The Blacklist : Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

For the life of me, I don't think I could get up right now.

WOW! Red is that woman that BAD?! Because it takes A WHOLE lot to knock you down.

Re: Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

Where did you see this?

Re: Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

bthompso, it's the very last line of the episode, when Red is talking to Natalie (and she is in a (specially quarantined) cell.


Red: The man you killed at the massage parlor was an associate of mine.
You didn't know him, you didn't rob him.
Someone hired you to assassinate him.
Natalie: She knew who I was. We had no choice. She said if I didn't kill him, she would tell Hawthorne where to find us.
Red: Who?
Natalie: Isabella Stone.
Red: (shocked) Thank you.
Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment? For the life of me, I don't think I could get up right now.


bthompso, I've got a big clue for your discussion group...

Do you remember from the end of season three, one of the girls who was working for Scottie (Susan Hargrave).. her name was "Nez Rowan," and she was a nuclear arms specialist and they were all employed by "Halcyon." (She was played by the actress Tawny Cypress btw.)

And we find out in "The Forecaster," (or was it in The Harem?) that Mr. Kaplan's sister's name was, "Maureen Rowan."

Both with the name Rowan. Coincidence? So there is a girl working for Scottie (and who will be appearing on the spinoff) who has the same last name as Mr. Kaplan's sister. Hmmm

Re: Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

Thanks Kelly.... I didn't pick up on that at all. And no one else in the group caught it I don't think. But you made a good point. The two women having the same last name must mean something. We did notice the attention paid to group of scientists and wondered about that, but not the last name. If she's going to be in redemption, maybe Kaplan will be too, although Tom tortured Kaplans friend so I don't know how happy she would be to work for Tom.

Re: Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

Well it may just the writers keep using the same names.

I remember in "Lord Baltimore," the two sisters were named Nora and Rowan Mills.

Re: Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

So we have a chain:

Nez Rowan
Nora and Rowan Mills
Maureen Rowan

The same thing is done a few times, a name used as a first and last names

Cardinal Richards was the head of The Vehm and a money launderer
Admiral Richard Abraham was Red’s roommate at the Naval Academy
Dr. Abraham Maltz is the plastic surgeon Red uses

Pierre-Louis Anton was a alias of Tom Keen. He used it to go to Paris in 2012
Anton Velov, the former head of the KGB’s Zarubin Group
Tony Gianussa was a mobster who stole the witness protection list.
Isabela Stone, blacklister.
Peter Kotsiopolus, former head of the Clandestine Services and a cabal higher up

Bradley is the name of Sweater vest
Bradley Clark was the associate of Scottie Hargrave who is killed by Red
Bradley Holland was one of the aliases of Nathaniel Wolffe
Bradley Markin is the prosecutor for the Eugene Ames murder
Dean Bradley was the soldier in Johan Halfback’s squad killed by McGrath
Mr. Bradley was the editor of the Washington Post that Frederick Olmsted, the former owner of the apartment in Vinegar Hill would write everyday to.

Glen Carter, Red’s tracker
Carter Wilson , the owner of Whistler Cruises

Duncan Prince is the last victim of Dr. Linus Creel
Officer Duncan is the cop that shows up at night in Cape May

Gregory is the name of the man following Katarina in Cape May
Nathan Gregory Platt was a NSA agent killed by Harrison Lee in pursuit of the skeleton Key
Craig Keen was the alias used by Christopher Maly to pose as Tom’s brother
Craig Gayner was the prisoner that gives Liz an entry into the Harem

Newton Phillips
Agent Phillip Rosenberg, the negotiator in 2.09
Laurel Hitchins 13′s year son is Phillip
Tom thought his real name was Jacob Phelps
Tommy Phelps was The Courier. He had a brother in prison.

Raymond “Red” Reddington
Alan Ray Rifkin
Alan Fitch

Kenneth Jasper was a Cabal member and the Director’s close associate
Jasper the cousin in The Kings of The Road

Richard Abraham, the Admiral who was Red’s roommate at the Naval Academy
Richard Kucera, a victim to be of Crispin Crandall
Cardinal Richards was the head of The Vehm and a money launderer
Judge Richard Denner was the judge hearing the case of the murder of Eugene Ames
Richard Gagnon was one of the kidnapp victims of Ruslan Denisov
Richard Kuklinski was a serial killer mentioned by Liz.

Elizabeth Scott Keen
Susan Scott Hargrave
Uncle Scott as in “ this is why I don’t go to family reunions. Aunt Lucile is always arguing with Buddy, Uncle Scott is drunk by noon, and someone’s hand is always in the wrong cookie jar. “

It's all just pieces of a much larger puzzle, and until all the pieces are laying in front of you...

Re: Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

I enjoyed reading that. All those connections

Re: Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

Recycled names...why did writer do this i wonder

Re: Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

I imagine there is something for this. It is staggering. That was just a partial list. I suspect there is something to it, because the writers are also capable of giving us unique names: Harold, Donald, Bruce, Melissa, Roderick, Hector, Stanley, Eleanor, Floriana, Seth, Newton, Shubie, Walter, Melinda, Caleb, Jolene, Lucy, Roger, Arthur, Naomi, June, Hilton, Anslo, Audrey, . Janice, Russell, Gideon, Brian, Walter Gary, Donna, Nathan, Milton, Emil, Patrick, Norah, Dante, Twila, Ezra, Oliver, Bernard, Monica, Linus, Angela, Ronald, Amber, Carrie Ann, Glen, Maddox etc

Abigail is the fake name of a wife that Red gives officer Duncan
The girl Harrison Lee is obsessed with in Ivan is Abby Fisher, daughter of David Fisher
Abby Issa was the assistant of Declan Carlton, seduced by Vanessa Cruz
Abigail Wilcox is one of the mothers who adopted a child, Dominc, from the Cyprus agency.

Father Aleksandr Nabiyev is an alias of Agent Burke of the CIA
Alexander Kirk is an alias of Konstantin Rostov
Alexander Raskovich is the senior intelligence office in the Russian Embassy in Washington DC
Alexei Fayer was a passanger in Berlin’s downed plane.
Alexi Koskov, a Russian oligarch with an extensive collection of stolen masterpieces. who tried to acquire the stolen Van Gogh in Earl King through Josephine Sullivan
one of Red’s man. He is called to assist with blowing up Kenneth Jasper’s yacht
Alejandro Medina was the man Giza Barrera was hiding from in 4.08
Alejandro Gomez was one of the victims of Peter Kinkaid
Alistair Pitt, the matchmaker.
Sasha Lau, one of the thieves of The Harem
Alexei Lagunov the Russian Bratva avtoritet who was the cause of Maureen Rowan going into witness protection.

Charlene Cooper, Harold’s wife
Charlotte Paterson was a woman abducted in The Cyprus Agency
Carla Reddington AKA Naomi Hyland (note; it could be also Karla)
Carolyn Givens Ph.D. the alias given by Red to Liz in Wujing
Carolyn Moss was the daughter of Danny Moss, one of the killers from Bobbitt
Carly was Clayton’s wife or girlfriend in Marvin Gerard
Carlos Trena was involved in The Stemaker case against Hector Lorca
Kun Phan, AKA “Cambodian Carl. part of Luther Braxton’s team
Karl Hoffman is the Good Samaritan killer
Charles T. Gellner
Charles, the owner of the cigar club, a friend of Red
Charlie Volkens was Karakurt’s brother in law.
Charles Lassiter was briefly,the adoptive father of Owen Mallory
Owen Mallory AKA Michael Shaw also used the name Charles Lassiter Jr.
Charlie was the boyfriend of Madeline Thornhill (one of the victim/killer triggered by Dr. Creel)
Lester Charles Conway was a victim/perp in Vanessa Cruz revenge scheme
Carlton is the goonish associate of Red keeping Dr. Reifler
Mason Carlton is one of the victims of Vanessa Cruz
Charles Gellner, an attorney whose identity is stolen by Silas Gouldsbery

Christopher Ericsson was the youngest son of the Ericsson, saved by Red
Christopher Maly was the real name of Tom’s fake brother Craig Keen.
Christopher Hargrave is Tom’s real name
Christine is the name of the owner of the Ballet Company that stages the performance of Swan Lake for Red
Chris Perez was one of the followers of Maddox Beck and the one that infects Samar.
One of the girls in the elevator in the scene where Gina beats Ressler was called Christina
The alias Red gives Liz when visiting Dr. Abraham Maltz is Christina
Christof Manheim is the alias used by Tom in Dresden
Chris Farnsworth, the CEP of Jasek Financial in The Harem.

Daniel Ryker: The US General whose daughter Beth was kidnapped to make him pay for bombing a chemical facility in Zamani’s village with the NATO forces.
One of the Hector Lorca victims, possibly body disposed of by the Stewmaker’ was Daniela Morales
In Dr. Covington the child he is doing surgery when Ressler and Liz arrive to arrest him is called Daniel.
One of the OREA agents killed by Karakurts bomb is named Daniel Allen
The head of the Vacarro Family in Alistair Pitt is Daniel Vacarro.
One of the Milton Bobbitt terminal killers was Danny.
One of Red’s man in 3.18 “Morgan, I have something for you and Danny.”
one of the fathers who adopted a child from the Cyprus Agency was called Daniel Wilcox. His wife was Abigail, and their child was Dominic.

Eugene Pavlenko is the alias Tom uses in 3.22
Eugene Ames if the Harbormaster who Tom kills in 2.08
Owen Ayers is the real name of Gaia

Elizabeth Scott Keen AKA Masha Rostova
Beth Ryker, General Daniel Ryker’s daughte
Isabella, Dembe’s daughter.
Ella (sometimes a form of Elizabeth): Dembe’s granddaughter
Ellie, Liz and Tom’s friend who saves Tom.
Lisa Thomopoulos was the girlfriend of the inspector in Sir Crispin Crandall
Elisa Rubin was the person with the natural immunity to Kurtz in Frederick Barnes
Lisa Neil was the alias used by Amy Dowd to build a life away from her parents in The Vehm
Lisa Molinera was one of the victims of Hector Lorca and dissolved by the StewMaker
Elise AKA Kate Lord, the Thrushes member
Isabella Stone, blacklister

James Maddox was the alcoholic engineer made a patsy by
Jacob Phelps was the name Christopher Hargrave AKA Tom Keen thought was his real name
James Wagner, one of the money launderers targeted by Cardinal Richards.
Theodores James was the full name of Lady’s ambrosia son
James is a pseudonym used by the good Samaritan.
James Covington, the surgeon turned criminal #89

John Horlbec: an alias of Nathaniel Wolffe.
John Reese: an alias created by The Scimitar AKA Walid Abu Sitta. Also a nod to the character in Person of interest.
One of the Abductees in The Longevity Iniciative named William was sitting with another patient named John Paul, who is the one who gives Liz the clue of the card.
Ivan the Russian hacker
Jack is the name of the deceased owner of the Cape May hotel with Ida.
Jack, used as a generic name for a man, is what Cash calls Red.
Jackie was Abby Fisher’s friend.
Johan Halbeck in Miles McGrath uneasy employment
Ian Bartely and the beaker
Ian Pugachevsk
Janice was Henry’s wife. The beef Stroganoff one.
Josephine Moliere, Red’s lover
Josehine Sullivan, the art dealer whose identity Liz takes to infiltrate Earl king’s auction
Jose Perez, exiled Angolan dictator
Joseph Gibson, one of the victims of The Vehm
Joseph P. Adelson is the partner of the murdered guy in Drexel
Joseph Batouala Kenyan one of the men killed by Peter Kinkaid
Joseph Riggs, one of the Deer hunter’s victims
Joseph McCray AKA Leonard Caul
Josh Mandell. the reporter Connolly ask Cooper to leak documents to
Seth Nelson, the NSA analyst Red finds in The Courier
Jesse, Red’s associate following Tom with the spider tattoo that Tom sends Red

Kate Kaplan
Katarina Rostova AKA ?? Liz’s mother and presumed wife of Konstantin Rostov and daughter of Dom. Her father inscribed the locket as Ekaterina.
Kate Eliison is also one of the abducted woman in the Galatea Clinic in The Cyprus Agency
Kaja Tomczak, the “formula” in the Monarch Douglas Bank who was blessed with hyperthymesia.
Catherine Madrczyk one of the clients of The Alchemist
Katja is the Summer Palace Keeper or so she says.
Karen Brodine is the last victim of The Good Samaritan
Catherine Hayne is the real name or an alias of Lucy Brooks AKA Jolene Parker
Kate Lord is the name or one of the aliases of Elise, the spy from Kirk
Karen Rose
Kate Morgan AKA Margot Rochet.

Elizabeth Keen birth name is apparently Masha Rostova
Molly is one of the alias given to her by Red in General Ludd
Molly Trestle was the daughter of The Alchemist
Maria’s was a restaurant Liz said she went to in Annapolis
Mary Henning is the wife of the last victim of The Deer Hunter
Mary Jones was one of the children taken by Lady Ambrosia
Mary is the housewife/ money counterfeiter for Red
Maureen Rowan is Kate’s sister.

the secret son of Geoff Perl, is called Matthew. The one that hunts and skins people. He plays in the bathtub with a red boat and a. totem pole
one of the children in Lady Ambrosia is called Matthew, an unwanted child who has one parent that wanted to get rid of him, and another who did not. He is the one that gets “transformed” as the case opens
Matt Buckley, the “real” name Tom uses when he meets Asher Sutton, after Asher spots his fake-fake one: Mr. Wainright.
Mattias Solomon: a CIA asset turned cabal asset, later Scottie’s asset
Matthew is the “goon” who is a chess player and an associate of Red
Matt Skrdell is Aram;’s college friend who used a Ouija board.
Matthew Hadj was Sonia Bloom’s partner who was killed by Silas Goldsboro

one of the CIA agents killed by Wujing: Michael Alvarado
The boy in The good Samaritan killer is Michael.
Tassels, Audrey’s fiancee is Michael. Ressler calls him tassels.
Michael Shaw was the real name of Owen Mallory
the man who was abducting people for Sir Crispin Crandall and who is interrogated by Peter is Michael Karpos.
One of the engineers that get kidnapped by Zal Bin Hasaan is Michael Hastings
Red wanted to be a scout because of the songs and he request one (albeit with a gun and a fork in the hand. Gerald sings for him: Michael, row your boat ashore –hallelujah Michael, row the boat ashore hallelujah sister, help to trim the sails hallelujah sister, help to trim the sails….St. Michael rows the boat in the miracle at the sea of Galilee, the painting which sale Red was brokering in Gina Zanetakos
The bomb expert trying to disable the bomb around Alan’s neck was named Mike.
the alias used by The Alchemist to kill Pjotr was Mikkleson.
Mikhail Kozlov was the first intelligence officer Liz talks to in the Russian Embassy
the alias used by Red in 3.21 is Michael Troughton
Milos Pavel Kinsky AKA Fake Berlin
Milos Kirchhoff AKA Berlin
Miles Mc Grath

Nik Korpas, Liz’s former suitor who became part of Red emergency team when he accepted a half a million for saving Red’s life.
Niko Demarkian, Red’s former partner who betrayed him
Dr Nikolaus Vogel AKA "Space Agent UD4126” the virologist who worked with the brilliant madmen Dr. Sanders in developing the weaponized Cullen virus
Nikolai ? someone related to Vasilia Patinka, possibly her husband
Little Nikos, a West Texas’ favorite bail bondsman, and a friend of Mr. Kaplan
Niki, a woman Craig said Tom talked about.
Nicole is the alias given to Liz by Red in Madeline Pratt
Nick’s Pizza, as Red’s number appears.
Viktor Fokin, the FSB defector who was killed in the Boston hotel.
Victor is the name used by the Good Samaritan to get his last victim
Nassim Bakhas birth name was Nassir, meaning the victorious
one of Red’s uncles: Just like my uncle Vic on a Saturday night
Thomas Vincent Keen AKA Christopher Hargrave
Victoria Cronin, the scrubbed down identity Mossad set for Samar Navabi

Richard Abraham, the Admiral who was Red’s roommate at the Naval Academy
Richard Kucera, a victim to be of Crispin Crandall
Cardinal Richards was the head of The Vehm and a money launderer
Judge Richard Denner was the judge hearing the case of the murder of Eugene Ames
Richard Gagnon was one of the kidnapp victims of Ruslan Denisov
Richard Kuklinski was a serial killer mentioned by Liz.
Dr. Richard Kucera was abducted and about to be killed by Carndall

Rose Janus AKA Jessica Van Zandt the girl The Caretaker kidnapped after killing her father and raised as his daughter
Rosa Heredia is Reddington manicurist, also a trauma surgeon
Maria Rosa is related to Manny in Cuba
Rosemary is an assistant to Judge Richard Denner
Rosemary Kinkaid was the first wife of Geoff Perl AKA Sean Salter and mother of Peter and Matthew Kinkaid

Theodore Bundy. the glass smith who could not sell a vase in one of Red’s stories
Theodore Caldwell, the lawyer from The Cyprus Agency who gets hit by a bus
Theodore is the son of Lady Ambrosia. the “defective” son, who lived, while the “perfect” son drowned
Teddy Laskin is one of Red’s associate in the Port business.
Teddy Brimley is Red’s torture expert
Ted Caldwell was the attorney at the Cyprus Agency who runs into traffic
Ted Bundy, an amazing craftsman
Fyodor the man Red douses with vodka and then shoots.

Tom Vincent Keen, a legend created by Tom to protect Elizabeth Keen, under a contract from Reddington.
Thomas P. Connolly, the US Attorney General who was a cabal member
Tommy Markin - Ressler’s father’s partner who betrayed him
Tommy Phelps, the Courier’s real name.



It's all just pieces of a much larger puzzle, and until all the pieces are laying in front of you...

Re: Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

Again. WOW! Tessa...Do you stay up all night to do this? It's very impressive. I love it but it's driving my discussion group nuts trying to figure it out. Hope I can continue to see your posts elsewhere after this one is pulled out from under us.

Re: Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

Thanks, I do not stay up, I do a little at a time, helped by a rather above average memory. I am not sure what it means but I suspect that when a name is not unique it means that is not the real name. see Harold. Donald. Dembe. etc.

I think the repeated names and last names are a chain. A link to something. I am not sure if it means something. I am working on the message the blacklisters numbers tell Liz.

I offered my soon to be killed muut discussion group. I am not sure I like reddit at all. I tried it a long time ago and disliked it. The refugees have me blacklisted and I dislike their rules and enforced niceties.

Not sure where to go after this.

It's all just pieces of a much larger puzzle, and until all the pieces are laying in front of you...

Re: Red: Natalie, do you mind if I sit here for a moment?

There is a small board at http://js-spader.proboards.com/ that has a spot dedicated toThe Blacklist. Not much has been going on there regarding the show so some thoughtful conversation would be interesting. It is run by a gal named Lynda. If several of you joined in order to discuss the show I think she would enjoy the conversation. It has an easy flowing format for conversation. Just a thought for those who enjoy really getting into the meat of the show. A prerequisite for joining would be enjoying James Spader. :)
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