Rings : They SO could have incorporated Rachel and Aiden in this
Re: They SO could have incorporated Rachel and Aiden in this
Paramount wanted them to lean away from including Rachel and Aidan because they wanted it to be more of a reboot than a sequel (as it stands, it has both elements but feels more like a reboot because they downplay a lot of the sequel elements).
Naomi Watts is doing very well. Since the Ring Two, she's been in about 30 new films, was nominated for an Academy Award and Golden Globe (for The Impossible), and is about to star in a Netflix series and the Twin Peaks revival on Showtime.
David Dorfman has retired and works in law now, but I agree that if they wanted to use his character enough, they could've done a recast. Maybe in the next one (if there is a next one).
Naomi Watts is doing very well. Since the Ring Two, she's been in about 30 new films, was nominated for an Academy Award and Golden Globe (for The Impossible), and is about to star in a Netflix series and the Twin Peaks revival on Showtime.
David Dorfman has retired and works in law now, but I agree that if they wanted to use his character enough, they could've done a recast. Maybe in the next one (if there is a next one).
Re: They SO could have incorporated Rachel and Aiden in this
Paramount wanted them to lean away from including Rachel and Aidan because they wanted it to be more of a reboot than a sequel (as it stands, it has both elements but feels more like a reboot because they downplay a lot of the sequel elements).
Yeah, there was hardly anything from the previous movies even touched on apart from the flashback scenes of Samara Morgan's adoptive parents, the Evelyn woman, and the "Seattle" reference in the beginning which was where the Kellers were living in the second movie. But with no mention or even a reference to Rachel and Aiden given, those three things doesn't make it clear there were previous entries before this one. Bride of Chucky did the "reboot" thing for the Child's Play series too, but it acknowledged the events of the first three films more that you got the gist this wasn't a Part 1. It referenced Andy Barclay without actually saying his name and he's brought up only one time in a newspaper article saying: "Boy Claims Doll Possessed By Killer's Soul" in the opening title credits. It did bother me that Chucky didn't even mention him or point out the fact Andy is the reason he's in stitches now. It's just very loose, but not as so as in this movie. Whereas a newcomer to the CP series can see Bride isn't Part 1 there, some newcomer could go into this series and think this was a Part 1.
In the end, the movie did work fine without Rachel and Aiden as much as I would have liked to see them there. But they didn't have to be completely erased from existence. The writers could have thrown a line or two about them or even a newspaper article and not even have to say their names.
Naomi Watts is doing very well. Since the Ring Two, she's been in about 30 new films, was nominated for an Academy Award and Golden Globe (for The Impossible), and is about to star in a Netflix series and the Twin Peaks revival on Showtime.
This is good. I head something on her about a year ago, but haven't heard much of her since. I'm happy she's still has the spotlight factor on her.
David Dorfman has retired and works in law now, but I agree that if they wanted to use his character enough, they could've done a recast. Maybe in the next one (if there is a next one).
I wonder what they will do in the next one. I think this series could go on for one more movie and the characters here meet Rachel and Aiden and perhaps throw Evelyn back in the mix. I kind of don't mind how it ends with this movie with Samara being "reborn" since I gotten use to the idea that not every horror movie needs a happy ending for the victims and the killer continues on. I just like to still see the original cast involved in the finale. I also want to know how Samara was able to come back after having the well closed on her in the second movie that this movie didn't touch on and her life before being adopted by the Morgans, so I'm willing to itch for one more movie just for those things. The next movie should start off following the second movie and establishes Samara's return and then jump after the events of this movie.
Re: They SO could have incorporated Rachel and Aiden in this
Yeah, there was hardly anything from the previous movies even touched on apart from the flashback scenes of Samara Morgan's adoptive parents, the Evelyn woman, and the "Seattle" reference in the beginning which was where the Kellers were living in the second movie. But with no mention or even a reference to Rachel and Aiden given, those three things doesn't make it clear there were previous entries before this oneIt's just very loose, but not as so as in this movie. Whereas a newcomer to the CP series can see Bride isn't Part 1 there, some newcomer could go into this series and think this was a Part 1.
In the end, the movie did work fine without Rachel and Aiden as much as I would have liked to see them there. But they didn't have to be completely erased from existence. The writers could have thrown a line or two about them or even a newspaper article and not even have to say their names.
I believe this movie is actually set in somewhere in Washington though they don't say it explicitly. The guy on the plane says he watched the tape in Seattle and the plane is heading to Seattle. Then Gabriel buys the guys VCR so you can assume it's also somewhere in Washington state. They were actually in Seattle in the first movie though. In the second, the Kellers move to Astoria, Oregon. I heard there may have also been a reference to Rachel at least in one of the newspaper clippings. It's something you have to look for closely and you would probably have to own a copy so you could pause it and read all the newspaper clippings they show on Gabriel's board.
I wonder what they will do in the next one. I think this series could go on for one more movie and the characters here meet Rachel and Aiden and perhaps throw Evelyn back in the mix. I kind of don't mind how it ends with this movie with Samara being "reborn" since I gotten use to the idea that not every horror movie needs a happy ending for the victims and the killer continues on. I just like to still see the original cast involved in the finale. I also want to know how Samara was able to come back after having the well closed on her in the second movie that this movie didn't touch on and her life before being adopted by the Morgans, so I'm willing to itch for one more movie just for those things. The next movie should start off following the second movie and establishes Samara's return and then jump after the events of this movie.
I'm not sure they would want to bring Naomi Watts back if they want to keep pushing the "reboot" angle. It would be awesome if they did; it's not like people forgot The Ring, but for some reason the studio thinks they did and would rather cater to younger people that haven't seen the first two. I have a strong feeling she wouldn't lead the film if they did bring her back and it may be something along the lines of "Rachel shows up at the very end in the final battle against Samara". "The characters visit Rachel for information about Samara" or "Rachel shows up for a scene or two and then gets killed by Samara" (Like Laurie Strode [Jamie Lee Curtis] in Halloween Resurrection who shows up in the beginning then gets killed by Michael Myers).
I would say the best bet is an interquel (A sequel to the Ring Two and a prequel to Rings). It would explain how Samara got out of the well and it lets them keep using the "old" technology (vcrs, tapes, corded phones). A direct sequel to Rings would be absolutely insane because they have to deal with the tape being viral and Samara's rebirth (some questions include: How does the tape work now that Samara is reborn in Julia? Does Samara still come out of the TV, or will Julia show up in person instead? The appearance of Samara (i.e. is Matilda Lutz now playing Samara or is there a physical Samara (Julia) and a ghost Samara that looks how she usually does)
They SO could have incorporated Rachel and Aiden in this
I wonder if Naomi Watts would have been willing to return. What is she even doing now? I don't hear anything from her. Some one said David Dorfman retired from acting, but I don't think he actually retired but just went off the radar for the time being. I think he could have been willing to come back to play his role again. It wouldn't have taken up too much of his time and if he wasn't willing to come back, there's a thing called RECASTING. I doubt he was that popular as Naomi that only he could play the character, especially after twelve years since he was a boy and Aiden would be in his 20s now.