Politics : RACISM DOESN'T EXIST BECAUSE RACE DOESN'T EXIST

Or to be more specific, there is only one race, the human race. It has already been established by scientists more than half a century ago, yet people are still latching on to this false belief that there are different races. Stop perpetuating this false belief that melanin count and ethnicity dictates race, it doesnt! Besides, There is more differences in genetics within ethnicities than actually between ethnicities.

WE ARE ALL THE SAME, DON'T BE BOUGHT ON BY A FALSE BELIEF! DON'T LET THE GOVERNMENT AND MEDIA TRICK YOU, THEY WANT YOU TO SEPARATE YOURSELVES! USEING THE WORD RACE IN CONTEXT OF COLOR AND ETHNICITY ONLY PERPETUATES MORE EXCLUSIVISM AND CAUSE MORE PREJUDICE AND DISCRIMINATION! TO DO SO MAKES YOU PART OF THE PROBLEM! DON'T BE FOOLED! FIGHT THE POWERS AT BE, AND BE INCLUSIVE!!!!!

Disclaimer: I am not saying that there isn't prejudice and discrimination based on skin pigment and ethnicity. I'm saying that it isn't and shouldn't be called racism, for racism would really be someone who's prejudice against an entire race, like some who Hates dogs, or a school shooter. We've caught up to science in so many other aspects, so why not this one?

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

Problem with this idea, as noble as it is, is you're literally going to have to undo generations of prejudice and instilled belief to make it so.



"Paranoia is just another word for ignorance."
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson.

Yup, but it's not impossible, you just gotta spread the word! Too bad the media is spreading the opposite, as they like to insight people for profit. Imma make a facebook page about it, make some real change

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

It's not impossible, hell I like the notion. It's going to be an uphill fight though.

I may be older than you, probably am, but I remember the time not really that long ago where people said racism will gradually end as the older generation who was raised in that atmosphere died off. Turns out they re-surged against all predictions.

This disheartens me and is why I'm not too optimistic, but you do what you want and should try and spread this message.


"Paranoia is just another word for ignorance."
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson.

I will and am spreading the word. As silly as it sounds, I've sort of made it my mission. And even though I sounded sarcastic about making a facebook page about it, I am actually going to make one. Which is pretty big for me, since I have been anti-social media all my life and still don't have any.

I was actually going to mention older generations dieing off, but as you said, there has been a resurgence of sorts.

I have it in my head that if you want to change the way people think, you have to change the way we speak. By having all this exclusivistic race rhetoric, people actually come to believe that they belong to to different races, and all the superiority and inferiority complexes and biases that come with it. If people stop speaking of race as the social construction that it is, then we may just start seeing people as the same. Samething with class and caste. Hell, a majority of the world have gotten rid of the idea of caste systems, only to ironically replace it with a class system.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

There is nothing new in what you are saying. It has all been tried and failed before.

Even if nobody could tell races apart (they can), people are divided by culture and language.

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I have it in my head that if you want to change the way people think, you have to change the way we speak.

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This notion informs the idea of political correctness. George Orwell was making fun of it as early as the 1940s.

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If people stop speaking of race as the social construction that it is, then we may just start seeing people as the same.

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I first came across this idea in the writings of Ashley Montagu, who died last century. It's wrong. The more we understand about genetics, the better we can tailor medical treatments for subgroups of humanity, and ultimately for individuals.

Unfortunately for you, your ideas are as flawed as creationism.

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This notion informs the idea of political correctness. George Orwell was making fun of it as early as the 1940s.

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It's only Orwellian if it's done by state sponsored coercion, if it's just a natural progression it's just lanagauge and societal mores changing as they always have and will.



"Paranoia is just another word for ignorance."
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson.

I don't deny that people are seperated y languages and culture. I just believe to consider them a different race is flawed. Genetic makeup or how one physically looks doesn't dictate culture.

As for orwell, he definitely was not making fun of the concept of changing people's thinking by changing the way they speak, For he knew it to be true. That you could control people with language. And that is exactly what has been going on with race rhetoric.

And about genetics, you may be right that different subgroups of humanity and how genetics influences medicine and disease, but as I said there is still more genetic variations withon ethnicities than there are between ethnicities.

But please, elaborate on how my belief is flawed. I would honestly like to know why you think that.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

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As for orwell, he definitely was not making fun of the concept of changing people's thinking by changing the way they speak,

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You think Orwell was serious about replacing "really bad" with "doubleplusungood?" Winston Smith "changed his mind" because he was tortured.

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That you could control people with language

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No, this idea is discredited. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity.

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still more genetic variations withon ethnicities than there are between ethnicities.

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This is often stated as though it makes differences between ethnic groups irrelevant, but it doesn't.

To see this, consider all women at age 25 and all men at age 25. Within that group of men, the difference between the tallest and the shortest will be a few feet. Within the group of women, the difference between the tallest and shortest will also be a few feet.

Now consider the average height of the women and the average height of the men. The difference between these two averages will be less than a foot.

So, here too the difference within each group is greater than the difference between the groups. Nonetheless, it is still relevant that men tend to be taller than women.

If feminists decided to ignore this reality, then when women failed, on average, to do tasks as well as men when height was a critical factor, they would blame an invisible sexist patriarchy instead of understanding the underlying biological reality.

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You think Orwell was serious about replacing "really bad" with "doubleplusungood?" Winston Smith "changed his mind" because he was tortured.

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Uh, I'm not sure I get your meaning there. But from my own interpretation of 1984, it seems that Orwell knew the power language had over people, such as why the whole removing words from the dictionary in order to limit people's thought, and such.

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No, this idea is discredited. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity

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From reading that wiki page (interesting article by the way, thanks for the link), I surmise that the idea wasn't discredited at all, just the hard forms of it, while the soft forms seems to have more evidence towards them. So it neither disproves nor proves what I am saying, othe than saying it is not nearly as absolute as I have stated. So I guess you have somewhat of a point.

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This is often stated as though it makes differences between ethnic groups irrelevant, but it doesn't.

To see this, consider all women at age 25 and all men at age 25. Within that group of men, the difference between the tallest and the shortest will be a few feet. Within the group of women, the difference between the tallest and shortest will also be a few feet.

Now consider the average height of the women and the average height of the men. The difference between these two averages will be less than a foot.

So, here too the difference within each group is greater than the difference between the groups. Nonetheless, it is still relevant that men tend to be taller than women

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And your right about this too. This fact doesn't make the differences or similarities irrelevant, particularly when it comes to disease and medicine, it becomes highly relevant. But my point is not about medicine or the pragmatic and practical value the genetic differences can make, such as height. My point is that humans are 99.99% genetically identical. And that differences that people see in phenotype is exteremly minimal compared to the rest of our genotype. But since that what we see of the gynotype is expressed (phenotype) through our physical appearance, it makes people think that genetic variation is much much greater than it actually is, when in actuality our physical appearance is only a very small part of gynotype. So while we may see other ethnicities of being physically different in phenotype, what we can't see makes us much more alike than what we can see makes us different.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

Come on guys, you say my ideas are as flawed as creationism, yet don't care to elaborate why. What I am saying is actually backed up by science, so how can it be as flawed as creationism?

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

If it was as easy as "spreading the word," racism would have disappeared a long time ago.

Have you ever noticed that the people who insist there is no such thing as race never shut the *beep* up about it.

It's an ersatz religion.

How is my thesis factually incorrect? What fact am I denying? It's not enough just to say that I'm factually wrong, you have to at least explain why. Race as we perceive it doesn't actually exist. Its a man made construct based on a false premise.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

Race, or subspecies, are recognized in biology.

You wish to deny that, but your desire to do so conflicts with biological science. There is genetic variation caused by many generation in geographic isolation.

What idiot got my post deleted?

Live long and prosper.

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Race, or subspecies, are recognized in biology.

You wish to deny that, but your desire to do so conflicts with biological science. There is genetic variation caused by many generation in geographic isolation.

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I'm not denying that there are subspecies. Modern humans are a subspecies afterall. We are homo sapiens sapiens, a subspecies of the species homo sapiens. Other subspecies of homo sapiens were the homo sapiens idulto, and as some believe, homo sapiens neanderthalensis, both of which have gone extinct. So biologically speaking, we are still all the same race/subspecies.

And the genetic variation caused by generations of geographic isolation you speak of. Well, the human subspecies homo sapiens sapiens, havent been around long enough for that to make a significant difference.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

That depends on how you define the word "race".

Applied to humans, is a lot different than the other animals on this planet like say, dogs who has many races.

You can see it as "ethnicity". Many people do that, and that makes it true. But the word started out as "people who share the same language".

Today you can define it both as "people who shares a common culture" as well as "ethnicity".

You can also see it as Homo Sapiens as opposed to "Homo Erectus" or any other (now dead) human species.

Or you can, as many scientist say, claim that humans are in reality just another species of the Pan tree. That would mean that Pan Troglodyte (chimpanzees) is another human race, as are other monkeys, or rather that humans are another branch of monkeys





It`s far easier to start a war than to end one.

5/10

Unfortunately, racists are illogical and uninformed. Logic is not a factor for them.

Also, changing the name of something doesn't alter it: a rose covered in dung is still a rose covered in dung.

They're all dead Dave

You're right, changing the name won't change the fact that there will still be prejudice and discrimination based on color and ethnicity. But by removing the race rhetoric from vocabulary and discussion, I believe that we may be able to make people more inherently inclusive. BUT as it is, people are using words that constantly perpetuate exclusive thought, that further perpetuates in-group out-group biases that keep people closed minded and hateful, all from something that isn't actually even real. It's absurdity at its finest, goddammit!

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

Logic cannot remove prejudice. Changing the terminology won't change the prejudice, it just adds a scary Orwellian element.


They're all dead Dave

You are dead wrong if you don't think logic can remove prejudice. Logic and critical thinking, which is type two processing, is the only way to battle prejudice, which is due to type one processing.

Problem is actually getting people to use critical (type two) thinking instead of heuristics and biases (type one)

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

No, it is you who is wrong: you can make all the logical arguments you like but when you are finished the prejudice will still remain. This is because prejudice is learned behaviour, absorbed along with mother's milk.


They're all dead Dave

True, those prejudices may still remain, as they are very heavily ingrained. But, wit critical thinking, you may be able to choose to act on them or not. Without critical thinking, you will undoubtedly act on them. And with the awareness of one's prejudice, and constant awareness of when they are used, you can stop relying on them, thus slowly beginning to remove them. You just need to use critical thinking and logic as a safeguard.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

But I can't force people to be logical, so that is a problem in itself. You have to decide yourself to either think critical or not.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

*beep* I wish those montagnards or Hmongs or wtf they are, would just do you..

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I am not saying that there isn't prejudice and discrimination based on skin pigment and ethnicity.

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You are correct in one sense.

The concept of race is an invalid one.

However the term racism doesn't describe discrimination based upon race. It describes discrimination based upon a particular cultures perception of race.
For example Americans seem to have 4 races, white, black, Asian and Hispanic because they describe the major visible features of their population. Other cultures would have a different definition for races and racism.

I am reminded of a KFC ad in Australia which showed an Australian caught in a crowd of Jamaicans at a cricket match and shared his box of chicken to subdue the boisterous crowd.
Americans saw clear racism of a white man giving fried chicken to black people.
Australians (and likely Jmaicans) saw somebody caught at an international sporting match in the wrong part of the stadium with the opposition crowd, sharing takeaway. It gave totally different cultural signals to Americans than to the target audience.


Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable

there's not much difference in saying that it's ones cultures perception of race, since it is still a perception based on a false premise. But I do see your point, and somewhat agree with it. There is nothing inherently prejudice the KFC commercial, but due to the American cultures preception of race and race relations, they tend to see it as prejudice. That is still due to the perpetuation of a false perception.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

So racism doesn't exist. The things one learns browsing IMDB's message boards. What's next? Gender doesn't exist? Oh I think that has already been covered before.

English is not my 1st language, sorry.

Read the disclaimer, liberalsnowflake.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

Ok, now I get it.

English is not my 1st language, sorry.

Great, now spread the word!

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

Makes sense.

The_Strangeler, jealous rat who lost the Super Bowl.

I agree. So does Morgan Freeman. I've been saying this for decades. Every time I have to even point out the color of a person's skin it makes me feel bad because I know I'm perpetuating something that shouldn't even exist in the first place.

Same thing when I answer questions like where my family originated. What does that even matter? Should I feel some false sense of pride because my ancestors just so happened to reside on a certain part of the earth several centuries ago?




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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

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RACISM DOESN'T EXIST BECAUSE RACE DOESN'T EXIST

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That's an idealistic sentiment. Race obviously does exist. Racism does too though it shouldn't.

You are right, race does exist. The human race. So does racism. I'm a racist. I hate the human race.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

So politically correct and so stupid.
Must be a nice fantasy world you live in.

There's nothing wrong with trying to bring people together, but don't be silly and naive about it.

And it's incite. Not insight.











Your mom may be a piece of ass, but you're a piece of sh!t!

I'm not the one living in a fantasy world. People who think there are different races within humanity are the ones living a fantasy.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

Uh huh. You and the other 4 people who believe that nonsense will have a ton of luck, I'm sure.











Your mom may be a piece of ass, but you're a piece of sh!t!

Not when people like you choose to willfully believe in false concepts. The real nonsense is the belief that humans have different races. But I don't blame you, you were told these lies since you were born, I don't expect you to change over night. But go on and keep believing what science has already disproven, for you are right, everybody else does. people used to believe the world was flat and that the bumps on one's head dictates intelligence and behavior, both of which has been disproven. It's the same with the idea of race. It has been disproven, except it's still held on to. Old beliefs die hard, don't they.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

False concepts? What science has disproven? Answer something for me

Do u believe in global warmiOops I mean climate change?

Yes or no?












Your mom may be a piece of ass, but you're a piece of sh!t!

Well, I'd admit that proven or disproven are the wrong words to use, particularly in science. Instead I would say that there is strong supporting evidence toward showing that race doesn't exist in the way most people perceive it

As for global warming, there may be supporting evidence towards it. Though I haven't taken the time to look at it, so I couldn't tell you if I think it's real or not.

But yes, your idea of race is a sociological construct that has no basis in science. A false concept.

Instead of saying that what I'm saying is just bologna, can you tell me why your concept of race isn't?

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

Cuz when I look in the mirror I don't see a black dude.

Race is the classification of humans into groups based on physical traits, ancestry, genetics or social relations, or the relations between them.

You would be right IF everybody on the planet looked exactly the same.
"Human" isn't a race.









Your mom may be a piece of ass, but you're a piece of sh!t!

Do you plan on seeing Get Out?


Fascists decide that you are a criminal, then they find the crime

Nah, probably not. sounds like a dumb movie by the imdb description. Haven't seen the trailer though.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

Theoretically, you're right. But you are not considering the "nuture" factor. If children are raised with race hate, they will believe that is the right way. And, also, if someone, anyone, can find a way to feel superior to someone else, they will take it. Considerafter the Civil Warwho was considered "superior"a black man or a "white trash"

You are right about the nurture factor, and I have brought it up. It's also why people will hold so strongly to this false belief, because everything around them gas perpetuated it since they were born.

What you say about superiority is also true. In general People always will find a way to feel superior to others. But you can educate them on why such a way of thought is flawed. You can teach critical thinking and make people realize the fallacy of feeling superior to someone, particularly when it is because of a reason that is beyond someone's control, such as, pigment, ethnicity, and place of birth.

Maybe you got a kid maybe you got a pretty wife only thing that I got been botherin me my whole life

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In general People always will find a way to feel superior to others.

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The way in which you are trying to feel superior to others is through a belief that you are more enlightened on the question of race.

Here is a question for you. If race (apart from the human race) is imaginary, why do people from around the world perceive racial differences? They may vary in terms of where they draw boundaries for classification, but they do notice the differences.

Technically, yes.

But there are evolved sub-groups within the species which we refer to as "race" = mongoloid, caucasoid, negroid - with distinct characteristics and phenotypes.

For example, some breeds of dog are smarter than other breeds.
Still a dog.