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I believe mom's reaction was in reference to Alex alluding to the fact that she tried so hard to be perfect in everything she did. not due to her being gay. I'd need to see the scene again to confirm, but that's what I feel like happened.
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Don't get me wrong, I was by no means offended by it, but that jumped off the screen for me. I was actually a bit shocked by it. And I'm neither a lesbian or a woman!
I just thought it was weird that she was so bothered by it. I know the mother didn't mean it like that, but it did sound offensive. I'm surprised that there weren't a few posts about it.
I just thought it was weird that she was so bothered by it. I know the mother didn't mean it like that, but it did sound offensive. I'm surprised that there weren't a few posts about it.
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I see what you're saying. I suppose it's all a matter of perception. And since mom was gushing with the love by the end of their scene, any misconstrued awkwardness with her phrasing went right out the window.
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What Cosima said (perhaps my favourite "orphan" btw).
Lesbians are perfectly normal, to the best of our current understanding of how such things work, at least. They are just not the norm.
But then again, "the norm" is often boring. Alex is not (still think they should have planned this arc from the beginning, or left her straight).
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Lesbians are perfectly normal, to the best of our current understanding of how such things work, at least. They are just not the norm.
But then again, "the norm" is often boring. Alex is not (still think they should have planned this arc from the beginning, or left her straight).
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Cheers to Orphan Black. And your post is eloquently stated.
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Being gay/trans is not normal, just like being born a hermaphrodite or having a external heart or no eyeballs is not normal.
Lot's of defects can happen to a person, that doesn't make it normal.
Lot's of defects can happen to a person, that doesn't make it normal.
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Well, in the spirit of accuracy, I should have used "natural". Strictly speaking, they are not "normal" by most definitions of the word.
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It's not natural either, it's an aberration. It's natural for humans to be born and have sexual attraction to the opposite sex for reproduction.
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If it can be found in nature, it's natural. Being an aberration means it's not normal.
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It's not natural. If a mother smokes crack or takes a vaccine and her child is born with a defect it is not natural. Just because something can happen doesn't mean it is natural. I don't care if it occurs in nature. It is an aberration, homosexuality means no breeding which means the death of the species, it is a mutation and genetic dead-end, it is not part of being human.
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Any female of a reproductive age can have offspring, so your point is lost. Lesbians have babies, biologically- it happens. Gay men can father babies through surrogates- it happens. There are plenty of infertile straight people who still exist and get married, so are they an aberration and not natural as well, by your definition, because they can't breed? There are also women in their 40s and up who've entered menopause and are unable to breed- have they then become an aberration in your eyes? Life always finds a way- don't assume it's only because a straight couple had some sex and that is the only way to make babies. We get it, you don't like homosexuals- your opinion so why do you watch shows that contain them? No one here is begging you to keep watching.
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Being gay is an aberration. Being infertile is an aberration.
Menopause is a natural result of aging.
If you can't handle reality, kill yourself.
Menopause is a natural result of aging.
If you can't handle reality, kill yourself.
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Well aren't you just a bundle of open-minded, loving, kind and accepting joy. Your God must be so proud of you. (Ps, clearly your God's name rhymes with "hatin".)
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No mother wants their daughter to be a lesbian it isn't ideal but you just get on with it.
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Presume much???? Making statements as such are presumptive and incorrect. Not everyone thinks the exact same way. Personally- I wouldn't care if my Kids were gay.
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I don't think this is a presumptive comment. I'm a lesbian and don't care in the least if my kids are gay, but I would hope, for their sake, that they weren't. If only because their lives would be SO much easier not dealing with homophobic idiots.
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PS - Love Sanvers and Cophine!!!
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I totally get what you're saying and I see your point. I guess I was disagreeing with the other poster's absolute statement of saying that no mom, as in 0 moms, would want their kids to be gay. I know there are some who wouldn't, as you demonstrated with your excellent reply. And at the same time, there are others who would be ok all together with it. But yes- you made a valid point!
And hell yah- Cophine is end game! (And, nice to meet a fellow OB fan!)
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And hell yah- Cophine is end game! (And, nice to meet a fellow OB fan!)
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My mother doesn't give a crap that I'm in a relationship with another woman, as long as I'm happy. Why on earth would you assume such a thing?
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Depends on which definition of "normal" you are using. If it is this one "Not the usual" then lesbians are not normal.
But lesbians, and homosexuals in general, are part of the population and, presumably, part of the viewing audience so it is appropriate to portray same-sex attractions in these TV series. Just as it is appropriate to have Asians, Africans, Hispanics, etc.
These shows don't make popular culture, they reflect it.
But lesbians, and homosexuals in general, are part of the population and, presumably, part of the viewing audience so it is appropriate to portray same-sex attractions in these TV series. Just as it is appropriate to have Asians, Africans, Hispanics, etc.
These shows don't make popular culture, they reflect it.
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Too many people get caught up in the idea of 'Normal' = the way things should be
when in fact "Normal" simply means the trait most things possess , aka the Norm.
- last I checked even using the LGBTetc's own Numbers they are less than 15 of the population ie out of every 6 people, five of them will answer to what we define as 'Straight' and only one will not Identify as 'not straight' that means straight is the 'Norm'
when in fact "Normal" simply means the trait most things possess , aka the Norm.
- last I checked even using the LGBTetc's own Numbers they are less than 15 of the population ie out of every 6 people, five of them will answer to what we define as 'Straight' and only one will not Identify as 'not straight' that means straight is the 'Norm'
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Actually, 'normal' means within expectation, not 'the norm'. Those are different things that many seem to confuse.
For example, red or blond hair is normal, but not the norm. Same with blue or green eyes. Being gay is normal, but not the norm.
All roads lead to truth if you're willing to travel honestly.
For example, red or blond hair is normal, but not the norm. Same with blue or green eyes. Being gay is normal, but not the norm.
All roads lead to truth if you're willing to travel honestly.
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I kind of cringe whenever someone uses the word "normal," because there really isn't such a thing.
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Contrary to what tumblr may tell you, there is such thing as "normal":
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1: perpendicular; especially : perpendicular to a tangent at a point of tangency
2a: according with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle
2b: conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern
3: occurring naturally
4a: of, relating to, or characterized by average intelligence or development
4b: free from mental disorder : sane
5a: (of a solution): having a concentration of one gram equivalent of solute per liter
5b: containing neither basic hydroxyl nor acid hydrogen
5c: not associated
5d: having a straight-chain structure
6: (of a subgroup): having the property that every coset produced by operating on the left by a given element is equal to the coset produced by operating on the right by the same element
7: relating to, involving, or being a normal curve or normal distribution
8: (of a matrix): having the property of commutativity under multiplication by the transpose of the matrix each of whose elements is a conjugate complex number with respect to the corresponding element of the given matrix
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Other than 1 and 8, people are compatible with all definitions. In certain contexts, 1 and 8 as well.
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You're an idiot, no such thing as normal goddamn kids these days, go back to Tumblr you poof.
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IMDB-Staff-R-SJWs2, you're a sad pathetic and clearly closeted idiot. it must really be a miserable existence to be so far in the closet and hate yourself so much that you feel you have to deflect that inner hatred at fellow people in the LGBT community.
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No, the species would be fine, since we already in history had an entire human population that was as small as your theoretical breeding population. Plus, many of the gay people would still want to be parents, and would make deals with others for artificial insemination and surrogacy.
If nature intended homosexuality to be normal or in the majority, the species would quickly die out within a generation.
Of course, it's obviously a silly point to attempt to make in the first place, since something doesn't have to be in the majority to exist, or even to be normal.
There are plenty of traits where "if everybody had trait X or performs activity Y, bad things would happen", but it doesn't matter because NOT everybody has trait X or performs activity Y.
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Closeted?
What a truly pathetic attempt to discredit someone who mereley states something you disagree with. This is why normal people (and yes, there is such a thing as normal) don't like the loud-mouthed LBGT freaks. Because they want to shove their agenda down other peoples throat and verbally assault anyone who doesn't bow their head to them.
And no, I am neither in the closet nor do I have something against gay people, I only greatly dislike childish and insecure freaks like you.
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What a truly pathetic attempt to discredit someone who mereley states something you disagree with. This is why normal people (and yes, there is such a thing as normal) don't like the loud-mouthed LBGT freaks. Because they want to shove their agenda down other peoples throat and verbally assault anyone who doesn't bow their head to them.
And no, I am neither in the closet nor do I have something against gay people, I only greatly dislike childish and insecure freaks like you.
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Because they want to shove their agenda down other peoples throat and verbally assault anyone who doesn't bow their head to them.
Wow. Now isn't that just the pot calling the kettle black given that homophobes spent DECADES forcing a lot of us into unhappy heterosexual relationships, killing us, raping us, bullying us, discriminating against us and jailing us simply for being homosexual. I am sure the guy who was murdered for being homosexual at his work not far away from where I live last year would have just loved to have had been verbally assaulted instead of being physically assaulted like many of us have been but hey, keep living in your privileged little bubble.
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it's ok JudgeJavelin. you can freely come out of the closet. it will all be ok. LOL.
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She was probably referring to the conditionning of society to usually consider only relationship between men and women, that prevented her to realize that she's always has been into girls, and not attracted to men at all.
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It doesn't take much for those sjw , Fleming lesbians and "check your privelage " Marxists to get angry .
And utsxnit normal ..never should be concidere normal.
And utsxnit normal ..never should be concidere normal.
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A lesbian who can't spell.
I know, right?
The irony is a 'leabian' isn't normal because no such thing exist.
Inane threads like these are why these boards are closing.
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It was definitely a poorly thought-out line, even though we know it was meant to be accepting from the context. They clearly had the best of intentions, but it shows a fundamental lack of understanding. It's like they're trying to satisfy an audience who would have a problem with it, and still have the character be accepting at the same time.
It's wrong to base the normality of a relationship on the sexes of the people involved, and not the nature of the relationship. Like if someone is in a polygamous relationship, that would not be normal. If someone is in an abusive relationship, that's also not normal because we don't like that as a society. But if someone is in a healthy monogamous relationship, that's normal even if it's with someone of the same sex.
It's wrong to base the normality of a relationship on the sexes of the people involved, and not the nature of the relationship. Like if someone is in a polygamous relationship, that would not be normal. If someone is in an abusive relationship, that's also not normal because we don't like that as a society. But if someone is in a healthy monogamous relationship, that's normal even if it's with someone of the same sex.
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But if someone is in a healthy monogamous relationship, that's normal even if it's with someone of the same sex.
Not at all, nor is it healthy.
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Left handed people aren't normal either, it does not make them monsters or immoral. The ratio of left handed to right handed is similar to the ratio of Bi/Homosexual/Lesbian to straight, so I didn't see that as being "offensive." Even though I am right handed, my family at large is mostly left handed, so we are "not normal" ourselves. If someone takes offense at a little under 10 percent of the population being considered not the norm, than they have other issues.
Leabian 'not normal'?!
I was like. some lesbians are gonna be maaaad at that!
Can't see any though.