Predator 2 : Failure due to casting of Glover

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ToastedCheese said... I take my cues from you dopey.
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You take nothing from me.

All the repetitive, moronic nonsense you post is yours alone.

Sucks to be you.



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Dave Newport said... You take nothing from me.

All the repetitive, moronic nonsense you post is yours alone.

Sucks to be you.

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Sucks to be you. Your avatar matches your bipolar disorder.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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ToastedCheese said... Sucks to be you. Your avatar matches your bipolar disorder.
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I understand you're upset that I'm so easily pwning you.

But when you're so upset that you can't come up with your own material and begin making bogus psychological diagnoses, you should just stop.

You're humiliating yourself.

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Dave Newport said... I understand you're upset that I'm so easily pwning you.

But when you're so upset that you can't come up with your own material and begin making bogus psychological diagnoses, you should just stop.

You're humiliating yourself.
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No one gives a rats what you think, least of all me. You can’t even own your own mental and aggression disorders. Have your meds run out, or perhaps they aren’t strong enough?!

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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ToastedCheese said... No one gives a rats what you think, least of all me. You can’t even own your own mental and aggression disorders. Have your meds run out, or perhaps they aren’t strong enough?!
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No one gives a rats what you think, least of all me. You can’t even own your own mental and aggression disorders. Have your meds run out, or perhaps they aren’t strong enough?!
I don't have any disorders.

You, however, are clearly falling apart.




"No one gives a rats"?



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Dave Newport said...
No one gives a rats what you think, least of all me. You can’t even own your own mental and aggression disorders. Have your meds run out, or perhaps they aren’t strong enough?!
I don't have any disorders.

You, however, are clearly falling apart.




"No one gives a rats"?

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Your autism doesn't allow any room for lateral thinking. Mix that in with your bipolar disorder and an eruption of inanity will ensue.

Now don't forget….



Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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ToastedCheese said... Your autism doesn't allow any room for lateral thinking. Mix that in with your bipolar disorder and an eruption of inanity will ensue.

Now don't forget….

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TC, the defeated whiny bean counter shows his anger. ^

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Dave Newport said... TC, the defeated whiny bean counter shows his anger. ^
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Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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Successful enough though to keep on spawning sequels and ridiculous spinoffs such as AvP etc.

"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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It had a concept that has failed to work too much magic, but gets churned out anyway. Depends who's watching them. I personally don't care for any of the predator films after the second.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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The only one I like out of all of them is Predators, the one with Adrian Brody where they end up on a planet for sport by the predators.
I was expecting a sequel but I guess that is not to be.

IMO the worst is Predator Requiem where the whole thing is just dumb and it is too friggen dark to see anything and what is going on.

A very close second would be AvP where suggesting the Predators breed captured Aliens for the sport of hunting them under the Antarctic ice makes it way too unbelievable even for sci fi.

"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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I didn't like Predator Requiem - '07 at all. The worst one. It was just a paint by numbers presentation with no soul. I also don't care much for Predators - '10 with Brody. The concept was interesting, but I just found it difficult to get fully invested or be awed by it.

As for The Predator - '18, which I thought may have had some redemption, I can barely recall it.

The first got it right with the super duper tough guy action hero fighting off the monster and it seamlessly blended a combat film in with a sci-fi creature feature.

This second installment, took a vibrant stylish approach with awesome visuals, nasty voodoo and some well executed excitement, but lacked a little something in the casting arena, with the predator vs a genuine tough guy hero. This aspect disappointed audiences, who obviously flocked to the first because of Arnie.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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I'm not a fan.
I just checked them out here and there when I saw them on TV.

Do you have any interest at all in the newest one of Pred. vs Amer. Indians?

Again, I might watch it if I come across it out of curiosity on the tele.

"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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Haven't heard of that. Must be a "woke" predator movie by the sound of it.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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Exactly.

And get this.
It is going to be a woman who is terrible at doing pretty much anything who takes it on.

If this had been in the 50's the Pred. would have wiped out whole tribes and we would have been cheering it on unlike now where it's the opposite.

"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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Prey

Looks like crud.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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"Glover is a fine actor, but he was not leading man material and could not sell this film. It looks and sounds great and is a fine sequel in its own right, but its missing the beefcake type hero and Glover seems to be trying too hard to make it all work as an image. "

That is kinda the point of the movie, I think.
Take an average Joe and have him defeat a cunning enemy.
IMO this works instead of having the usual suspects of action stars.

"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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That is kinda the point of the movie, I think.
Take an average Joe and have him defeat a cunning enemy.
IMO this works instead of having the usual suspects of action stars.
That ended up being the director's intention, but it didn't quite end up ringing box office bells either by that decision. For me, I find Glover a little lost trying to carry the film. He had Gibson to round him out in Lethal Weapon films.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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We got an excellent story with "average Joe" Glover in the lead.

Try not to worry your little head about box office. It's such trivial stuff and it's weird you're so obsessed with it for P2.

Did you have a financial investment in P2?

Did you have a friendly wager?

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Try not to worry your little head about box office. It's such trivial stuff and it's weird you're so obsessed with it for P2.
Box office is the point of my op. I don't believe Glover fitted like a glove and he was not a box office drawcard.

The director wanted his own vision at the expense of making a more popular film, with a more gutsy, tough guy hero action.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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I and many other Predator fans are glad Glover played the lead. It made for a superior story. It worked much better than if he had used someone like Segal or Van Damme.

Whine about box office all you want. Glover as the lead made it a better film.



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It worked much better than if he had used someone like Segal or Van Damme.
Now who is speculating.

It worked to a certain extent. It didn't entirely work, because Glover left it a little flat.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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Now who is speculating.
Just try imagining them in the role.

If you're honest with yourself, you'll realize Glover's every man was perfect.

Box office is a different story. If you truly believe those others would have brought in more box office, you should still be able to admit Glover worked really well as the cop dealing with something from another world.

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If you're honest with yourself, you'll realize Glover's every man was perfect.
Why did the film need an everyman. Oh, he played a cop, how original…..


Why would they spend an extra $15mill on the budget compared to the original, refuse to pay Arnie what he wanted, which apparently wasn't much more in fiscal context and then cast someone that they couldn't really headline above the title?

They took a chance on Glover and the choice fizzed. Shortsighted and agenda drenched Fox company decision in the end.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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The bean counter doubles down on his whining. ^




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Glover failed to come through with goods. Woke casting, for woke gits!

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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Glover failed to come through with goods. Woke casting, for woke gits!
You certainly don't mind humiliating yourself with repetition and desperate talk about bean counting.

Did you lose a bet or something? You're really acting strange.

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Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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Partly agree.

Movie would have been flawed either way but it feels really odd with Glover as the lead. He’s cool but his type of charisma wasn’t a good fit.

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Movie would have been flawed either way but it feels really odd with Glover as the lead. He’s cool but his type of charisma wasn’t a good fit.


I didn't expect a masterpiece from a film like this, yet Glover's leading presence grated on me a bit when I last watched it. It was "odd" and that is a fitting term.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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He strangely turned out to be a good pick for the lead. For those who havent watched it would say no.

Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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He wasn't a great pick though and that is my point.

And there are those that have watched it, have been let down. Many fans had the image of Arnie from the first and it disappointed them that he wasn't in it. It was never going to hold up as well.

Audiences would very likely have flocked to it, had another bigger action star headlined the film.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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That wasnt the point of the film. This one was slightly more realistic in the sense that the made the Predator even badder, more aggressive, and bigger. He was the star as it shouldve been had a moron like Arnold not taken over. The Predator was never meant to be an Arnold film but a Predator Film. Since he came over they bought the idea of selling out but that wasnt the original concept. The Film is supposed to revolve around Predator. There is plenty of other films that Arnold can do that he can take over. Predator was not one of them as you can see with the follow ups. Many fans are brain dead idiots that would like to see a meathead( them in their minds) kill a big savage beast. In reality the outcome might not be so favorable.

Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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Predator 2 is a decent sequel for a predator film, but it could have been better, had Glover not been in the lead. He could have still starred, but his name didn't carry the film to any resounding results. It works and it doesn't and Glover seemed a bit of a strange choice to carry the film.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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Predator 2 is a decent sequel for a predator film, but it could have been better, had Glover not been in the lead. He could have still starred, but his name didn't carry the film to any resounding results. It works and it doesn't and Glover seemed a bit of a strange choice to carry the film.
You need to tattoo this nonsense on your forehead, whiny bean counter racist.

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Ok, you other racist, who is in denial of Glover not making Predator 2 explode like Arnie could and did in the first.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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Still whining. ^

I'm not a racist. Stop lying. Just whine more.



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You are the biggest "other" racist on here and in denial of your blackness.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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Your I.Q. is continuing to regress.

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Your I.Q. is non-existent. You won't ever get a job as a casting agent.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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You shouldn't try to diss other people's I.Q.

It makes you look dumber than dirt.

BTW, I assure you my I.Q. is very high.

Evidence that yours is very low is borne out by how terrible you're doing against me.

Your performance is ghastly and you don't even realize it.



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Are you under the influence?

If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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Not in the least. And you have no reason to suspect I am. Have you seen me make any non-lucid posts here?

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Dave Newport said... Not in the least. And you have no reason to suspect I am. Have you seen me make any non-lucid posts here?
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Are you fit to be tied?

If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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He's got aggro issues and likely born out of excessive alcohol or depressant consumption. It makes him disorientated and toxic.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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ToastedCheese said... He's got aggro issues and likely born out of excessive alcohol or depressant consumption. It makes him disorientated and toxic.
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I was just teasing

If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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Cheeky said... I was just teasing
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You can tie him up like the hog that he is….

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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ToastedCheese said... You can tie him up like the hog that he is….
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If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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ToastedCheese said... He's got aggro issues and likely born out of excessive alcohol or depressant consumption. It makes him disorientated and toxic.
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He's got aggro issues and likely born out of excessive alcohol or depressant consumption. It makes him disorientated and toxic.
Bizarre. Speculation is all you do.

And you're wrong every time.

Let's see….so far, you've incorrectly guessed that I'm a woke angry black man with excessive alcohol or depressant consumption.

With a track record that bad, people are going to have fun guessing what your problem is.

Most should start with assuming you're definitely disorientated and toxic.



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Dave Newport said...
He's got aggro issues and likely born out of excessive alcohol or depressant consumption. It makes him disorientated and toxic.
Bizarre. Speculation is all you do.

And you're wrong every time.

Let's see….so far, you've incorrectly guessed that I'm a woke angry black man with excessive alcohol or depressant consumption.

With a track record that bad, people are going to have fun guessing what your problem is.

Most should start with assuming you're definitely disorientated and toxic.

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You still haven’t told me why Predator 2 failed, apart from the main reason I’ve already stated in casting Glover as lead.

Your ass was born wrong.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?
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