Hidden Figures : Right wing loons

Those hard right wingers never disappoint. They claim to detest any type of entertainment about the black experience yet they can't stop yapping about it.

Methinks they dost protest too much.

Tapfanfool wrote:

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Methinks they dost protest too much.

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Lookinmirror.

And their favorite defense is basically "So? You did it too! You're participating in the discussion I started innocently!"

I would love to know which people actually shelled out to see this movie if they're so against everything it is about.

Someone should devise a test regarding details in the movie. If they can't answer, they can go see the movie before gracing us with their personal philosophies that have nothing to do with the movie.

(For the record, I have not yet seen it. I usually wait for home release, but I popped in here to see discussion about the movie, not expecting it to be an annex of forum.breitbart.alt-right.whitesupremacist.bigly. )

Racism at it's heart is about obsession and jealousy.

You cannot expend the amount of energy they do with their hatred, such a toxic and awful self-destructive emotion, without being hopelessly obsessed with the object of your hatred.

In that way, hate is more obsessive than love is, because at least love feels awesome on all sides.

The dedication to this, means that they are absolutely hopelessly deeply obsessed with blackness. Like an insecure boy who can't stop hitting the girl they like.

I couldn't agree more.

God bless you. You sure know your Alt right talking points.

Tappedoutfool wrote:

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God bless you. You sure know your Alt right talking points.

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Welluhhgee, god bless you for knowing your alt-left buzzwords designed to stifle any dissent without genuine debate.

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Racism at it's heart is about obsession and jealousy.

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The racist on the board have a need and desire to feel superior. That is why they want to down- play and achievements made by blacks.

Blkgurlsmuse


Are you saying a handful of black women doing a job they were hired to do is an achievement? White people and I'm sure an asian or two worked there, maybe even a native. Shouldn't they also be achievers then?

Do you see what you did and what I did?

Why should these women be recognized exactly? For overcoming racial boundaries and .what? Doing their damn jobs?

What exactly makes these women important besides the fact that they were black? This seems wellracist to me.

I know I'll now be called a racist because that's how this stupid game is played.



Movies like this could be great if the right people are chosen.

Now, I'm going to tell you what is riling up "ol whitey" and is leading to very bad things in our futures. Keep in mind, I have kids, I don't want this to happen.

Every commercial, every show, and more and more movies are portraying white people in a negative light. White people, especially men are the bad guys. Nothing can be done at this point (cause racism or whatever) to stop what's happening and where it's heading.

These women did their job and now they are heroes while a white man who could have changed the world 100 years ago will never be heard of and gradually taken out of history circulation in favor of these "diverse heroes" who did average work they were hired to do. On every side there are real innovators and whatnot, that's not the issue here.

The country is dividing into two groups. On one side is the uneducated minorities and the moderately educated white liberals who are trying to "help" or whatever they think they are doing and following along with this liberal agenda that's been pushed on them. They actively encourage the uneducated minorities by pandering to them and telling them they are oppressed by the white man (they aren't). this is a terrible circle that's been going on since the 50s and earlier. It can't stop because the liberals are their own "special club" where everyone is unique and special and caring etc. Many in this group have crippling student loan debt and will never get real jobs with their "studies" and "communications" degrees or are low paid teachers and are a ticking time bomb of rage and need someone to target. The "white man".

The other side is your average joe. These aren't just whites mind you. This group works hard, many go to church, doesn't protest every little thing that bothers them, some stay out of trouble, some not. This group ranges from the uneducated, loud and annoying people (also stuck in group think like liberals but vastly outnumbered) to tradesmen to walmart workers to high-level white collar workers, business owners, politicians, etc.

The second group tends to be fairly thin in the Gen Xer range but is booming among Gen Z. Booming like you can't imagine. The over 40's are also in this range for the most part with the exception of teachers and therapists and social workers, etc.

The first group attacks the second group 100 times a day calling them racists, bigots, uncle toms, white-lovers, trump supporters (a new one) , deplorables, etc. The second group doesn't really react.

The first group can't think outside their box and pushes their agenda on the second groups children in schools, on television, in movies, etc. The media slant on Clinton in the past few months has lit the fuse. The second group isn't going to take it much longer. All the lies, all the name calling, all the racism and hate is building.

The funny thing is, the second group are stronger, smarter, better armed, not afraid of conflicts and don't need hugs and safe spaces and will do anything to protect their families and friends.

Every movie like this pushes group 2 a little closer to the edge as their heritage is picked at like a vulture picking at a carcass.

Every uneducated post they read on the Internet unites them just a little bit and the poster will never accept they might be wrong. They can't escape their programming and the liberals are ahead.

Gen Z is maturing. In 3 years they vote. in 13-20 they are in office.

They hate liberal stupid bullcrap and agendas and don't trust the media, tv or hollywood or news.

It's all coming to an end for you guys and something like this particular post here about achievements is one more brick in the wall you're barricading yourselves in with.

TL;DR

Liberals are ruining the earth and it's going to backfire on them without mercy soon.

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For overcoming racial boundaries

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Yep- you said it.

I stopped reading your rant after you answered your own question. I'm sure it sucked anyway.

Do you really believe that people like Dr. Daniel Hale Williams was just "doing a damn job" and had no obstacles to over come?

Cut it out, will you. Stop trying to down play their achievements.



TWD- The worst season finale ever. Never mind- Sleepy Hollow was worse.

I was going to put in my own response to the person you just responded to, and realized that wasn't a good idea. So I put them on ignore. I was going to counter each point they made. But, I saw that I would just be writing a massive post with the intent of shooting down their arguments and making them admit they're wrong or slink away in defeat. But, that's the thing. People like this don't concede. They don't want to. You never win with them because as soon as you respond, they've gotten what they wanted.

Yes, I'm an American. And, prouder than ever after participating in the Doctor Who board on IMDB.

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Sorry, but if these three women werent black, there would be no movie. The movie is attached to their blackness, and their "achievements" exaggerated in the name of PC. At the same time, no people commit more crimes than blacks yet there are no movies about Ferguson, or Baltimore, or Chicago. That too is PC.

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This.

For those of you who don't get it, this says it all.

Amen, sister! Thankfully, there's many more of us level-headed, good-hearted people than there is of those losers. = LOVE WINS =

Agreed!

its funny, because on the core issues, black probably align more with the right wingers, but being that the Republicans are viewed as 'the man', blacks think they're supposed to think conservatives are the enemy.

blacks and conservatives are generally religious, and place great emphasis on God Libbies think God is a laughable idea.

blacks and conservatives are generally in no hurry to champion gay people. Libbies are so PC, the mere implication of not loving every thing about a gay person implies discriminination, in their eyes.

blacks and conservatives want tighter restriction on immigration. Libbies want to bring every one and their mother here, with open arms.

Those are some sweeping generalizations you're making about almost 40 million people. Also, your argument is loaded with clichd right-wing talking points and lots of political spin and flimflam.

And who on God's green earth still uses the term "the man?" Nobody that I know, not even those people who are old enough to remember when that term was somewhat fresh.

Ironic much?. You have the gall to say I made sweeping generalizations!!??? Who's the fool who started this entire thread? You did. Practice what you preach. If you don't like stereotypes, then don't make them. You made blanket statements about 30% of the country.

I noticed you didn't disagree with anything i said though, by the way. You sure conveniently tried to talk around it though.

Latinos and Hispanics are notoriously conservative but are continually shat on by Republicans.

SJWs can
http://www.imdb.com/board/10182769/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

No they aren't. Hispanics are overwhelmingly in favor of having a large federal government.

Any film about history that features blacks making positive contributions to this country are always passed off as race baiting. It's not like this never happened. We get it. They want drug dealera, magic negros and slavery.


I am the Alpha and the Omoxus. The Omoxus and the Omega

The alt-right complains just as much about those movies featuring slavery and Jim Crow as they do about other themes.

Their goal isn't so much a desire to see blacks in subservient roles. There ultimate goal is much worse. They want total erasure of black people and the black experience in America. They want all things to go back to a time when everything throughout America defaulted to white and black folks were as James Baldwin famously illustrated, "invisible."

homoxus wrote:

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Any film about history that features blacks making positive contributions to this country

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Nah. In this case the contributions are being highly exaggerated. The offense is the truth being trumped by feelgood Hollywood bullzhit. It couldn't be that they were just worker bees at NASA. No, these ladies were the real, hitherto unheralded brains behind the Apollo program. Riiiiight.

Just how do YOU know how much credit is given to the contributions of these women when you haven't seen the film?

Oh, I know. Any story that doesn't have white protagonists is just P.C. propaganda to you.

Like Claude Raines' character in Casablanca, I'm shocked to hear that. Just shocked!

But here's what I don't get. Nobody is forcing the Breitbart gang from Big Hollywood or Stormfront or VDare to watch this film. Why does it cause them to get their panties in such a twist?

Tappedoutfool wrote:

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Just how do YOU know how much credit is given to the contributions of these women when you haven't seen the film?

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The IMDB blurb states "A team of African-American women provide NASA with important mathematical data needed to launch the program's first successful space missions." No credit is given to the rest of the team, particularly the team of engineers and theoretical physicists who were instructing them on what numbers to compute. The implication is that these three women alone provided NASA with "important mathematical data," as if there were no other "computers" grinding out the numbers, and completely ignoring the fact that the real brains behind the missions in which they were involved were other people.

And then you have morons producing silly propaganda like this:
"Hidden Figures Trailer: The Brains Behind the Space Race"
http://screenrant.com/hidden-figures-trailer/

These women weren't the "real brains" behind anything. They were smart, dedicated, and effective employees, sure, but they were worker bees. They were cogs who could easily have been replaced by any trio of numerically literate engineers and the space program wouldn't have been affected a blip. The same cannot be said of the critical historical importance of Robert Goddard, Werner von Braun, etc. But you won't hear much about them. They were irrelevant even in the white-man-centric film "The Right Stuff," which was all about glorifying the test pilots and astronauts.

Who the heck is tappedoutfool? That's not me.

And you still can't judge a film you haven't seen. And nobody's forcing you or anyone else to see it. Over 85 percent of films made by the U.S. film industry have white protagonists. You actually have to make an effort to avoid these films.

So why do you care about films with non-white protagonists?

Not a think is taken away from white folks because this film was made. Not one thing.

tappedoutfool wrote:

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And you still can't judge a film you haven't seen.

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Thanks for that insight Einstein. I'm obviously responding only to the initial marketing and other propagandistic buzz being fed to the lemmings.

Don't hurl insults. Strengthen your argument. Folks aren't lemmings just because they disagree with you.

And you're complaining about marketing? All films are sold to the public. That's good old-fashioned capitalism. Right wingers are supposed to love and respect the profit motive.

And no film is made for everyone. If the subject matter or the way the film is sold upsets you, just ignore it.

tappedoutfool wrote:

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Don't hurl insults. Strengthen your argument. Folks aren't lemmings just because they disagree with you.

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I'm referring to other lemmings who have blogs and run articles with ignorant or purposefully misleading titles like "The Brains Behind the Space Race" (http://screenrant.com/hidden-figures-trailer/) and official IMDB storylines including insane exaggerations like "NASA found untapped talent in a group of African-American female mathematicians that served as the brains behind one of the greatest operations in U.S. history."

Note: THE brains

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And you're complaining about marketing? All films are sold to the public. That's good old-fashioned capitalism. Right wingers are supposed to love and respect the profit motive.

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Yep, and plenty of old-fashioned capitalism has been based on lies. Let's seeEnron, Worldcom, Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Bernie Madoff, Airborne (it cures colds!), Dr. Clark's cancer curing Zapper, One A Day vitamins (they prevent prostate cancer!).

Hey, how about a new Elvis Presley biopic with the tagline "Elvis Presley: the real brains and talent behind the birth of the blues and rock n' roll"!!! Well hell, it's all in the name of capitalism, so it'd be just fine right? Who cares about truth. Make a buck however possible. In the name of marketing and advertising all claims are acceptable. Yeahhhh

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Who the heck is tappedoutfool? That's not me.

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He thinks it's clever.


I am the Alpha and the Omoxus. The Omoxus and the Omega

They always do.

What kills me is that last year with the whole #OscarsSoWhite thing, they charged that black films aren't that good and now this year, we got Moonlight, Fences, Loving, The Birth of a Nation, and this in the running for Awards season. And all the racists STILL bitch about them!

Whatever you are, be a good one.

Moonlight, Fences and Loving has legit shots for awards but Moonlight has the best chance because unlike the other movies you mentioned, Moonlight has real artistry, creativity and vision along with a unique story that's universal while the others are just the same old stories with quality acting.
I see Fences and Loving more of an actor's showcase than anything else.
I seriously doubt Birth of a Nation or this movie are even worthy of any award consideration.

Left wing snowflakes

Those extreme left wingers never disappoint. They claim to detest any type of perceived, real or imagined, racism and sexism yet they can't stop yapping about it.

Methinks they dost run to their "safe spaces" too much.

If every person who challenges alt-right guys was some delicate flower who needs safe spaces, we certainly wouldn't be engaging you in conversation.


Seeing you guys up close is actually reassuring. You aren't the least bit intimidating.