The Man in the High Castle : I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

as Nazis.

Because that is a derogatory word for the Nationalist Socialist party.

Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

Unless you are a nazi, you shouldn't be offended at what Nazi filth are called

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Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

Its not a question of offense but a question of using accurate language. Nazi is only used as extensively as it is in the show because its a convenient short hand for facebook generation.

But it is rather like believing - as another poster wrote - that communists would refer to themselves as "commies".

Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

Oh so in those old movies from the 1940s , such as The Stranger (1946), When they used the term 'NAZI' I guess that was for the facebook generation too.

IMDB~2005

Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

Perhaps in winning the war, they turned it around into a term of pride. The term "redneck" started out as an insult - yet many people use the term with pride.

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Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

No, the origin of the term, "Redneck" came from a rural working-class white person whose back of the neck became sunburned due to outdoor work. Mostly farmers from the South. You know those folks who grow our fruits and vegetables? It's a pity the Southern people are so dispised. Hence, the disparaging use of "Redneck".



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Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis


Oh so in those old movies from the 1940s , such as The Stranger (1946), When they used the term 'NAZI' I guess that was for the facebook generation too.



Nope. But the term was still being used as a shorthand to help the audience clue in on the baddies. It was also a pejorative term that the audience of the time could also identify with.

It was not a term that Nazis would have used to refer to themselves (in family as it were) as the OP pointed out.

In this adaptation, the use of nazi plays the same role as it did above, now for people of a much younger generation (facebook generation, Gen Z, whatever). The use of the easy shorthand is useful and necessary given the present generation's shocking degree of ignorance of history that extends past the last iphone release.



Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

Yet another nazi getting offended at the term pathetic

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Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

Hardly

I'm not offended by the term 'nazi'.

I just agree with OP that its not a term that nazis would use to self identify.

Anymore than a 'communist' would describe him or herself as a 'commie' - as the OP pointed out.

It takes away from the world building of the series by having the nazis officially refer to themselves as "nazis" as in the "nazi new service" or the "nazi reich". It makes for a slightly cartoonish or 40s US propaganda presentation and takes away from the attempt to give the world in the series a solid, realistic feel.

The enemies of Nationalist-Socialists calling them "nazis" is perfectly acceptable and credible.



Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis


It takes away from the world building of the series by having the nazis officially refer to themselves as "nazis" as in the "nazi new service" or the "nazi reich". It makes for a slightly cartoonish or 40s US propaganda presentation and takes away from the attempt to give the world in the series a solid, realistic feel.


Oh boo hoo! cry a river please if that took away from the world building. You and the 'commie' guy seem to be the only ones bitching about this. The show is still more realistic compared to PKD's book which had more fantasy elements like space colonization by the Germans.


This will be the only comment or reply you'll get. Like I give a sh!t about YOUR interwebz opinion.

Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

You have to say it like Winston Churchill: Nah-zee

Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

You have to say it like Winston Churchill: Nah-zee

It was Churchill who first coined the term 'Nazi' (or at least put it into the public domain). We don't even know if Churchill was the British PM at any stage in this timeline, and, even if he was, I doubt if any term invented by a defeated leader would then pass into common usage, let alone be adopted by the victors.

Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

To the OP: Hmm? Why do you believe Nazi is a derogatory word? The whole Nationalist Socialist party deserved to be called much worse. Would "pond scum" of the earth which needed to be eradicated suffice? After all the NAZI ideology came from the "pits of hell" led by Satan incarnate! It really is mind boggling to believe the term NAZI is offensive. But then, as another poster stated, the history knowledge of the Millennials is sorely lacking.

Could the OP believe the word NAZI is derogatory due to it being thrown so freely at those who have political differences? It's much easier to yell "NAZI and RACIST" (BTW, in most cases BIGOT should be used) than to have a civil discourse. These two words, which denote unadulterated hatred, have been so watered down by those who freely use them in their vernacular. In so doing, the true meaning is lostand won't be recognized when confronted with the ideologies of the two groups. "Those who don't learn history are destined to repeat it."




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Re: I hate it whenever the Japanese and "Nazi" officers refer to Nazis

Yes, you are right. I just finished first season and it did not fit. But now I started second season and the first episode starts with the kids in school saying the pledge and that's where it really felt out of place.

We can just guess what is the reason to write it like that. Unfortunately after reading rest of this thread I am inclined to believe it actually might be intentional because of people like these. Making stuff more easily digestible for the price of accuracy is not that uncommon in US productions.

Only thing we can do is to suspend our disbelief and assume that the nazis in the show took the name in pride as someone mentioned here earlier.
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