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Paquito D'Rivera, famous Cuban jazz musician, wrote this letter to Mayor Bloomberg with regard to Che Guevara Statue located in New York’s Central Park. He never received a response from the mayor's office. He asks us to feel free to make it public.

January 5-2009

Dearest Mayor Bloomberg:

In the mid-fifties, still a young child, my father came home with a fabulous Benny Goodman LP, recorded live at Carnegie Hall in 1938. Ever since I’ve dreamed to be a working musician in the city of New York. What I never, ever dreamed, not even in my wildest nightmares, was that after having to join two million Cuban exiles in 1980, I was going to see a sad statue of Che Guevara, a couple of blocks away from the glorious sculpture of Cuban National hero Jose Martí at New York’s Central Park.

“The butcher of La Cabaña fortress”, as was the nickname of this lamentable Argentinean character, Guevara ––a self-proclaimed enemy of the USA–– was responsible for countless murders and abuses in my homeland as well as in other countries, where he tried to impose totalitarian regimes by the law of his guns. So, although I heard that the ridiculous Spanish made sculpture is meant to be just temporarily at the spot on 60th street and 5th avenue, that doesn’t mean it had been less offensive than having a Stalin monument in Orchard Beach, a Hitler portrait on the walls of Carnegie deli, or a representation of a man in KKK’s macabre rope next to the Duke Ellington’s memorial in Harlem.

So, I really hope that you feel some respect and compassion for your many Cuban supporters and sympathizers and remove ASAP such an anachronistic an insulting image from the surface of our beloved City.

Always with the same appreciation.

Sincerely:

Paquito D’Rivera

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Murder & Myth The Truth Behind The T Shirt

By Humberto Fontova

In a famous speech in 1961, Che Guevara denounced the very “spirit of rebellion” as “reprehensible.” “Youth must refrain from ungrateful questioning of governmental mandates,” commanded Guevara. “Instead, they must dedicate themselves to study, work and military service.” “Youth,” wrote Guevara, “should learn to think and act as a mass.”

“Those who choose their own path” (as in growing long hair and listening to “Yankee-Imperialist” Rock & Roll) were denounced as worthless “roqueros,” “lumpen” and “delinquents.” In his famous speech, Che Guevara even vowed “to make individualism disappear from Cuba! It is criminal to think in terms of individuals!”
Well, the youth in the island nowadays show their “spirit of rebellion” by growing long hair, listening to Rock & Roll and questioning the regime mandates. They act as individuals. This guy failed in practically everything.

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Murder & Myth The Truth Behind The T Shirt

By Humberto Fontova

In a famous speech in 1961, Che Guevara denounced the very “spirit of rebellion” as “reprehensible.” “Youth must refrain from ungrateful questioning of governmental mandates,” commanded Guevara. “Instead, they must dedicate themselves to study, work and military service.” “Youth,” wrote Guevara, “should learn to think and act as a mass.”

“Those who choose their own path” (as in growing long hair and listening to “Yankee-Imperialist” Rock & Roll) were denounced as worthless “roqueros,” “lumpen” and “delinquents.” In his famous speech, Che Guevara even vowed “to make individualism disappear from Cuba! It is criminal to think in terms of individuals!”
Well, the youth in the island nowadays show their “spirit of rebellion” by growing long hair, listening to Rock & Roll and questioning the regime mandates. They act as individuals. This guy failed in practically everything.
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Murder & Myth The Truth Behind The T Shirt

By Humberto Fontova


By the mid ’60s, the crime of a “rocker” lifestyle (blue jeans, long hair, fondness for the Beatles and Stones) or effeminate behavior got thousands of youths yanked out of Cuba’s streets and parks by secret police and dumped in prison camps with “Work Will Make Men Out of You” emblazoned in bold letters above the gate and with machine gunners posted on the watchtowers. The initials for these camps were UMAP, not GULAG, but the conditions were quite similar.

If the Castroist regime repressive apparatus found that you have Beatles records or that you listen to their music, they will send you to the UMAP.

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Murder & Myth The Truth Behind The T Shirt

By Humberto Fontova


By the mid ’60s, the crime of a “rocker” lifestyle (blue jeans, long hair, fondness for the Beatles and Stones) or effeminate behavior got thousands of youths yanked out of Cuba’s streets and parks by secret police and dumped in prison camps with “Work Will Make Men Out of You” emblazoned in bold letters above the gate and with machine gunners posted on the watchtowers. The initials for these camps were UMAP, not GULAG, but the conditions were quite similar.

If the Castroist regime repressive apparatus found that you have Beatles records or that you listen to their music, they will send you to the UMAP.
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Murder & Myth The Truth Behind The T Shirt

By Humberto Fontova


Ignorance, of course, accounts for much Che idolatry. But so does mendacity and wishful thinking, all of it boosted by reflexive anti-Americanism. The most popular version of the Che T-shirt, for instance, sports the slogan “fight oppression” under his famous countenance. This is the face of the second in command, chief executioner and chief KGB liaison for a regime that jailed political prisoners at a higher rate than Stalin’s and executed more people in its first three years in power than Hitler’s executed in its first three years in power than Hitler executed in his first six
If you're going to wear a T-shirt with someone's image on it, it seems like you should know more about the real person whose image you're sporting (and therefore sponsoring), like, say, Che Guevara.

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victorin1 said...
Murder & Myth The Truth Behind The T Shirt

By Humberto Fontova


Ignorance, of course, accounts for much Che idolatry. But so does mendacity and wishful thinking, all of it boosted by reflexive anti-Americanism. The most popular version of the Che T-shirt, for instance, sports the slogan “fight oppression” under his famous countenance. This is the face of the second in command, chief executioner and chief KGB liaison for a regime that jailed political prisoners at a higher rate than Stalin’s and executed more people in its first three years in power than Hitler’s executed in its first three years in power than Hitler executed in his first six
If you're going to wear a T-shirt with someone's image on it, it seems like you should know more about the real person whose image you're sporting (and therefore sponsoring), like, say, Che Guevara.
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Nick Gillespie Discusses Che Guevara on Glenn Beck (reason.com)

Reason.tv's Nick Gillespie appeared in a special, hour-long Glenn Beck Show documentary called "The Revolutionary Holocaust: Live Free…Or Die," which examines the historical atrocities of communist and socialist governments in the 20th century and the persistence of their leaders–especially Che Guevara and Mao Zedong–as cultural icons adorning T-shirts, liquor bottles, and other kitsch items. Gillespie discusses Che Guevara's role in the murderous Castro regime and demystifies a violent figure whose image is never more than a political rally, a Hollywood awards show, or even a greeting card away.

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The documentary "The Revolutionary Holocaust- Live Free.. or Die", is a good video with an excellent message. Che, Mao, Stalin, Hitler. What do they all have in common? They are all cold hearted, racist, killing machines. Che like any other communist leader, killed people who believed in simple freedom. Overthrowing one dictatorship to replace it with another is not heroic.

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Nick Gillespie Discusses Che Guevara on Glenn Beck (reason.com)

Reason.tv's Nick Gillespie appeared in a special, hour-long Glenn Beck Show documentary called "The Revolutionary Holocaust: Live Free…Or Die," which examines the historical atrocities of communist and socialist governments in the 20th century and the persistence of their leaders–especially Che Guevara and Mao Zedong–as cultural icons adorning T-shirts, liquor bottles, and other kitsch items. Gillespie discusses Che Guevara's role in the murderous Castro regime and demystifies a violent figure whose image is never more than a political rally, a Hollywood awards show, or even a greeting card away.

Video:[link]https//:vimeo.com/24621754[/link]
The documentary "The Revolutionary Holocaust- Live Free.. or Die", is a good video with an excellent message. Che, Mao, Stalin, Hitler. What do they all have in common? They are all cold hearted, racist, killing machines. Che like any other communist leader, killed people who believed in simple freedom. Overthrowing one dictatorship to replace it with another is not heroic.
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Reason.tv's take on Che Guevara and his contemporary fans, watch Killer Chic: Hollywood's Sick Love Affair With Che Guevara.

Killer Chic: Hollywood's Sick Love Affair with Che Guevara (reason.com)
The truth about Che Guevara. Know anyone wearing one of those t-shirts? You might want to show this video to them.

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Reason.tv's take on Che Guevara and his contemporary fans, watch Killer Chic: Hollywood's Sick Love Affair With Che Guevara.

Killer Chic: Hollywood's Sick Love Affair with Che Guevara (reason.com)
The truth about Che Guevara. Know anyone wearing one of those t-shirts? You might want to show this video to them.
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"Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy (breitbart.com)

It would take sixteen hours to even begin to inventory the problems of Steven Soderbergh’s “Che,” a bad movie about a bad guy, the Argentine Ernesto “Che” Guevara. The “Roadshow Edition” that I endured at the Nuart Theatre in Los Angeles, clocks in at 4 hrs, 23 minutes in length. The film is divided into two overlong parts, the first dealing with the Cuban Revolutionary War, the second dealing with Guevara’s Bolivian disaster.

An hour of this movie is tedious; four hours of it sends one into a coma deeper than that of Fidel himself. The guy sitting behind me at the Nuart who, judging from his intermission cell-phone conversation is an enthusiastic Che lover, snored during Che’s Bolivian martyrdom. So historical questions aside, does the movie succeed as entertainment? No. It bores.

Che, parts one and two doesn't say anything particularly interesting or contain any memorable moments. The fact is that we learn next to nothing about Cuba.

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"Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy (breitbart.com)

It would take sixteen hours to even begin to inventory the problems of Steven Soderbergh’s “Che,” a bad movie about a bad guy, the Argentine Ernesto “Che” Guevara. The “Roadshow Edition” that I endured at the Nuart Theatre in Los Angeles, clocks in at 4 hrs, 23 minutes in length. The film is divided into two overlong parts, the first dealing with the Cuban Revolutionary War, the second dealing with Guevara’s Bolivian disaster.

An hour of this movie is tedious; four hours of it sends one into a coma deeper than that of Fidel himself. The guy sitting behind me at the Nuart who, judging from his intermission cell-phone conversation is an enthusiastic Che lover, snored during Che’s Bolivian martyrdom. So historical questions aside, does the movie succeed as entertainment? No. It bores.

Che, parts one and two doesn't say anything particularly interesting or contain any memorable moments. The fact is that we learn next to nothing about Cuba.
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Let me say some nice things about the film. There is some lovely cinematography. There are nifty opening graphics of a map pointing out the various provinces of Cuba, although when the graphics re-appear after intermission and proceed to point out every single country in South America, it feels like a fourth grade geography lesson. Soderbergh seems to think that his audience is composed of idiots. I’m finished being nice, by the way.
Soderbergh, on the DVD make the remarks of that all he was interested in doing was getting the film made. Sorry, but you have to make something that people want to watch, not just walk away.

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You would have to be an idiot to see life in black and white like this. Che Guevara was not an angel, nor was he Satan, he was a revolutionary who wanted to kick US influence out of Cuba and succeeded.

Big fucking deal.

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"Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy (breitbart.com)

Benicio Del Toro, a talented actor, is miscast as Ernesto Guevara; he has none of the cocky swagger and sarcastic humor of the real Che. He looks chronically depressed throughout the film. No one would follow Del Toro’s Che, except to a pharmacy to make sure he refilled his Zoloft.

At times the other actors, who unlike Del Toro are portraying Cubans, don’t even seem remotely Cuban; at other times the attempts of these same actors to behave and sound Cubanazo, chico, are hokey and forced.
The music was simply awful, long passages of random noise just got in the way of what little development and action that might be occurring on screen. The dialog was similarly inept. Although better in the first movie, by the time the second rolls around, what little dialog is left, it is really a wooden dialog.

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"Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy (breitbart.com)

But “Che” fails on a much deeper level. It attempts to depict actual historical events, the effects of which still play out today and affect millions of people. Does the movie tell the truth? It barely even tries. It is in this failure to connect with historic truth that the film sinks from being a mere failure to being an ugly lie.

Che, a dramatized documentary of such sanitized material that it quickly becomes, and remains, an exceedingly boring watch. No matter del Toro's acting, the script is devoid of any real insight into Che.
Certainly, it is sanitized, they omitted all the inconvenient truths about his life from the script.

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"Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy (breitbart.com)
In an interview, Soderbergh quoted Che’s Castro-approved biographer Jon Lee Anderson as saying, “there are a million Ches. He means something different to everyone.” This is not only wrong, itis nonsense, and it perfectly sums up the kind of divorced-from-reality magical thinking that plagues Hollywood today and results in so many bad movies. There are a million STORIES about “el Che,” but there was only one living, breathing Ernesto Guevara.
Che Guevara, the one and only, the butcher of la Cabaña.

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Keep Che's name out of your fuckin' mouth.

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"Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy (breitbart.com)

Pre-Revolutionary Cuba is predictably presented in this film as a screamingly poor, fifth-world country. It seems that every other character is illiterate. People who were there remember it differently, and United Nations statistics from the period tell a different story: Cuba was in fact the fourth most literate country in Latin America. “A people that don’t know how to read and write are an easy people to fool,” scolds Del Toro, index finger in the air. Ironic, that, considering how the Castros have always used the written word to fool people in Cuba and all over the world, via surrogates like Anderson, who blandly parrot the official version of Cuban history.

Cuba has had one of the most literate populations in Latin America well before the Castroit regime came to power. The national illiteracy rate for at least 15 years old was 18% in 1958, ranking third in Latin America. The female percentage, in relation to the total student population, was the highest in the Western Hemisphere including the US. The United Nations Statistics Division yearbook of 1959 shows Cuba having 3.8 university students per 1,000 inhabitants, well above the Latin America median of 2.6. Cuban’s texts books were exported to several Latin American countries, bringing in 1958 $10 million in revenue.

In 1958 Cuba’s healthcare indicators ranked first in infant mortality rate (13th lowest in the world), and second in beds and physicians per inhabitant. The mortality rate was the third lowest in the world.

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"Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy (breitbart.com)

At the end of the first half of the film, Che orders a rebel to return a red convertible the rebel has plundered. Che was not a plunderer, you see. Even if this incident is factually true, its inclusion in this film is a lie, because the film neglects to tell us that shortly after the war, Guevara moved into an extravagant beachfront mansion in Tarara, a few miles outside of Havana (after kicking out the previous owner). In March of 1959, Che lamely explained in a letter to future exile Carlos Franqui, then editor of the newspaper Revolucion, that “I am ill…due to my revolutionary work…Doctors advised a house at a distance (from Havana), so as to avoid too many visitors and I was lent this one by the Ministry of Property Recovery…
“Rodriguez had brought back some personal relics from his trip, among them one of several Rolex watches found in Che’s possession” ('Che Guevara: A Revolutionary Life', Jon Lee Anderson, 1997, p. 741).

Che owned several Rolex, the leading name in luxury wrist watches, the ultimate symbol of capitalism and bourgeoisie enterprise.

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"Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy (breitbart.com)
Soderbergh is a very talented movie director. But talk about overconfidence. He's become embarrassing in his self-indulgence. I think some in Hollywood love the idea of a radical who can "fight the system". That's basically how they see it. Most of the people who praise Che know little to nothing about him. He's more of an idea to them than a fact.

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I'm not sure I understand Hollywood disconnect about mass murderers anymore.

Hitler (socialist) = bad

Mao (communist) = ignored

Stalin (communist) = ignored

Castro (communist) = praised

Che (communist) = anointed

Was it that Hitler was just not left enough? Because on the order of numbers of dead, he was only third.

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I've always thought lefty types love Che for the same reason teen "Satanists" love Charles Manson. Che did and said what they want to but can't. He hated Blacks, killed people he didn't like and took whatever he wanted. For the nihilistic left he's the ultimate fantasy figure.

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I am glad to discover not everybody in the US ignores the truth about this Mass Murderer who is revered as a hero. By the way he did not wear a red beret, he used a black one, when are this Hollywood researchers going to be detail oriented. Pity that talented people lend themselves to participate in this masquerade. Is it that they get very well paid or is it that or is it that their hearts belong to Daddy Lenin.

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I am sick and tired of these millionaires who claim to be liberals. As such they should start by sharing their wealth. It is very easy to live like royalty, without food lines, being able to say and do what they desire. Why don’t they move somewhere else, where they can be happier, I am sure many people would like to trade places with them. When Ali Baba and his thieves came to power in 1959, all they have done is destroy what used to be a prosperous and advanced country. Mr. Joe Lima I understand and admire your article, it is about time somebody faced this idiots with the truth.

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Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

By JOE LIMA | 13 Jan 2009
“How I would like to rise to power just to unmask cowards and lackeys of every sort and squash their snouts in their own filth.” - Che Guevara, Bolivia, September 8, 1967.

“No rapport had been established with the locals…” Anderson, p. 722

The film gives us no idea of what happened after the Cuban Revolutionary government took power. Quite a lot did happen. We all know about the Bay of Pigs invasion, which deserves its own four-hour movie, hopefully directed by someone other than Soderbergh. We also all know that hundreds of thousands of people left Cuba in the early 1960s. People have never stopped leaving.
He wrote to a friend in December 1957, “Because of my ideological background, I belong to those who believe that the solution of the world’s problems lies behind the so-called iron curtain….”

The Cuban revolution was all about power; one dictator replaced another. Why are they still fleeing on boats if it is so wonderful living there? The ultimate irony is that the capitalist system Che supposedly despised has turned him into a money-maker for rich pseudo-intellectuals who want to look cool. When has a socialist society ever actually created a good situation for its people? Of course, never, because they are all dictatorships.

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Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

What’s less known to outsiders is that under Castro’s command, the Cuban Revolution began, very early on, to eat its own. The highest rank in the Revolutionary army was then the rank of “Comandante.” Here’s what happened to a few Revolutionary Comandantes: In October 1959, Comandante Huber Matos, who is omitted from this film, criticizes the influence of Communists in the Revolutionary Government, and tenders his resignation. He is arrested, and serves twenty years in prison, during which time he endures severe torture. The dashing Comandante Camilo Cienfuegos is killed in an airplane crash within a week of the arrest of Huber Matos. The wreckage has never been found. Matos, who along with Camilo flanks Fidel in the famous photographs of Fidel’s entry into Havana, is among many who have never accepted the plane crash story. In March of 1961, Comandante William Morgan, of Cleveland, Ohio, also omitted from this film, is arrested and executed.
The film did a huge injustice to history by excluding La Cabana (among many other things). I know why Soderbergh really did it, because it would have shocked many Che fans.

There should have been scenes with Che sitting atop El Paredon smoking a cigar while the Fire rang out. There should have also been several scenes where Che personally executes people and even a scene where he is sitting there eating his steak looking out the window while the firing squads go on. By omitting these Soderbergh set himself up for a hail of rightful criticism

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Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

Revolutionaries were now being eliminated as well, not just Batistianos. In this dangerous atmosphere of Revolutionary cannibalism, Che recklessly blasted the Soviet Union in a speech in Algiers in 1965. Guevara was famously an admirer of Mao; Fidel in those days was firmly in the Soviet column, and with good reason: the Soviets were pumping massive amounts of capital into Cuba. In Cuba, when you disagree with Fidel, guess who wins? Che’s attack on the absolutely vital Soviet Sugar Daddy was nothing short of foolish.

Without knowledge of these important events, largely omitted from the film, one simply cannot observe Guevara’s Bolivian debacle from an informed perspective.
Quote from “Che Guevara the Fish Die by the Mouth”.
February 1965 at the International Conference of Algiers, Che in his speech criticized the Soviet Union policy by adopting what he called “the law of value”, which organizes and regulates human activity in the capitalist society. This contributed to the cooling of the relations between Cuba and the Soviet Union. The Soviet ambassador in Havana complained to Castro about the anti-Soviet behavior of Che. Castro disagreed publicly with the anti-Soviet policy of Che, and this caused Che to be removed from the ruling circle.

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Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

Che did preside over a gulag. He was the first Revolutionary Comandante in charge of La Cabaña fortress, the old Spanish fort that became ground zero in the Cuban gulag archipelago. Che had taken charge of La Cabaña on January 3rd. Again, hardly time for due process. Before long, the prison cells of La Cabaña began to fill not with Batistianos, but with former comrades of Fidel and Che. My cousin, Oscar Plá began his odyssey through the Cuban gulag at the age of 15, in October of 1961, and finally emerged for good at the age of 33; his initial incarceration was in La Cabaña.

In prison Oscar got to know several people who had direct contact with el Che. Two, Bernardo Paradela, and Raul Venta del Mazo, both veterans of the struggle against Batista who later turned against the Revolution, were hung upside down for over a month and interrogated. Guevara came to taunt them every single day of their ordeal.
Dr. Armando Lago PhD, who received a doctorate in economics from Harvard University, has documented over 4,000 deaths in Cuba, mostly firing squad executions, during the first three years after Fidel Castro's takeover (1959-1962), a period during which Che Guevara is known to have been one of the Castro government's chief executioners in La Cabaña.

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Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

Cinematically speaking, the problem with the Bolivian portion of the film is that there is simply not two hours of movie to be squeezed from this disaster. If the first two hours of the film are boring, the second two are stuporific.
One can only imagine what the Indigenous Bolivians thought of the loud, smelly, bearded foreigners who suddenly appeared in their midst: “Saludos, comrades, we’re here to liberate you. Do you have anything to eat? Listen, don’t tell anyone you saw us, or we’ll kill you. By the way, I am not Che Guevara. What’s that? Oh, you don’t speak Spanish?”
In his diaries Che also referred to Bolivian villagers as "animalitos" (little animals.) Wonder if Evo Morales has read them? He's too busy ribbon-cutting Che monuments in Bolivian villages.

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Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

Cinematically speaking, the problem with the Bolivian portion of the film is that there is simply not two hours of movie to be squeezed from this disaster. If the first two hours of the film are boring, the second two are stuporific.
One can only imagine what the Indigenous Bolivians thought of the loud, smelly, bearded foreigners who suddenly appeared in their midst: “Saludos, comrades, we’re here to liberate you. Do you have anything to eat? Listen, don’t tell anyone you saw us, or we’ll kill you. By the way, I am not Che Guevara. What’s that? Oh, you don’t speak Spanish?”
In his diaries Che also referred to Bolivian villagers as "animalitos" (little animals.) Wonder if Evo Morales has read them? He's too busy ribbon-cutting Che monuments in Bolivian villages.
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Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

No less than the now-exiled Daniel Alarcon, code named “Benigno” in Bolivia, and one of only three survivors of the expedition, today believes that Fidel set Che and the rest of his guerrillas up for failure, and death. He also has interesting things to say about the death of Camilo Cienfuegos.

Whatever “the Cuban experience” as Guevara referred to the guerrilla war of 1956-1959 was, it was nothing like Bolivia, and Guevara’s experiences in Cuba in no way prepared him for what he encountered in South America.
Benigno told the newspaper Corriere della Sera that Cuban dictator Fidel Castro betrayed Guevara following orders from Moscow, that the plan was to "export the revolution" but that Castro abandoned them in the Bolivian jungle. "Che went to his death knowing that Castro had betrayed him," he said

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victorin1 said...
Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

No less than the now-exiled Daniel Alarcon, code named “Benigno” in Bolivia, and one of only three survivors of the expedition, today believes that Fidel set Che and the rest of his guerrillas up for failure, and death. He also has interesting things to say about the death of Camilo Cienfuegos.

Whatever “the Cuban experience” as Guevara referred to the guerrilla war of 1956-1959 was, it was nothing like Bolivia, and Guevara’s experiences in Cuba in no way prepared him for what he encountered in South America.
Benigno told the newspaper Corriere della Sera that Cuban dictator Fidel Castro betrayed Guevara following orders from Moscow, that the plan was to "export the revolution" but that Castro abandoned them in the Bolivian jungle. "Che went to his death knowing that Castro had betrayed him," he said
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Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

By JOE LIMA | 13 Jan 2009

At the end of the film, a Bolivian soldier asks Guevara if there was religion in Cuba. Guevara answers that yes, there are many religions in Cuba. In fact, religious persecution in Cuba at the time was a terrifying reality. From training fire hoses on a group of twelve to fourteen year old girls on their way into the Church of La Caridad del Cobre, a place sacred to Cubans since the 1600s, to teach Catechism class (this happened to my cousin Oscar’s wife, Miriam) to the internment of thousands in the UMAP camps of 1965 – 1968, where Jehova’s Witnesses in particular had it very rough, tortured with fire ants until they renounced their faith, religion was under fire in Cuba. A more honest answer from Che would have been, “yes, there is religion in Cuba, but we’re doing everything we can to get rid of it.”
Pre-criminal danger to society is a legal charge under Cuban regime law, which allows the authorities to detain people whom they think they are likely to commit crimes in the future. The implementation of this controversial law replaced the first labor camp established by Che Guevara in the Guanahacabibes region in western Cuba in 1960, to confine people who had committed no crime punishable by law. This camp was the precursor of the concentration camps established in Camagüey province from 1965 to 1968 called Military Units to Aid Production (UMAP), to confined dissidents, homosexuals, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Afro-Cuban priests, and other such “scum.”

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victorin1 said...
Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

By JOE LIMA | 13 Jan 2009

At the end of the film, a Bolivian soldier asks Guevara if there was religion in Cuba. Guevara answers that yes, there are many religions in Cuba. In fact, religious persecution in Cuba at the time was a terrifying reality. From training fire hoses on a group of twelve to fourteen year old girls on their way into the Church of La Caridad del Cobre, a place sacred to Cubans since the 1600s, to teach Catechism class (this happened to my cousin Oscar’s wife, Miriam) to the internment of thousands in the UMAP camps of 1965 – 1968, where Jehova’s Witnesses in particular had it very rough, tortured with fire ants until they renounced their faith, religion was under fire in Cuba. A more honest answer from Che would have been, “yes, there is religion in Cuba, but we’re doing everything we can to get rid of it.”
Pre-criminal danger to society is a legal charge under Cuban regime law, which allows the authorities to detain people whom they think they are likely to commit crimes in the future. The implementation of this controversial law replaced the first labor camp established by Che Guevara in the Guanahacabibes region in western Cuba in 1960, to confine people who had committed no crime punishable by law. This camp was the precursor of the concentration camps established in Camagüey province from 1965 to 1968 called Military Units to Aid Production (UMAP), to confined dissidents, homosexuals, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Afro-Cuban priests, and other such “scum.”
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Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

I wish that Mr. Soderbergh and Mr. Del Toro could live in Cuba, not as the pampered VIPs that they are when they visit today, but as Cubans do, with no United States Constitutional rights, with ration cards entitling them to tiny portions of provisions that the stores don’t even stock anyway, with chivatos (snitches) surveilling them constantly. How long would it be before Mr. Soderbergh started sizing up inner tubes, speculating on the durability and buoyancy of them, asking himself, could I make the crossing on that? How long before Mr. Del Toro started gazing soulfully at divorced or widowed tourist women, hoping to seduce and marry one of them and get out? Only then could they see why this insipid, frivolous and pretentious movie they have made is nothing less than an insult to millions of people, who really do live like that, and who’ve lived like that their entire lives.
They will do it very fast after hearing this from the horse mouth: "Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine." (Che Guevara, Message to the Tricontinental, 9/67)

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Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

I wish that Mr. Soderbergh and Mr. Del Toro could live in Cuba, not as the pampered VIPs that they are when they visit today, but as Cubans do, with no United States Constitutional rights, with ration cards entitling them to tiny portions of provisions that the stores don’t even stock anyway, with chivatos (snitches) surveilling them constantly. How long would it be before Mr. Soderbergh started sizing up inner tubes, speculating on the durability and buoyancy of them, asking himself, could I make the crossing on that? How long before Mr. Del Toro started gazing soulfully at divorced or widowed tourist women, hoping to seduce and marry one of them and get out? Only then could they see why this insipid, frivolous and pretentious movie they have made is nothing less than an insult to millions of people, who really do live like that, and who’ve lived like that their entire lives.
They will do it very fast after hearing this from the horse mouth: "Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine." (Che Guevara, Message to the Tricontinental, 9/67)
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Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

How individuals from the left can worship Che? When cornered, he surrendered and shouted "I'm Che', I'm worth more to you alive than dead" He planned to blow up buildings in NY at the same time he was visiting the "intellectuals" at their lavish parties they threw for him. The movie didn’t include how the regime butcher sold the blood of political prisoners. Some people just can't handle all the freedom we have in the US and must find something wrong with it so they can feel guilty.
The worshipers of Che aren’t rebels or peace activists. They are tools promoting the harmful legacy of collectivism and the havoc it has brought all over the world. Che only was able to beg for his life, he didn’t know to die like a man, like the 14 years old boy he killed at La Cabaña that said to him: “If you're going to kill me you're going to have to do it the way you kill a man, standing, not like a coward, kneeling.”

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victorin1 said...
Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

How individuals from the left can worship Che? When cornered, he surrendered and shouted "I'm Che', I'm worth more to you alive than dead" He planned to blow up buildings in NY at the same time he was visiting the "intellectuals" at their lavish parties they threw for him. The movie didn’t include how the regime butcher sold the blood of political prisoners. Some people just can't handle all the freedom we have in the US and must find something wrong with it so they can feel guilty.
The worshipers of Che aren’t rebels or peace activists. They are tools promoting the harmful legacy of collectivism and the havoc it has brought all over the world. Che only was able to beg for his life, he didn’t know to die like a man, like the 14 years old boy he killed at La Cabaña that said to him: “If you're going to kill me you're going to have to do it the way you kill a man, standing, not like a coward, kneeling.”
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Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

Che was an extreme left winger whose whole life was dedicated to an ideology which has led to the death and misery of many people. He was, after all, the one who wrote: “Hatred is an element of struggle; relentless hatred of the enemy that impels us over and beyond the natural limitations of man and transforms us into effective, violent, selective, and cold killing machines.”
He was just another narcissist using the same century’s old doctrine to justify mass murder and torture. What a pity the so tolerant lefties in Hollywood don't share this view.

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victorin1 said...
Part II: "Che:" Bad Movie About A Bad Guy Gets Worse (breitbart.com)

Che was an extreme left winger whose whole life was dedicated to an ideology which has led to the death and misery of many people. He was, after all, the one who wrote: “Hatred is an element of struggle; relentless hatred of the enemy that impels us over and beyond the natural limitations of man and transforms us into effective, violent, selective, and cold killing machines.”
He was just another narcissist using the same century’s old doctrine to justify mass murder and torture. What a pity the so tolerant lefties in Hollywood don't share this view.
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Hollywood Celebrates Che Guevara
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051070523038351.html

But it makes no films about the Cuban resistance movement.

By MARY ANASTASIA O'GRADY
WSJ.com
December 29, 2008

Hollywood hotshot Benicio Del Toro is not a stand-up comic, but he seemed to be playing one earlier this month when he said he found the role of Cuban Revolution hero Ernesto Guevara, in the new film "Che," like Jesus Christ.
"Only Jesus would turn the other cheek. Che wouldn't," Mr. Del Toro explained. Right. And Bernie Madoff is Mother Teresa, only she wasn't into fraud.

With next month marking the 50th anniversary of the Castro dictatorship, it's no surprise that the film industry is trying to cash in by celebrating pop-culture icon Guevara. As one of Fidel Castro's lieutenants in the Sierra Maestra and a Castro enforcer in the years following the rebel victory, his name is synonymous with the Cuban Revolution.

Interesting films are hard to come by these days and "Che" is a good example of the problem. Rebel glamour sells T-shirts and coffee mugs so why not another airbrushed rerun of Guevara's life? Or, more precisely, some mythical version of it, sanitized for the mass market. Meanwhile the real marvel of the past 50 years in Cuba – the steady stream of heroic nonconformists who have risked all in their aspiration to think, speak and act freely – remains the untold epic of our time.
Google title above for full article.
What bothers me about Hollywood revisionism is that so many Americans consider these movies as historical fact. In many cases, these are their only source of historical knowledge.

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victorin1 said...
Hollywood Celebrates Che Guevara
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051070523038351.html

But it makes no films about the Cuban resistance movement.

By MARY ANASTASIA O'GRADY
WSJ.com
December 29, 2008

Hollywood hotshot Benicio Del Toro is not a stand-up comic, but he seemed to be playing one earlier this month when he said he found the role of Cuban Revolution hero Ernesto Guevara, in the new film "Che," like Jesus Christ.
"Only Jesus would turn the other cheek. Che wouldn't," Mr. Del Toro explained. Right. And Bernie Madoff is Mother Teresa, only she wasn't into fraud.

With next month marking the 50th anniversary of the Castro dictatorship, it's no surprise that the film industry is trying to cash in by celebrating pop-culture icon Guevara. As one of Fidel Castro's lieutenants in the Sierra Maestra and a Castro enforcer in the years following the rebel victory, his name is synonymous with the Cuban Revolution.

Interesting films are hard to come by these days and "Che" is a good example of the problem. Rebel glamour sells T-shirts and coffee mugs so why not another airbrushed rerun of Guevara's life? Or, more precisely, some mythical version of it, sanitized for the mass market. Meanwhile the real marvel of the past 50 years in Cuba – the steady stream of heroic nonconformists who have risked all in their aspiration to think, speak and act freely – remains the untold epic of our time.
Google title above for full article.
What bothers me about Hollywood revisionism is that so many Americans consider these movies as historical fact. In many cases, these are their only source of historical knowledge.
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Hollywood Celebrates Che Guevara
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051070523038351.html


The screenplay for the Soderbergh/del Toro biopic was based on Che Guevara’s diaries which were published by Cuba’s propaganda ministry with the forward written by Fidel Castro himself. The film includes several Communist Cuban actors and the other Latin American actors spent months in Cuba being prepped for their roles by members of Cuba’s “Che Guevara Institute.”
Hollywood and the Left, the "useful idiots", turn a blind eye to Cuba's human rights abuses, ending up sustaining Castro's regime brutality.

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victorin1 said...
Hollywood Celebrates Che Guevara
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051070523038351.html


The screenplay for the Soderbergh/del Toro biopic was based on Che Guevara’s diaries which were published by Cuba’s propaganda ministry with the forward written by Fidel Castro himself. The film includes several Communist Cuban actors and the other Latin American actors spent months in Cuba being prepped for their roles by members of Cuba’s “Che Guevara Institute.”
Hollywood and the Left, the "useful idiots", turn a blind eye to Cuba's human rights abuses, ending up sustaining Castro's regime brutality.
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Hollywood Celebrates Che Guevara
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051070523038351.
html


A proclamation from Castro’s own press ministry dated 12/7/08 actually boasted of their role: “Actor Benicio del Toro presented the film (at Havana’s Karl Marx Theater) as he thanked the Cuban Film Institute (ICAIC) for its assistance during the shooting of the film, which was the result of a seven-year research work in Cuba.” The Cuban Film Institute (ICAIC) is an arm of Stalinist Cuba’s propaganda ministry.
Benicio del Toro quote: “We tell stories about Batman, and he was a type of Batman. No one can deny that he was trying to stop man exploiting man. Whether he was successful or not…Two people who I met learned how to read and write because of him.”
Che Batman quote: “Don't Shoot!”, at the same time that he dropped his fully loaded weapons, “I'm Batman! I'm worth to you more alive than dead”.

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victorin1 said...
Hollywood Celebrates Che Guevara
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051070523038351.
html


A proclamation from Castro’s own press ministry dated 12/7/08 actually boasted of their role: “Actor Benicio del Toro presented the film (at Havana’s Karl Marx Theater) as he thanked the Cuban Film Institute (ICAIC) for its assistance during the shooting of the film, which was the result of a seven-year research work in Cuba.” The Cuban Film Institute (ICAIC) is an arm of Stalinist Cuba’s propaganda ministry.
Benicio del Toro quote: “We tell stories about Batman, and he was a type of Batman. No one can deny that he was trying to stop man exploiting man. Whether he was successful or not…Two people who I met learned how to read and write because of him.”
Che Batman quote: “Don't Shoot!”, at the same time that he dropped his fully loaded weapons, “I'm Batman! I'm worth to you more alive than dead”.
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Hollywood Celebrates Che Guevara
]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051070523038351.html


The Stalinist regime that co-produced this film and now feted its director and star — employing the midnight knock and the dawn raid among other devices by its KGB-mentored secret police- rounded up and jailed more political prisoners as a percentage of population than Stalin’s and executed more people (out of a population of 6.4 million) in its first three years in power than Hitler’s executed (out of a population of 68 million) in it’s first six. Ernesto “Che” Guevara initiated this bloodbath and mass-jailing under the direction of Soviet GRU agent Angel Ciutah, who was Che’s chief mentor and houseguest (in the most luxurious mansion in Cuba, by the way) only weeks after Che entered Havana and stole it from it’s owner, threatening him with a firing squad.
Here you have it folks, Che, the “new man” of the “new class”.

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victorin1 said...
Hollywood Celebrates Che Guevara
]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051070523038351.html


The Stalinist regime that co-produced this film and now feted its director and star — employing the midnight knock and the dawn raid among other devices by its KGB-mentored secret police- rounded up and jailed more political prisoners as a percentage of population than Stalin’s and executed more people (out of a population of 6.4 million) in its first three years in power than Hitler’s executed (out of a population of 68 million) in it’s first six. Ernesto “Che” Guevara initiated this bloodbath and mass-jailing under the direction of Soviet GRU agent Angel Ciutah, who was Che’s chief mentor and houseguest (in the most luxurious mansion in Cuba, by the way) only weeks after Che entered Havana and stole it from it’s owner, threatening him with a firing squad.
Here you have it folks, Che, the “new man” of the “new class”.
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Hollywood Celebrates Che Guevara
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“I’m here in Cuba’s hills thirsting for blood,” Che wrote his abandoned wife in 1957. “Dear Papa, today I discovered I really like killing,” he wrote shortly afterwards. Alas, this killing very rarely involved combat; it come from the close-range murder of bound and blindfolded men and boys.

“When you saw the beaming look on Che’s face as the victims were tied to the stake and blasted apart,” said a former political prisoner to this writer, “you knew there was something seriously, seriously wrong with Che Guevara.” In fact the one genuine accomplishment in Che Guevara’s life was the mass-murder of defenseless men and boys. Under his own gun dozens died. Under his orders thousands crumpled. At everything else Che Guevara failed abysmally, even comically. Yet Soderbergh and Del Toro skip over these fascinating quotes and Che’s one genuine accomplishment as a revolutionary.
Most of the people have been subjected to a barrage of propaganda and know very little about the real Che. That is the reason why is important to spread the truth about his character, who really he was, a “cold-blooded killing machine.”

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victorin1 said...
Hollywood Celebrates Che Guevara
]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051070523038351.html


“I’m here in Cuba’s hills thirsting for blood,” Che wrote his abandoned wife in 1957. “Dear Papa, today I discovered I really like killing,” he wrote shortly afterwards. Alas, this killing very rarely involved combat; it come from the close-range murder of bound and blindfolded men and boys.

“When you saw the beaming look on Che’s face as the victims were tied to the stake and blasted apart,” said a former political prisoner to this writer, “you knew there was something seriously, seriously wrong with Che Guevara.” In fact the one genuine accomplishment in Che Guevara’s life was the mass-murder of defenseless men and boys. Under his own gun dozens died. Under his orders thousands crumpled. At everything else Che Guevara failed abysmally, even comically. Yet Soderbergh and Del Toro skip over these fascinating quotes and Che’s one genuine accomplishment as a revolutionary.
Most of the people have been subjected to a barrage of propaganda and know very little about the real Che. That is the reason why is important to spread the truth about his character, who really he was, a “cold-blooded killing machine.”
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Part II Fidel Castro: Hollywood Screenwriter Comments

When will sanity prevail and these people will be taken to task for telling blatant lies about a psycho like Che. Next they will make a movie about Stalin or Hitler and it will be told from a side that will show the "humanity and true struggle that these poor men would have endured.” They killed people out of sheer insane hatred for the world.

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victorin1 said... Part II Fidel Castro: Hollywood Screenwriter Comments

When will sanity prevail and these people will be taken to task for telling blatant lies about a psycho like Che. Next they will make a movie about Stalin or Hitler and it will be told from a side that will show the "humanity and true struggle that these poor men would have endured.” They killed people out of sheer insane hatred for the world.
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Why have so many Cubans risked their lives and that of their families to get out of paradise? Answer that all you apologists for Che and Castro. Why does Castro have to fence in the people of his county as did the East Germany and all other communist countries? Why are these countries turned into prisons?

The communists' countries have to keep people from leaving, because so many don’t want to live under them.

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victorin1 said... Why have so many Cubans risked their lives and that of their families to get out of paradise? Answer that all you apologists for Che and Castro. Why does Castro have to fence in the people of his county as did the East Germany and all other communist countries? Why are these countries turned into prisons?

The communists' countries have to keep people from leaving, because so many don’t want to live under them.
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I find it absolutely stunning that this psychopath still has fans. But then, there are still useful idiots who think Fidel's Cuba is a paradise. The useful idiots of Hollywood are licking Castro's blood-drenched boots; they don't have to live there.

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victorin1 said... I find it absolutely stunning that this psychopath still has fans. But then, there are still useful idiots who think Fidel's Cuba is a paradise. The useful idiots of Hollywood are licking Castro's blood-drenched boots; they don't have to live there.
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The left loves the psychopaths because they dream of the day when they will have that kind of power. It's sick and twisted, but then so is their ideology, they truly are the enemy of humanity and civilization, a bunch of barbarians in waiting.

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victorin1 said... The left loves the psychopaths because they dream of the day when they will have that kind of power. It's sick and twisted, but then so is their ideology, they truly are the enemy of humanity and civilization, a bunch of barbarians in waiting.
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Che on May Day
Che on May Day | Canada Free Press


Humberto Fontova – May 16, 2010

A May Day march without Che Guevara posters and Mexican flags is like a fish with a bicycle. We observed the bemusing spectacle two weeks ago. Now it’s time to reflect.
Some marchers, apparently wracked with guilt between the primacy of the two symbols, devised a handy modus vivendi for their tortured consciences’

It seemed that few groups of Mexican demonstrators forget to glorify the man on record (June, 1956) as dismissing Mexicans en masse as, “a rabble of illiterate Indians.” In 1956, while residing in Mexico and training with the Castro brothers for their "invasion" of Cuba, Che Guevara sneered at his hosts and the “rabble” of Mexican citizens surrounding the training camp in those exact words. So recalls one of Che’s military trainers of the time, the Cuban (but non-commie) Miguel Sanchez.
The justification that Che was young and immature doesn’t cut it anymore. As we can see from his behavior, he was a racist person through and through all his life.

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victorin1 said... The left loves the psychopaths because they dream of the day when they will have that kind of power. It's sick and twisted, but then so is their ideology, they truly are the enemy of humanity and civilization, a bunch of barbarians in waiting.
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It is hypocritical to be woke and wearing a T-shirt of this murdering asshole at the same time.

Would those woke morons wear a shirt or sing the praises of Charles Manson, Ted Bundy and Jeffery Dahmer?
Why not when they and Che are all in the same boat?

"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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WarrenPeace said... It is hypocritical to be woke and wearing a T-shirt of this murdering asshole at the same time.

Would those woke morons wear a shirt or sing the praises of Charles Manson, Ted Bundy and Jeffery Dahmer?
Why not when they and Che are all in the same boat?
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Che on May Day | Canada Free Press

Labor groups were also prominent on May Day with their Che Guevara regalia. “The workers movement has no borders,” proclaimed their abundant posters.
In a TV speech June 26, 1961, when Che Guevara was Cuba’s “Minister of Industries” he proclaimed: “The Cuban workers have to start being used to live in a collectivist regimen and by no means can they go on strike.”
This “no strike” provision was unacceptable to Cuban laborers—many of whom took up arms in protest. One of these was a 20-year-old boy named Tony Chao Flores, who was promptly captured by Che’s goons. Within weeks Che Guevara saw to it that Tony be bound to the execution stake.
The Left admire Che, a man who murdered thousands, a racist, and a women basher and homophobic, who is responsible for the oppression of millions. May God bless Tony and many others like him.

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victorin1 said...
Che on May Day | Canada Free Press

Labor groups were also prominent on May Day with their Che Guevara regalia. “The workers movement has no borders,” proclaimed their abundant posters.
In a TV speech June 26, 1961, when Che Guevara was Cuba’s “Minister of Industries” he proclaimed: “The Cuban workers have to start being used to live in a collectivist regimen and by no means can they go on strike.”
This “no strike” provision was unacceptable to Cuban laborers—many of whom took up arms in protest. One of these was a 20-year-old boy named Tony Chao Flores, who was promptly captured by Che’s goons. Within weeks Che Guevara saw to it that Tony be bound to the execution stake.
The Left admire Che, a man who murdered thousands, a racist, and a women basher and homophobic, who is responsible for the oppression of millions. May God bless Tony and many others like him.
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Communist regimes have imprisoned and killed more people than any other political system during the 20th century. How is possible that our universities and colleges embrace this sadistic ideology? It is very difficult to sway their opinions even with the use of unambiguous facts, since they behave like religious fanatics.

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victorin1 said... Communist regimes have imprisoned and killed more people than any other political system during the 20th century. How is possible that our universities and colleges embrace this sadistic ideology? It is very difficult to sway their opinions even with the use of unambiguous facts, since they behave like religious fanatics.
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Che Guevara, the killing machine, is promoted as a hero by lefties professors in our universities and colleges. Is this the kind of people that the left wants to impose on us? Is there anything that we can do to stop these “useful idiots” from spreading their venom?

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victorin1 said... Che Guevara, the killing machine, is promoted as a hero by lefties professors in our universities and colleges. Is this the kind of people that the left wants to impose on us? Is there anything that we can do to stop these “useful idiots” from spreading their venom?
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History will not absolve the killers. In a free Cuba Tony and all the other assassinated by the Castro brothers, Che and company will be honor and remembered with love.
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