Preacher : Okay, can we all just agree that was bad writing?
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And like I said, it was explained.
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No it wasn't. Besides, my prediction came true.. They were going to blow up the entire town and its residents anyway so what the heck.. they could pull any stunt they desired including making Emily do something so despcable..
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So Emily is told that Cassidy is a vampire- can you deal with that? \
Um okay.
Now feed him these animals
Um okay.
Then calling up the mayor for help (and I saw it coming btw, very cheap shock) and then serving him up to Cassidy?
That was some serious pathetic writing. First off, it was predictable. Secondly; it was completely out of character. There was no indication that she had any homicidal tendencies , let alone to the mayor character. Yeah she had no interest in him romantically, yes she pitied him, but there was zero, and I mean ZERO build-up for her to do this.
There was zero build-up for her to murder a person so brutally. She didn't like Cassidy to begin with, and even if you like Cassidy, that doesn't mean you wouldn't just serve up someone to him just like that. Especially a VAMPIRE- a creature which shouldn't exist BTW but it didn't took long for her to just up and believe that
Some people online compared her actions to Breaking bad What? Breaking bad is solid writing, a shock is something that should come organically. It was right in your face, hints were there, and then suddenly the truth is out. Walter White had been losing his humanity slowly, before he completely lost it. It wasn't out of character, we understood it.
It was horrendous writing, a cheap shock. Fan of the comic or not, can we at least agree to that?
It really annoys me that people just accept this. I understand liking this show but come on people.
Nonsense. I think you probably weren't paying attention to Emily's arc throughout the season.
Emily doesn't like Cassidy initially because she doesn't trust him and thinks he's taking advantage of Jesse.
Emily doesn't like Miles because she rightly thinks Miles is a "nice guy" creep. On top of which he made clear that:
A) He was siding with Odin and going to take actions guaranteed to hurt Jesse.
AND
B) Things were going to change between she and Miles; i.e. they were going to become a couple now, whether she liked it or not.
Emily was trapped. Her entire arc from the episode on showed that, and the scene from PSYCHO underscored this perfectly as well as hinted at her way out. It also indicates how quickly she'd come to that conclusion.
As for Emily accepting that Cassidy was a vampire very quickly, it's a fantasy show with a heightened reality. So rather than weeks of Cassidy having to prove it to her, she walks in on him tearing into an animal in the corner and KNOWS it's true keeping in mind she had seen his strange behavior before at the church and what Tulip told her and sees a way to solve both their problems.
Oh, and Tulip also accepted Cassidy as being a vampire with relative ease. The only one who didn't was Jesse.
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Nice to see that someone gets it!
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Yes, thank you!
And so did the sheriff, who fairly easily figured it out on his own.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
Oh, and Tulip also accepted Cassidy as being a vampire with relative ease.
And so did the sheriff, who fairly easily figured it out on his own.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
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Well Tulip seen him on the verge of death one minute and then perfectly fine the next (after drinking blood) if that won't get you to believe in vampires nothing probably will.
Also if so many people don't like the show why do they keep watching and commenting about it?
Also if so many people don't like the show why do they keep watching and commenting about it?
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Okay, can we all just agree that was bad writing?
It was ridiculous.
It's not just you, a number of reviewers pointed it out.
Again, having Emily finally do something is great, but killing the mayor seemed entirely out of nowhere, and really, the guy simply didnt deserve it. I think giving Emily an act of rebellion is a great idea and would help to humanize her, but this was just way too far.
- Collider
Emily takes the information well, considering, and after watching a bit of Psycho, decides that she might as well kill two birds with one stone and feed Mayor Miles to Cassidy. Wait, what? I know Preacher likes to have an unpredictable vibe, but you cant throw out any sense of character to achieve that.
- Indiewire
If there was a character this week whose storyline veered the most, it would have to be Emily. So, this usually straightforward, decent young woman suddenly decides that the guy she's been sleeping with for all his faults and utterly boring personality is ripe for being fed to a vampire?
- Empire Online.
In particular, Emily setting up Miles to be fed to Cassidy didn't work at all, not even with the "We're all in our private traps" scene from Psycho to prime her. The show has established that Emily views Miles as a utility for both sex and babysitting and little more, but it's also portrayed her as a fundamentally good person who represents a moral opposite from Tulip (and from Jesse, for that matter).
- Hitflix
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Anyone not getting Emily feeding Miles to Cassidy is just not paying attention. Put down the cell phones and actually watch the show.
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Exactly. I often wonder how many people actually pay close attention and think about these shows.
I turn off all the lights and focus completely on it.
Come on, people this show is a combination of science fiction and Biblical allegory all twisted up and thrown in a blender with some current events and pop culture references thrown in with the soundtrack.
Sit back and just soak it in by trying to pick it apart, you're missing the point entirely.
Go read some Dickens or Fitzgerald or something if you're that hard to please.
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I turn off all the lights and focus completely on it.
Come on, people this show is a combination of science fiction and Biblical allegory all twisted up and thrown in a blender with some current events and pop culture references thrown in with the soundtrack.
Sit back and just soak it in by trying to pick it apart, you're missing the point entirely.
Go read some Dickens or Fitzgerald or something if you're that hard to please.
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Predictable AND out of character? Those are contradictory ideas. But then again, so many people on these threads are using hyperbole to bitch, why not?
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Was that really suppose to be a shock? The only shocking part was how the finale ended, which is literally everything and nothing happened at the same time. It wasn't the worst finale I've ever seen but it felt so rushed and unpolished.
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No.
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I agree that it was out of character but after watching the season finale, I can see that no terrible act will be out of character for anyone the writers will introduce on this show. It is possible to develop characters that are so real, it feels like they could strut right off the page, fully fleshed and into the your world. That isn't the route the writers have taken. In this world, there isn't good and evil. There are people pretending to be good, following routines of established behavior. In this world, everything is *beep* and there is no good.
I have a feeling that this will begin to wear on viewers unless they keep the tone light next season. Then again, what do I know? I stopped watching The Walking Dead a few seasons back because I came to the realization that the show was too successful, brought in too much money to ever allow any kind of rest or payoff for the characters I'd come to care about. That show seems to continue to do well despite its own brand of nihilism.
I have a feeling that this will begin to wear on viewers unless they keep the tone light next season. Then again, what do I know? I stopped watching The Walking Dead a few seasons back because I came to the realization that the show was too successful, brought in too much money to ever allow any kind of rest or payoff for the characters I'd come to care about. That show seems to continue to do well despite its own brand of nihilism.
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I think the way it was presented wasn't bad writing, it was comical writing and it wasn't entirely unrealistic as she seemed shocked and curious at once and she also seemed not completely surprised as she certainly suspected Cassidy to be shady and that she sacrificed the mayor to him is also plausible as she seized the opportunity to get rid of a creepy leech who threatened to completely smother her with his "love" and she is clearly the kind of woman who could never find the strength to break up with a guy who is so "nice" to her, she is weak and full of suppressed anger, in real life she would have probably pushed him in front of a car.
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"I ignore pathetic trolls"
"Some people are immune to good advice."
-Saul Goodman
"I ignore pathetic trolls"
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What do you think this series is? Sopranos? Boardwalk empire?
This is an over-the-top, exaggerated series, and it's done that way on purpose.
Emily perhaps secretly hated the mayor enough, because of years of annoyances and the fact that he contributed to the downfall of the church and Jesse, that when she saw an opening to get rid of him, she did.
They are all dead anyway.
This is an over-the-top, exaggerated series, and it's done that way on purpose.
Emily perhaps secretly hated the mayor enough, because of years of annoyances and the fact that he contributed to the downfall of the church and Jesse, that when she saw an opening to get rid of him, she did.
They are all dead anyway.
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First off, it was predictable. Secondly; it was completely out of character.
Well which one is it? Can't be both.
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No its really not. If you'd been paying attention you'd known Emily was catching on to the shady dealing of the mayor with Quincannon. Especially the murder of those company execs. He's also actively working against Jessy whom she is in love with. The mayor is also beginning to force himself upon her stating that "He's spending the entire night this time" which sounds just a little rapey. You also have the Norman Bates speech in the background prior talking about being caged in, which the mayor has essentially been doing to her the entire show.
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No!
It's always the same, when someone who enjoys only drama, action or adventure critizizes fantasy, science fiction or just absurd drama and cover his reluctance (sometimes his lack of understanding) with pseudo facts like 'bad writing'.
It's always the same, when someone who enjoys only drama, action or adventure critizizes fantasy, science fiction or just absurd drama and cover his reluctance (sometimes his lack of understanding) with pseudo facts like 'bad writing'.
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Agreed, just because you don't understand it - doesn't mean it's 'bad writing'. Sheesh.
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That was some serious pathetic writing. First off, it was predictable. Secondly; it was completely out of character. There was no indication that she had any homicidal tendencies , let alone to the mayor character.
If it is out of character, how can it be predictable? Surely action out-of-character is unpredictable??
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wow..People don't just accept it, they like it enough to defend it..
This show is really poorly written, I agree, as if it was put together by a committee of fanboys who want to remake Oliver Stone's Savages I wanted to like it, and I "payed attention" to all the nuances of the characters but Emily feeding Cassidy the Mayor? That was where I stopped being invested. Preacher is an irredeemable mess. For me this is the television equivalent to Suicide Squad: all the work went into hyping and promoting the concept, but unfortunately the execution turned out to be lazy and uninspired. Terrible, terrible writing, stupid accents, and lots and lots of pandering to the lowest common denominator. I can't believe I watched so much of this schlock disguised as counter-culture. Seth Rogen can eat my shorts.
This show is really poorly written, I agree, as if it was put together by a committee of fanboys who want to remake Oliver Stone's Savages I wanted to like it, and I "payed attention" to all the nuances of the characters but Emily feeding Cassidy the Mayor? That was where I stopped being invested. Preacher is an irredeemable mess. For me this is the television equivalent to Suicide Squad: all the work went into hyping and promoting the concept, but unfortunately the execution turned out to be lazy and uninspired. Terrible, terrible writing, stupid accents, and lots and lots of pandering to the lowest common denominator. I can't believe I watched so much of this schlock disguised as counter-culture. Seth Rogen can eat my shorts.
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^ Totally agree with everything you wrote.
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It seems people are just taking this show way to serious especially when trying to read between the lines. Its' just a TV show! I just find it a fun and hilarious show to watch to help me escape reality. Another show, "People of Earth", which just came out, seems similar in some ways like, "Preacher". Shows you shouldn't take seriously, just sit and enjoy it.
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this show is not for you dude. go watch gilmore girls reruns or something
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For me "Preacher" was the biggest disappointment this TV seasonin hindsight though I shouldn't have been surprised given the fact that Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg were involved
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Re: Okay, can we all just agree that was bad writing?
Everyone knew she couldn't stand Miles.. Killing him is different..