The Great Beauty : Am I the only one who found it boring and didn't like it?

Am I the only one who found it boring and didn't like it?

I think just the director of photography and production design did a good job to make beautiful scenes and with some beautiful songs. But the movie itself wasn't touchable to me at all. If it was supposed to be a fictional movie, so why did they try to talk about real things. I didn't find it realistic. And when I came to this message board, I was shocked that everybody calls it a great peace of work. It was very boring movie too. It's just my opinion and I don't mean to snub another people opinion. I just want to know that why do you like it and am I the only one who found it very boring?



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Re: Am I the only one who found it boring and didn't like it?

Dear Shirin, No, you're not the only one. I felt the same way. However, with an Oscar for Best Foreign Film,
no one will care what we think. Red-125

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no. it's we who shouldn't care what the academy thinks. sure, sometimes they agree with your views. but everyone's different. like what you like, listen to others' reviews, be swayed or not.

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Dear drmatt, Absolutely! Red-125

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This is the first movie I walked out of when it became obvious that nothing was really going to happen.

I don't know why this is so highly rated, but I suspect that for some people it's a matter of claiming to like this "masterpiece" because they think it's sophisticated.

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I agree with all the previous posters. I also found it extremely boring and overrated. It is just a matter of personal taste and opinion, of course, but that is how I also felt.


"Humans fear what they don't understand, and they hate what they fear."

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The "I found it boring" part I can live with, but calling this overrated on this site is true blasphemy.

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"Blasphemy: the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk"

Not just blasphemy, but true blasphemy. Very sophisticated comment. Red-125

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Thanks, Oxford. With cinema (and art in general) being a sacred thing to me and many others, calling "overrated" the only foreign movie submitted to the Oscars with real artistic merits is blasphemy in its true form, and not just the word and the way people misuse it nowadays.

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Agreed!

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Dear Ishtarthanks for your reply. Think "Emperor's New Clothes." Red-125

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A lot happened, you just didn't notice.

That's how sophisticated this movie is.

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It's funny how people don't allow other to have an opinion.

The movie is boring, and it's not because we "didn't notice", is because everything we notice was boring.

I understood the movie, I notice many things and found they all boring.

I like deep thinks, sophisticated thoughts, etc. But this movie was unsucesfull in all of these things.

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It's sad instead that everyone can have an opinion, even those who aren't enough equipped to ensure that they don't do damage when they open they're mouths. You do.
I have an opinion too. And not only about the movie, but also about you having actually understood the movie. You didn't, and that's for sure. You can say otherwise, but I just don't think so.
If you had, you would like it.
Deep things and sophisticated thoughts? I would like to understand exactly what you're talking about, cause I haven't seen any of that in the movie I watched. Maybe you meant long shots and cynicism, which were abundant throughout. Too bad that neither of those, as used in this movie, is meant for us to think, but only for us to sit and take it, just as if we had found the titular beauty. You? You would probably start thinking about it and try to analyze it, to see if there's a deeper meaning to it. You're free to waste your time doing that, Joe.
A better equipped person than yourself would shut up and enjoy it. Even the title "The Great Beauty", should be a hint at how to really enjoy this movie, but you people just don't get it. Then you have the balls to come up here and start criticizing a fantastic piece of cinema with phrases that border on complete nonsense, fueled only but what is clear to be your problem: ignorance in "movie history". I suggest you watch a few more movies, from different schools and era's of film-making, before you try to "understand things" and start sounding like a fool.
It's a better movie than half of the American ones shown at the Awards, and it was the most peculiar and best crafted of all the foreign ones. Plus, it was the only one that didn't look like a fu#@ing documentary.

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Well, you would make a great dictator I think! cheers.gif
We found it boring. If you like it, that's fine. Everybody has an opinion. But you can't tell that we didn't like it becoz we couldn't understand it. That's our opinion and every opinion is respectable.




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Re: Am I the only one who found it boring and didn't like it?

Yes, many people tell me so. Anybody tells you that you would make a poor judge? No? Well, they should.
You're entitled to your opinion, as I have stated (I thought clearly enough) before, and I have the right not to respect it when I think it's bullsh@t. Agree? Yes? Cool. If you gave one valid argument to support it, I might consider it, but you don't, so why should I?
You, like many others on these boards, have simply only stumbled upon the wrong movie, because it's not the kind of story you're used to, and it's painfully clear to see. You're all screaming it in every pointless comment you posted. If it was the kind of movie you're used to, or simply what you were expecting (because that is the problem nowadays: formula, the killer of the imagination), you wouldn't have to try and "be touched" by it,like you said, but it would simply work, it would just speak to you and you should only listen.
If it doesn't, it means you're clearly missing the required receptors. It's no sin, mind you. No movie on this planet ever made everyone agree; just don't go smearing *beep* on a movie that is objectively one of the best to come out in 2013 (and I mean worldwide) by saying that only 2 people in the whole cast and TD made a good job, or saying that "it's boring". YOU only paid attention to those aspects, while missing many other great things. YOU got bored. YOU didn't understand what the movie was saying.
Watching a film like this and saying that only two people involved in it made a good job only makes you sound like someone whose knowledge in movie-making is extremely limited, and you don't want to give this impression now, do you?
Art deserves and requires objectivity and knowledge from those who are supposed to enjoy it not to sound ridiculously ignorant when they comment on it, but many people in these boards clearly haven't these qualities.
That's all I'm saying, and it's my opinion, which you don't have to respect if you don't want to. Sounds to you any more like dictatorship than what you said before? Not to me, really.

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Easy bro! Why are you so angry? I was kidding about the dictatorship. Well you didn't tell me a valid reason that why you like either. Agree? Cool
I started this discussion to know why people like it. But none of you ( lovers of this movie ) gave me a good reason why you like it. so like you <> Even if you think sb's opinion is bullsh@t, you still have to respect that and just express your disagreement.

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There we go again with this things I "have to" do. I don't have to do anything, and neither do you or anybody else. I don't "have to" respect anyone's opinion, I just will if I think that the person is making sense, or won't if I think that they aren't. I think it's my prerogative, and not some sort of unwritten rule of life.
And if I gave you the impression that your dictatorship comment made me angry, think again. It actually made me smile. Is it possible that my comment, which I wrote while in the most relaxed state of mind possible, felt angry to you because you were angry at me not agreeing with you? Makes sense? Or maybe you imgined a very angry person writing that stuff, but I assure you I wasn't. I am just very passionate about the movies I like.
Why I like this movie: because it has a whole bunch of qualities that had disappeared completely from the Modern Movie-Maker's Manual every other director seems to be following instructions from. It has an original, deeply personal story which is told in a way that is weird enough to keep me interested, and at the same time simple enough to not make me feel lost. All told through a main character's performance that is absolutely brilliant, and I can't praise Toni Servillo enough for what he's done on this movie. Definitely better than any other actor I've seen perform this year, including McConaughey and Mikkelsen (whom I both loved in their respective movies DBB and Hunt).
The direction was absolutely flawless, from the long shots to the slow zoom-ins, to the more "acrobatic" stuff, like Ramona's death scene (most peculiar and most interesting death scene I have EVER seen filmed). Photography: don't even need to comment on that one, and the editing either. If I need to explain why they were so perfect, it means I am talking to a dead body.
All the main characters gave great performances, especially Romano, and the minor characters too, like the Neapolitan sleazebag whose name I don't remember, the plastic surgeon and Ramona's father, they were all great. Being Italian and having disliked Italian actors for most of my life, I was very pleasantly surprised this time around.
The "moral" of the story, if one can call it so: to me, it's simply an invitation to sit back and feel instead of over-thinking and criticizing everything we see. I feel that this movie is an invitation to stop for a minute and make sure we haven't been looking in the wrong direction all along. An invitation to appreciate the small things we had and those that we still have and give for granted, and search for beauty in all we see. It's an invitation to be humble (one I myself can't seem to be able to follow :P) and humanitarian, rather than pompous and selfish, and finally an invitation to SHARE the joy that we may get from it.
The director itself has been awesome and letting transpire these feelings through his own direction, and coating an already extremely original, simple little story with a generous self-analysis that anyone could apply to themselves, if they only wanted to, and if they only cared.
And I can really feel that he's been following his own "invitations" step-by-step while filming a movie that is personal, beautiful and inspiring, and most of all, unlike anything that had been filmed last year. Or many years before that, for that matter.

Here's why I like this movie so much, and if you read carefully, you will also find in my rant the reason why I do not want to accept that people diss this movie in particular (no, it's not because I'm Italian ;) )

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"Plus, it was the only one that didn't look like a fu#@ing documentary."

I feel you! Seems like every artsy movie nowadays makes a point of using handheld camera and realistic lighting, which is a shame. The Great Beauty respects cinema as an illusion, which is one of the many good things about the film.

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@ Daniel and several others who state with conviction that "the movie is boring."

You're approaching this the wrong way. YOU find La Grande Bellezza boring. That doesn't mean it IS a boring film. Do you see the difference?

Here's an example: For years of my youth I automatically disregarded basketball as a boring sport. Any game where it's so easy for 2m tall men to score has no tension so therefore I labelled it boring. Was I right and 100 million world-wide basketball fans were wrong? As a teen I certainly thought so and summarily dismissed the game.

However, a decade later I made a terrific friend who was a nut for basketball. This was a smart person whose tastes I respected: I didn't always agree with what he liked/disliked but because he became my best friend I wanted to know why he liked the things he did, including basketball. So I asked questions about the game, watched him and professionals play, learned a few of the rules and playsand wouldn't you know it? My opinion of basketball changed. It wasn't boring. For 25 years my automatic response was, "Basketball IS boring," but I came to realise that it's not the the game that is boring, I was bored because I didn't put in the effort to understand it. The problem was not the sport, it was my ignorance.

This is my response when people say, "Movie X is boring." No, YOU were bored. And that's fine. You don't have to like everything but to objectively declare a movie is boring completely undermines the subjective approach essential to art.

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Yes. We found it boring. If you like it, that's fine. Everybody has an opinion. But you can't tell that we didn't like it becoz we couldn't understand it. That's our opinion and every opinion is respectable.

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Re: Am I the only one who found it boring and didn't like it?

Actually, he can, and he is right. The only reason anybody would find this boring is because they couldn't understand it. The film has a special dynamic to it which, if followed attentively, becomes wonderfully clear. Why are they leading this lifestyle? Why hasn't Jep written another novel? Who is the mysterious neighbour? These are plotlines waiting to be discovered, embroidered inside the human nature. Pair that with excellent script, directing and cinematography, and you have a true piece of art in your hands. You have to be extremely disinterested in human psyche (and consequently the truth) to be bored by this film.

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But you can't tell that we didn't like it becoz we couldn't understand it.

When people express a simple positive or negative response to a movie, I like to give them a chance to show their understanding of it. Because how a person understands a movie is really the most interesting and important thing, not their conclusion about it.

True, rigorous criticism is primarily about the process, the reflecting, and less about the positive or negative conclusion. It is possible for someone to offer a conclusion I don't share, yet they still have valuable insights to share as part of their analysis their understanding.

To say "It's boring" or "It's moving" is just an expression of pleasure or displeasure; it tells me nothing about the quality of the intellect and sensibility of the person who made the conclusion.

So if, especially after multiple posts, a person only offers a conclusion (either positive or negative) but never volunteers their understanding of a movie, then it's only reasonable to be skeptical that they really do understand.

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Dear Daniel,

Thanks for your reply. Apparently, I wasn't alone about this film. Red-125

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''nothing was really going to happen''its not a masterpiece but you better stick to hollywood movies if always want something to happenwhen i was watching this movie i felt like talking to a wise old man with so much life experience and he would tell me to not waste my life on things that don't matter..that if i find love i should try everything to make it work or i will end up a sad old man still looking for the 'great beauty' of life

Re: Am I the only one who found it boring and didn't like it?

Here is a good rule of thumb for you which applies pretty much to everything: if people like something and you don't understand why, the problem is almost always with your understanding, not their pretentious attempt to seem sophisticated.

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Re: Am I the only one who found it boring and didn't like it?

Well, in part it's because you're not Italian, and this movie includes many citations and some notable cameos which are mostly known only in Italy. I personally loved the movie, and found it slightly "Fellini's" style, also in Italian the dialogues are extremely deep, and in many occasions they live space to your own interpretation, making you interact and be attentive, as if you were actually there. Then add that most of the actors on this movies, are real stars in Italy. All in all it's a movie in which, either you fit in the mood, otherwise you won't like it. PS: Just a curiosity, La Grande Bellezza didn't win many important awards over here, in Italy.

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I am Italian and have been following Sorrentino since "L'uomo in pi", and I agree with the foreign posters on this thread.
This movie borders on self-parody of the best assets of a Sorrentino movie (the amazing cinematography, the scathing dialogue, and Toni Servillo.). I have watched it three times and I still hate it with a passion. His best movie will forever be The Consequences of Love; I fear he'll never reach that state of grace again, which is sad considering he's still so young.

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Yes, you didn't like the story. Like everyone else here, because they thought this movie was going to have a conventional plot, like a "regular" movie.
Sorry it disappointed you, as there is no plot here, but just a series of events.
Funny you mention the previous work of Sorrentino, as I also am a big fan and have watched all his movies. It's all great, actually, but in each one of those films there was at least one or two cringe-worthy scenes that made my eyes roll back. That sort of backfire is completely missing here. This movie was absolutely perfect, and it flowed like olive oil on a tomato skin; you just couldn't get through it. Most likely because you wanted a story.

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I'm Italian and I'm deeply sorry for this unfair success of this piece of crap.

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That's cool. Luckily you weren't on jury duties, or "Blue Is The Warmest Color" would have won, like it did at Cannes. Now, THAT is really amateurish film-making.

Btw, I am Italian too, and I'm proud of Sorrentino for being one of the few film-makers left with something personal to say, and who doesn't have to rely on "happened events" or "true life stories" to make his movies, and make them well. Regardless of people understanding his language or not. The people at the Oscars understood, for once.

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you just couldn't get through it. Most likely because you wanted a story.


Oh, well excuse us for expecting the movie to have something that all movies are SUPPOSED to have: a story.

And make this perfectly clear for us, would you?: You are admitting that the movie has no story whatsoever, correct?

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First off, who says that there must be a story in order to have a movie? You want a list of awesome movies with NO storyline at all? I fear it would be wasted on you.

Well, you tell me: does La Grande Bellezza have a storyline? Have you even watched the movie?
I start doubting that some of you haven't even watched this and are just starting threads in order to open their mouths and let the crap roll out.

Is this movie telling a story, with a developing plot, or is it merely a collection of events with little to no connection between them? Is there any connection, story-wise, between Verdone's character, Ferilli's character or the saint-like nun? No. Do their interactions with Servillo's character construe a plot or alter events in any way? No. Nothing Servillo does or goes through creates an effect on what's going to happen later, which means that there is no plot (look at Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas for another example of a movie often regarded as having a plot, but which in reality hasn't one at all, as the characters mainly just go through a series of unconnected events, while on altered states of perception, only to move from point A to point B, and in the end nothing really happens except in the main character's own experience).
So, what's the story here? There is no story, except inside the main character, through his realization of having spent his life looking in the wrong direction.

Kinda sound familiar, uh?

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First off, who says that there must be a story in order to have a movie?


Anyone who likes their movies to be about something. I shouldn't have to explain this, but a story is a key component for a film to be a film. Yes, there are movies that have terrible stories, but they have stories nonetheless.


You want a list of awesome movies with NO storyline at all? I fear it would be wasted on you.


Try me. Name a few movies that are legitimately good, but have no story, and I will give them a watch.


Have you even watched the movie?


Yes, I have watched the movie, and I could even tell you what happens in some scenes (if you'd like), but it would be impossible for me to tell you how they form a cohesive narrative, if they do so at all, and I seriously doubt they do.


Nothing Servillo does or goes through creates an effect on what's going to happen later, which means that there is no plot.


In other words, none of what he does matters in any way. And I would agree with you here, but then you follow that with:

There is no story, except inside the main character, through his realization of having spent his life looking in the wrong direction.


You yourself have admitted that the movie has no plot or story, so how can the movie be about anything? It can't.


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I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but you replied to your own questions (all of them) when you said "Abstract? Screw that."
It's clear that you're not willing to put any effort into interpreting a scene, phrase, facial expression or random occurrence shown, unless it's part of a bigger picture involving a plot. And that's alright by me, if it works for you.

I know many people who will turn off a movie that I consider great just because they don't like/don't understand/don't care about the story that's unfolding before them. Of course, a collection of (very loosely connected) "vignettes" can't really be called a story, as in this movie's case. But a story does NOT make a movie be or not be about anything.

But you even go as far as dismissing my hypothesis that what you're supposed to be looking at, what really changes as the movie goes on, is INSIDE the main character rater than around him, as the proof that the movie is about nothing. And there I completely disagree with you. Come on, man, that's as shallow a statement as can be. Nothing wrong with you not being interested, but you can't say that the movie is about nothing just because all the "episodes" that the protagonist goes through have no effect on, or relation to each other. Even a masterpiece like The Seventh Seal is ultimately about a man, or a group of people, moving from point A to B, through a nasty background, and with only the main character's question "what are we alive for" as the main goal of the movie throughout. A question that in the end isn't even answered. Are you gonna call that movie "crap" too? Or haven't you watched that movie yet?

Why should I even try you with other similar titles, then? It would be wasted time, as I suspected from the beginning, because it was clear that the storyline is THE first and most important thing you look for in movies. You just stumbled upon the wrong movie, and me giving you more similar titles will only waste more of your time. I'll go ahead and share them with you if you insist though.

I am glad, though, that many other people do not stop at the storyline aspect when judging a film, because I'm one who doesn't and I know that I'm not alone. To each his own, but you shouldn't call crap something as meticulously crafted as this film. It's nonsense.

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I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but you replied to your own questions (all of them) when you said "Abstract? Screw that."


Whoops, that's my signature, I should probably space it away from the rest of my post.


It's clear that you're not willing to put any effort into interpreting a scene, phrase, facial expression or random occurrence shown, unless it's part of a bigger picture involving a plot. And that's alright by me, if it works for you.


I tried as best as I can to understand what the movie was trying to convey through it's characters dialogue, etc., but I just couldn't do it. The lone exception to this is when the main character visits that woman who speaks about vibrations (or whatever the word was). My interpretation was that the filmmakers were criticizing artists who either discussed topics or ideas they themselves don't know anything about, or made art that even they don't know the meaning of, so that it's entirely dependent on audience interpretation. Personally, I can't stand those kinds of people or the things they make, but if you feel differently, that's fine by me.


Of course, a collection of (very loosely connected) "vignettes" can't really be called a story, as in this movie's case. But a story does NOT make a movie be or not be about anything.



Maybe I should rephrase what I said earlier. A movie does not necessarily have to have a story to be about something. Granted, that makes it easier for the film to have meaning, but I suppose it's not a requirement. However, at the very least, some sort of theme should be running through the film. There were a few scenes where it felt like they were establishing a theme, but as soon as it got to that point, the film moves to the next scene.


my hypothesis that what you're supposed to be looking at, what really changes as the movie goes on, is INSIDE the main character rater than around him


I'd buy that hypothesis if the main character didn't seem disinterested for a majority of the film.


it was clear that the storyline is THE first and most important thing you look for in movies.


That depends on what genre of film i'm watching. For example, if I'm watching an action movie, I focus on how good the action is. A good story can make an action movie even better (Terminator 2 comes to mind), but it is secondary, in my opinion.


me giving you more similar titles will only waste more of your time. I'll go ahead and share them with you if you insist though.


I do insist, actually.


To each his own, but you shouldn't call crap something as meticulously crafted as this film. It's nonsense.


You say it's meticulously crafted, I say it wasn't crafted at all, so we'll have to agree to disagree.


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Sorry, but I disagree with mostly everything you just wrote. And I'm not going to say how and why, because it's pointless. It will just start another endless discussion about the same thing, and more than likely neither you nor I will change our minds. This movie simply doesn't do it for you, and if it doesn't, then I wouldn't recommend watching another plotless film, because you'll end up hating that too, eventually.
But there is one thing you said that really bugs me, and that's that "it wasn't crafted at all". I'm sorry, but that makes it sound to me like you really do not know the first thing about cinema, and again, I won't try to explain why, as I have the feeling that I'd be wasting our time. No offense intended if it indeed is so, as many people don't know anything about film-making, it's no crime.

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You know what? Yeah, we'll end the discussion here. It'll just end in a stalemate, which isn't fun for anyone. I would still like to hear a few of your recommendations, regardless. I'm willing to give anything a try.

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Try these:

http://www.imdb.com/board/10060107/?ref_=nm_knf_i2
http://www.imdb.com/board/10056801/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Two perfect examples of movies where the story happens inside the characters, rather than outside, and all the events (or dreams in some cases) depicted are there just so you can try and imagine how they'll affect the characters in the end.

Have fun.

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Any chance you can link me to somewhere where I can watch the one that's over 3 hours?

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It's on YouTube in 2 parts. Here's part 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PAhbcy8mP4

And part 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwCJoEJFW5g&feature=relmfu

It has much more of a storyline as compared to The Great Beauty, but you will notice after a while that it's not about what the main character does to make events happen, as much as how events unfolding around him change his perception of the world. Much like The Great Beauty.

You will need some time and patience to sit through all 3 hours, but then you'll have witnessed a cinematic masterpiece.

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People like you are increasing in numbers and that makes me sad really.

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Do you mean people who can't stand films like this, or bronies?

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The story in the movie is BEAUTY, or beautyfullness, how some people can find it every where and in everyone. To me its a great movie, as I can remember La vita e bella, or american beauty. I think is a new type of art film, where feelings, concepts and human attitude, are the leading roles.
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