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Blacks reaffirm their hatred for gay people

The only thing that explains Pete Buttigieg’s poor polling numbers among African American voters.

Why must they be so homophobic? Very disappointed in the black community.

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Homophobic? A misnomer. Phobia implies fear and I doubt many are actually afraid. Disgusted or revolted by perhaps… much as your racism is revolting Lep.

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ho·mo·pho·bic

adjective
having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

Nope sorry, try again. Blacks have historically shown a prejudice against homosexuality, this is a fact that can’t be argued.

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You see. The definition doesn't even match the word. This word has been mis-defined

having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against

sounds more like the denition of Bias, from the french 'biais'

Calling it homobiais would be far more accurate.

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You’re an idiot, please go away.

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Or perhaps we shouldn't mix French and Latin. How about Homorevuls? Homoavertere? Which one do you think best defines a sense of abject disgust?

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Don’t you get tired of toggling between your MovieManCin2 account and this one?

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How do you know?

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The writing style is completely different.

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You’re right, his writing style is exactly like Yermon who follows him around to every thread and agrees with every word that comes out of his mouth.

I still say he’s Venom as they hold the same opinion 99.9% of the time and both have similar agendas, even if the writing styles are different.

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Es posible.

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No, it's a classic phobia.

Look at the root of the words: homo (same) + phobia (fear), fear of the same. Heterosexual males are afraid and paranoid of being labelled homosexual. It's not that they're afraid of gay people. But the idea that another male might look at their butt and desire them, that sends shivers down their spine. Sorry, homophobia is a classic phobia in every sense of the word.

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Being Gay isn’t tolerated among the black community, you get ostracized for doing so. The phobia behind it took off during the AIDS crisis in the 80’s when scores of people were rapidly dying and dying fast from it. Blacks who were more poor were at a greater risk and hence a “phobia” towards Gay people took shape.

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Well I was trying to explain to God's panther that homophobia is a classic fear or "phobia" in psychiatric terms.

But I'm white and I can tell you that homophobia is just as prominent among whites even if the white middle class is more civilized about it. Most white heterosexuals will not vote for an openly gay man as congressman, let alone president.

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Please, can we leave my old handle out of this?

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Why? Are you ashamed of your past?

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It took me a great deal of time to think up a decent handle. It's not so much that I mind its use but prefer that it be done so in context. For example when speaking specifically of the past.

Imagine that you take a job flipping burgers while studying to be a lawyer. Years later while practicing law I'd assume that you'd prefer to be addresses treated and though of as a lawyer and not a fry cook.

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Okay, very well, I can respect that. It's just when you started posting as Soul Venom many were assuming you were a sock and there was speculation as to whose sock. It helps to verify you were a known poster on IMDb.

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In my defense the sort of people who typically accuse me of being a sock are the likes of Lep of Oxford so,… yeah. That guy is so legitimately stupid. At first I though the guy was just trolling but now…

It's like that old saying about some people who are just putting us on vs other who really mean it.

Lep posts really, really retarded stuff and he means it.

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Sock speculation is mostly harmless gossip and that will always take place on message boards. I heard you are the sock of MovieManCin2, Project Error, to name a few. I know for a fact you are neither. Lol.

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The phobia behind it took off during the AIDS crisis in the 80’s when scores of people were rapidly dying and dying fast from it.

It predates the AIDS crisis. It goes all of the way back to slavery when many black men were chained, whipped, and stripped of their masculinity.

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The seeds were spread back then for sure, but until the AIDS crisis took off it’s not like the black community feared homosexuality. Once black men started dropping like flies a phobia took shape and still exists today, although not quite as prominent as medicine has vastly improved.

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Now see I just have to disagree. What I feel is far more akin to disgust or revulsion. It's not too dissimilar from my abject hatred of coffee.

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Coffee can't objectify you. As a male you're afraid of being treated like a piece of meat and raped.

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I'm wired a little different. If I were to contemplate such a fate I skip straight to rage and a strong desire to kill. Were anyone to ever do such a thing they would have to kill me or forever sleep with one eye open. Even if they kill me it is no guarantee. I have a father and brother who while not as hardcore as I certainly would not be inclined to just let it go.

However as far as mere objectification goes I stand by my original statement.

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Obviously, if you were attacked you would do as I would do, fight to kill.

I'm talking about what I've observed among straight males when they think another man is looking at them sexually. They usually see it as an affront to their dignity. That's where it crosses over into a "phobia". If another man or a woman think I'm attractive, I'm flattered. Many straight males on the other hand get angry. That's a "phobia".

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You say fear I say anger and disgust. Either way I see nothing wrong with it. People are entitled to feel however they want.

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Sure. Some of my best friends IRL are homophobes. Lol. I'm just saying the word is the correct term and it is a real phobia.

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Blacks are still stuck in old Democratic Party machine politics. They support old school Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. I doubt most blacks know who is Buttigieg or that he is gay. Tulsi Gabbard also polled low among blacks. New names don't appeal to black Democrats.

But black, whites, browns, Americans in general are not going to elect a gay president.

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New names don't appeal to black Democrats.

They do if the candidates are saying what the people want to hear.

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Do you think homophobia is more prominent among blacks than whites? I know that masculine black gay guys tend to be very paranoid and on the downlow. But flaming black queens seem to be accepted as funny clowns. Am I right or wrong?

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No, I just mean that effeminate gay black men tend to be very animated and have a brash sarcastic wit, like black women. Ru Paul is a clown, face it. I don't mean that in a negative sense.

But you didn't answer my question whether or not blacks are more homophobic than whites?

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I live in a conservative Southwestern state, so it's not just black men who are homophobic around here.

We have the Latino machismo culture who hate gays, the white roughneck cowboy types who hate gays, and the hypermasculine black men who hate gays. So homophobia isn't exclusive to one group nor is it more prevalent in another.

Flaming queens in this neck of the woods are just as reviled and intolerable as the rest of the gays, as far these guys are concerned.

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But you mentioned white rednecks. I'm not sure blacks are any more homophobic than whites.

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Re-read what I just posted.

So homophobia isn't exclusive to one group nor is it more prevalent in another.

I'm saying that homophobia is spread equally across the board. By the way, a "roughneck" is different from your runofthemill, backwoods hillbilly redneck. A roughneck is generally a guy who works on an oil rig. We have a lot of oil rigs out this way.

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Okay, sorry.

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It's no problem. smile.gif

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It's just that I keep seeing that title "Blacks reaffirm their hatred for gay people" and no one has satisfactorily explained why they're any different than white people.

Am I wrong or are effeminate black men like Ru Paul more accepted by blacks?

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No, effeminate black men get more hatred because of their overtly flamboyant nature. That's why a lot of gay/bisexual black men choose to remain on the downlow.

I've witnessed my gay friends (both black and white) get verbally and physically harassed by heterosexual men of their own respective races.

To answer your question…

They aren't any different than white people when it comes to the prevalence of homophobia within our community. However, black people are more apt to openly express their hatred of gays than white people, who choose to do so more covertly.

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I think there's a class difference as well. White rednecks are overtly homophobic. The white middle class puts on an act of tolerance.

Okay, and in regard to black lesbians. I have a good black lesbian friend. Through her I've socialized with several black lesbians. I get the impression that blacks are more tolerant of lesbians than whites.

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I think there's a class difference as well. White rednecks are overtly homophobic. The white middle class puts on an act of tolerance.

I agree.

The bourgeois upper middle class blacks are similar to upper middle class whites when it comes to superficial displays of tolerance, especially towards homosexuals.

But outright blatant intolerance seems to be a more frequent occurrence within all racial categories, when you go further down the economic ladder.

Most black men view lesbians as either "one of the guys" or a potential sexual conquest that they can "turn straight". Unless of course, she's trying to go after his girl. Then she becomes that manly ass bulldagger (bulldyker).

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That blacks are more homophobic than other groups is an illusion. They just feel more at ease expressing their feelings since they are also a privileged minority group.

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Yoo-hoo Corndog, look at Buttigieg’s polling numbers…..blacks clearly have more of an issue with him being gay than whites, Latino’s, or Asians do.

Just google “Pete Buttigieg’s lack of support from the black community” and you will see dozens of articles from the top news sources confirming everything I just said.

Are you in stage 4 denial?

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Go ahead with your topic because later on when you least expect it, I'll throw up in your face problems happening specifically related to your culture.

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I don’t believe in culture, it holds people back. You can have your holidays and routines but holding beliefs just because people who look like you say so? Ummm no thanks

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Except for the blacks who are gay themselves

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Naw, there's plenty not to like about Buttigieg. He's, frankly, another hyper-entitled white guy who went to Harvard. If he weren't gay, he would NEVER have gotten this far.
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