The Flash : Danielle and promoting

Why did she Promote Snowbarry that much? Did she think they were going to be love Interest?

And don't forget the fact. It's all she talked in her interviews.

At the time, Snowbarry was getting a bit of a fanbase before the series started and people, including Danielle probably, were hoping that it'd be Olicity 2.0. As in, having the focus shift from the original main love interests (Laurel/Oliver on Arrow and Barry/Iris on The Flash) and shifting it to the hero being in love with the "quirky, cute, smart girl" (Felicity on Arrow and Caitlin on The Flash).

Didn't work because the writers actually stuck to their guns despite the initial mixed reaction to Iris in season 1.

Hooking up with Barry equals more of a purpose on the show like what happened with Felicity on Arrow. And given the frequent lack of a storylines for Caitlin other than the ill-fated romances, I'm not surprised that Danielle pushed for it to happen.

Luckily for her, though, she now has her own storyline with Killer Frost and maybe a possible thing with Julian.

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I used to cringe and side eye her every time she did that. Then Carlos would always say he shipped Snowstorm. He and Candice both had weird looks on their faces in an interview they did and she talked about it. I think she wanted that because despite what others will say, Barry's main love interest is more relevant than Caitlin.

There is no Flash without Iris West.

I had no idea shee promotrd snowbarry. But one of the things that led me to believe snobarry wasn't going to happen was the simple fact that they had no story. Superhero stories has a formulae to them. Their love interest is kept in the dark as far as their alter ego. Their love interest tend to have a crush on the superhero. In the three years this show has been on I don't remember Caitlin ever being in awe of the flash which is a big clue. To this day Iris is still in awe of the flash it never gets old for her. There is certain tenets in a superhero that make them work. Those tenets were never there with Caitlin. But if someone to believe their story will work they have the right to. But writers don't like complication you would have to really sit and think hard to come up with a snowbarry story. There are not going waste their time when they have stories that literally tell themselves

I actually think Barry and Caitlin have more sexual chemistry. Barry and Iris (or the actors) really do come off as a close brother and sister, or close friends.

I wouldn't mind Barry and Caitlin hooking up. Although Caitlin is a black widow of sorts. Every man she has been in a relationship either dies (BOTH versions of Ronny) or reveals themself as a murderous psychopath.

You wouldn't mind Barry and Caitlin hooking up just for the sake of hooking up? What is the point of that exactly? To play out your fantasy? There is absolutely no reason for a Barry/Caitlin anything because it does not fit and would only clearly be for fan service. It would truly destroy the show's reputation and it is still recovering from the whole Patty mess.

Don't get me started on that Patty BS.

Bad casting aside, Patty made sense. She is a canon love interest aside and it showed that even if Barry is in a relationship, he'd always choose Iris.

Good job Oscars! Hopefully Asian and Hispanic nominees in 2018!

Not to be mean but caitlin acted like barry mother in season one

And then we had Patty looking like his mother is season two. I honestly believe the casting person had a few breaks in the bathroom with the pipe when they cast Patty. Either that, or Grant de-aged a bit in season two. I think I missed half of season two because I was using the fast forward button and cringing a lot.

There's this picture of Grant, Danielle, and Shantel that I swear looks like a mom with her kids. Shantel was grossly miscast as Pathetic Patty. I missed A LOT of 2A because of her.

There is no Flash without Iris West.

What's wrong with Barry hooking up with a girl who looks like a Milf?

I'm sensing blatant ageism.

Nothing. Plus, if you think Shantel looks like's Grant's mom, you're probably a blind retard.
The shipper bias on this board has reached Arrow levels.

The Emperor has no clothes.

Sorry! That's just our opinion.

There is no Flash without Iris West.

Well it's a bad opinion, since it shames women for looking a little older.
A lot of men actually really like/prefer the look of an older woman. It can be very sexy.

While I'm glad you agree not to discount Patty just because she looks a little older, using the word "retard" as a slur is no better because it demeans and devalues an entire class of people (the mentally disabled).

There are plenty of other good insults to choose from which don't have that unintended effect.

If anyone's off, it's Barry who looks too young.
I'm on the spectrum. The "r-word" debacle is patronizing bullcrap.

The Emperor has no clothes.

It might be to you, its effects are undeniable it is demeaning to a class of people.

The writers do not care mediocre chemistry don't tell stories and thats what snowbarry has Maybe if snowbarry had undeniable chemistry they might be tempted. But despite what some of you think they dont. Great chemistry tell their own stories and there wouldn't need to be forced. Snowbarry story will be forced. The actors don't look comfortable with each other. If the actors shine together the writers would not be able to deny it. Snowbarry chemistry is far far from being on the level where it would be worth it for the writers to take a detour and go in that direction. There is simply not enough there, there.

Yes, she promoted that mess. Here's one example and there are more.


You can watch the whole thing, but the moment is at 4:50. Look at Carlos and Candice.

There is no Flash without Iris West.

Carlos' reaction was *beep* priceless. I'm crying. lol

haha, I'd loved his reaction

Carlos' reaction gave me life. Lol.

There is no Flash without Iris West.

Thanks for the link

My advice to her When ou have chemistry it speaks for itself. We don't have to be told that you have chemistry. But hey if she wants to embarass she is free to do so

I like her but she is so perky. she always want to be the one to speak

She needs to be careful which story she's promoting witers don't like that kind of stuff.

I feel so bad for her fans. she give them so much hope

In one interview, she actually said that Caitlin had "options". I was like, WHERE? Barry doesn't want Caitlin.



There is no Flash without Iris West.

This kind of behavior with actors bugs me. She has a story is important but its not enough for her she wants to unsurp someone else. People like that you watch your back with them. They are opportunist. Question Is Grant also promoting Snowbarry?

Thanks

Grant has never promoted Snowbarry.

There is no Flash without Iris West.

I feel so bad for her fans. she give them so much hope

I agree. She knew the premise when she signed out, so I won't feel an ounce of pity if they turn on her.

She saw what happened to Arrow and knew that shipper pandering would garner her a little cult to worship her. That's what happens to love interest actresses on a cw show. They become reduced to being the love interest or the one they want as the love interest. Arrow has an entire cult of people only watching for their shipping habits. It's sickening.

The Emperor has no clothes.

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Why did she Promote Snowbarry that much? Did she think they were going to be love Interest?

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Entire point of watching a tv show is not-knowing what happens next. If she flat out said "nope, nothing will happen" a lot of "will-they won't they" crowd would stop watching. I think she was building up hopes as sort of red herring.
The same way actors in other shows talk, the are suppose to enhance suspence not answer questions

Except in this case we KNOW the outcome. If her fans want to be delusional its on them but if you are someone who feed that delusion you may be causing them to spill their anger elsewhere. This explains the Iris hate post now I know I can't take them and their BS seriously.

Not really. I mean of course we know canonical outcome but as Arrow proved comics are not the ultimate authority (which is what keeps Snowbarry alive). So throwing a bone to Snowbarry fans helps to keep numbers up. Showrunners do not want people to stop watching a show so they will tease (or tell actors to tease) something just to keep viewers in front of a tv.

I do not know if you remember but there was a rather strong Clana (as in Clark and Lana) following in Smallville despite every Superman fan in existence knowing who Lois Lane is.

People always say this because a fanbase is loud there are plenty of them me I need proof. I doubt the showrunner are telling DP to go and promote snowbarry. Especially since contradicts where they are going. But I do now believe she has someone there whose coatails she is riding on so sheis not worried about being fired. So much for merit and talent getting you the gig.

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me I need proof.

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I work in opposite way, I need proof of malicious intent without it I assume normal everyday behavior. Sure it contradicts what writers are saying in a show but that it basically my point, DP is giving hope to SnowBarry shippers because, without it, they may stop watching. It is amazing but sometimes such a small wink can give people reason to watch another few episodes because maybe SnowBarry will happen!

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she has someone there whose coatails she is riding on so sheis not worried about being fired. So much for merit and talent getting you the gig.

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I think you are being deeply unfair to DP, just because you do not like her shippers is not a good reason to make such claims. She is not a bad actress and has as good (if not better) cv as other CW stars.

I dunno. Judging by that video linked earlier, it looks like poor Carlos got a different memo.

Carlos represented everybody watching the show with sight and sense. I don't give a leaping fvck about her resume.

There is no Flash without Iris West.

She's also got one of the more impressive resumes of any of the actors on the show, and EASILY the most impressive of the younger actors. If the show's creators randomly decided to kill Caitlin in the next episode, DP would be fine.

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She's also got one of the more impressive resumes of any of the actors on the show, and EASILY the most impressive of the younger actors. If the show's creators randomly decided to kill Caitlin in the next episode, DP would be fine.

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Candice can only dream of getting roles beyond Danielle's resume. The jealously is strong with this one.

And Candice's stans are still clinging to their own insecurity I see.

But to be honest danielle can't act. she's okay sometimes thou.

She's gorgeous, but has little range and often does not seem comfortable.

Good job Oscars! Hopefully Asian and Hispanic nominees in 2018!

There were signs in season 1 that the writers were MAYBE considering making Snowbarry a (temporary?) thing (the biggest one being the karaoke episode where they had Barry help Caitlin take her dress off, and then had him command her to "get in bed") so maybe they were feeling the relationship out and that's where she was getting that from, but it became pretty obvious by the end of season 1 they were sticking with WestAllen. Has she promoted Snowbarry since then?

And I'm with Carlos, I've always been a Snowstorm fan.

What the hell is a Stiles?

I'm sorry, but no. If they were feeling the relationship out, they would have had them go on a date. They could've said that since they're both single, they can date each other. They did not. They had him meet Linda. Him helping her when she was drunk is what a friend/Barry would do.

Yes, she has promoted Snowbarry since then. The latest was her finally admitting that nothing was there between Barry and Caitlin and that they're like brother and sister. Then she said that Snowbarry fans need to let Westallen have this because they have to explore that first before anything can happen with Snowbarry. Who in their right mind thinks Barry will get with Caitlin after Iris? She keeps giving them false hope. She has finally shut up about it.

There is no Flash without Iris West.

Hopefully she doesn't bring it back.

You are assuming the actors know much more about what happens in the show than you do. I know on Agents of SHIELD, the actors said they are at most 3 episodes ahead of their fans. Maybe she legitimately shipped them (like many people on this forum) and shared her enthusiasm with her fans. In her defense there were a few scattered "snowbarry" moments in the show for fans of the pair to hang their hopes on, and Arrow has demonstrated that comic book canon doesn't necessarily translate to show canon.

She wouldn't be the first actor to ship their character with someone they didn't end up with. I certainly wouldn't accuse her of intentionally manipulating fans.

It's just a theory. Part of the reason Olicity became a thing and Laurel got kicked to the curb was because, for some reason, people ate up any little interaction between them (looking at you, Tumblrettes). It's possible they threw in scenes showing Barry and Caitlin getting closer (without actually explicitly showing romance, because that would've been more complicated to deal with if/when they ended up having Barry drop her for Iris or whatever) to see what people thought. Rightfully, they realized that the general consensus is WestAllen is better, so they dropped it and had Barry go out with other people who would be easy to get rid of. Like I said, just a theory, but I don't think it's entirely implausible that's what happened.

In any case, it doesn't really matter, as it's silly to think Snowbarry is going to happen now, so hopefully she's dropped that hope for good. Barry has been in love with Iris since he was a child, so unless she dies (not happening) he's not leaving her and getting with Caitlin. Sorry Danielle, the thought is laughable.

What the hell is a Stiles?

I have wondered if her early and ongoing Snowbarry promotion had caused bad blood between her and CP. I've been noticing for some time now that Iris and Caitlin rarely stand close to one another or have any significant interaction. The last time I saw those two women have any significant interaction was in 2x18. Now, it's like they rarely have dialogue with each other.

Take, for example, the housewarming party in 3x10. Iris hugs Wally, she then hugs Cisco. Caitlin is right behind Cisco with flowers. Iris bypasses Caitlin and hugs her dad. That looked odd to me. As hostess, Iris should have at least thanked Caitlin for the flowers, but nope, nothing.

Let me be clear, I am not saying that CP is making that choice. I'm thinking the directors are telling these two to avoid significant contact for reasons behind the scenes. Whoever is blocking the scenes (blocking is just positioning the actors) is also making sure these women almost never stand next to each other. Just start paying attention and you'll notice the pattern.