything to do with the introduction of any Christmas traditions.
I know that just because I can't find evidence doesn't mean that it does not exist, which is why I am asking.
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You mean, CHRISTmas.
Don't be ridiculous. The use of the letter X to represent Christ is nearly as old as Christianity itself, and originates with the fact that the first letter in the Greek word for 'Christ' is 'chi,' and the Greek letter 'chi' is represented by the symbol most like the letter 'X' in the modern Roman alphabet. Hence 'Xmas' is indeed perfectly reasonable abbreviation for 'Christmas'.
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Yes, but most people don't know that. They just use it as a way to stamp out the Christ.
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
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Yes, but most people don't know that. They just use it as a way to stamp out the Christ.
And you know this how? How can you prove "most people" who write Xmas are intending to stamp out Christ? And this is coming from a lifelong Catholic, who is a alumni of Loyola and learned to argue from Jesuits just so you know.
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Be reasonable. He knows as little about the Bible as he does about history, you can hardly expect rational answers from him.
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Be reasonable. He knows as little about the Bible as he does about history, you can hardly expect rational answers from him.
I concede your point, but I work in a museum and this kind of thing just drives me nuts. When did people forget how to do research in this country?
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Didn't he become ok with gift giving when he got the Nimoy napkin?
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In a later season when they went to Amy'she was still pretty against things I can't quite remember but think he was trying to out gift her so she wouldn't want to do so in future.
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It's a mystery where he ever picked up the notion that your gift to X has to be the same value as X's gift to you frankly, if that were true I'd be even less inclined to do gift excchanges than he is. Utterly stupid notion - you don't even KNOW how much X is going to spend on you, and if that were how it worked you wouldn't need to trade gifts at all, just give him a $10 bill and then he can give it you straight back.
But, being Sheldon, once he's got some ridiculous idea into his head good luck ever persuading him to take it out again.
But, being Sheldon, once he's got some ridiculous idea into his head good luck ever persuading him to take it out again.
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I thought it was all about reciprocal propriety, but then he lost it because he liked the napkin so much.
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It was still about his obsession with giving equal value to what he received, he just thought the napkin with Leonard Nimoy's DNA on it was worth more than all the gift baskets he'd bought.
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I think it was more than just it was out of balance, which would have just peeved him, I'm pretty sure he was touched by the gift.
I thought it was all about reciprocal propriety, but then he lost it because he liked the napkin so much.
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I thought it was all about reciprocal propriety, but then he lost it because he liked the napkin so much.
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I guess Sheldon doesn't understand the 12 Days of Christmas?
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".