The Flash : Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
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That's the thing that gets me. They all would have done the same thing. Cisco still wanted Barry to save Dante even after hearing how Flashpoint messed things up. He didn't care about the consequences. Another thing I'm curious about in the timeline they're in now. Because when Barry came back in "Paradox" he barely looked or talked to him. Does that mean Cisco was still pissed at Barry for not saving Dante even after he watched his father get killed in front of him?
Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
Sometimes when people are grieving, they don't make sense. Their grief overtakes their logic. Now when Cisco looks at Barry, he sees the man who possibly, though indirectly, created the changes to the timeline that caused his brother's death. Like you said, it's not easy to get over. It's hard to get past that image and think a rational thought like "Well it's not like Barry KNEW he was going to basically kill my brother with his time traveling." It doesn't matter whether or not Barry knew it was going to happen, the point is it did and and the end of the day it's partially Barry's fault. I do hope Cisco is able to move on eventually, but I understand his feelings right now.
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Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
People who drink and drive don't plan on killing people. But when they do, people don't let them off the hook. Barry KNEW how dangerous it was to mess with the time line and he did it anyway. He killed Cisco's brother.
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Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
With that line of logic, Barry was also responsible for Dante and Cisco getting kidnapped in season one.
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Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
No it is not. Barry was warned not to go into the past and change things. He was even warned by himself NOT to do it. He did it anyway. Those actions had ramifications. A baby is wiped out of ever being, a man is dead, there is a new super villain that as some connection with flash point that is recking the lives of many people, and the list goes on . Barry did this.
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Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
The problem is the effects he regrets are not because he changed time, but because he tried to reset it, he was never warned that once events change they cant be fully unchanged, Barry didn't know the ramifications of his actions because these effects were never explained to him, the changes he caused by changing things aka Flashpoint he was given the greenlight to do so in S1, by Cisco & the others none of whom considered the ramifications beyond their own lives, so it is kind of unfair to blame Barry.
Also we don't yet know what Barry is to blame for, multiple things could be due to Savitar, hell some could have been inevitable, Caitlyn and Dante may have happened the same exact way in the normal timeline, we don't know though because Barry jumped to the same time he was in at Flashpoint in this timeline, we have no clue what happened in the original timeline during that period.
Also we don't yet know what Barry is to blame for, multiple things could be due to Savitar, hell some could have been inevitable, Caitlyn and Dante may have happened the same exact way in the normal timeline, we don't know though because Barry jumped to the same time he was in at Flashpoint in this timeline, we have no clue what happened in the original timeline during that period.
Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
I dont watch often..but when I do he seems to be having a hissy fit over somebody
Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
I'm also not sure why he's so mad at Caitlin. In the previous episode he understood that Killer Frost took over and was willing to help her. He wasn't mad at her.
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Me neither.
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Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
Why do you think he's mad at Caitlin?
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Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
he's not mad at her, he just met her suggestion of drinks with barry with derision. at what other point did you get the idea he was mad at her?
Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
His behaviour in the crossover tonight was appalling. He can't get passed his anger for the better of the team. Forcing Barry to tell them about the tape while they were occupied with something else and just generally having a hissy fit when they are all facing a serious threat and need their concentration. Although in the end they are lucky that Cisco did cause everyone to get pissed at Barry or he and Oliver would have ended up mind controlled too.
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I feel like the longer this anger at Barry (though somewhat justified) keeps up, the less sympathetic people will be to Cisco to the point where they just want him to shut up, especially if they're not gonna try and talk it out a bit more. There's only so long he can drag out this grudge before it gets really annoying and people just say "dude, let it go."
Though I also feel like everything will eventually be forgiven by the end of this season, if not sooner.
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Though I also feel like everything will eventually be forgiven by the end of this season, if not sooner.
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Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
He needs to get over it already. This plotline is zzzzzzzzz.
Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
You think it's bad now with Cisco, wait till they also learn that flash is responsible for the Legends mysterious speedster. For bringing back Eobard Thawne and unleashing him on the timeline where he's still actively changing it and causing havoc.
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But wasn't Thawne still alive somehow by some time loophole halfway through season 2?
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Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
Upon rewatching some episodes, I realized that Cisco's original gripe with Barry was him choosing not to go back in time to prevent Dante's death, and he sorta got over it but then things got worse when Caitlin revealed he was alive before Barry created Flashpoint. It was also mentioned that it was only "a few months" since the accident and also in that time Caitlin noticed she was getting her powers. In both timelines the particle accelerator explosion still happened.
For Dante, I wonder if the issue there was that he died in an accident the same night Barry went back and saved his mother at the end of season 2. Could be the same time Caitlin's powers started manifesting.
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For Dante, I wonder if the issue there was that he died in an accident the same night Barry went back and saved his mother at the end of season 2. Could be the same time Caitlin's powers started manifesting.
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Re: Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?
Barry purposefully knew a drunk driver would kill his brother
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Cisco being mad at Barry makes not much sense?