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Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason

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Dem rep: 'Conspiring' with Russia the 'very definition of treason'

Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass.) on Tuesday said that if members of the Trump administration or campaign have been "conspiring" with Russia, "that's the very definition of treason."

National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigned on Monday after reports surfaced that he had spoken with a top Russian diplomat about the U.S. sanctions against Russia.

I mean, lets not lose perspective on exactly who were talking about here, he said on CNN. "Russia is the No. 1 enemy of the United States of America.

If members of the administration are essentially conspiring with Russia either through the [2016 presidential] campaign earlier or now in the administration itself I mean, look, Wolf, thats the very definition of treason, Moulton told host Wolf Blitzer.

This is a very, very serious affair. The definition of treason is putting our enemys interests ahead of our own. Thats what the definition is, he continued.

Moulton said Flynn's reported talk sanctions with Russias ambassador before Trump entered office is the latest example of the administrations attempts at appeasing the Kremlin.

It seems like theres a lot of evidence that there are members of this administration that are more concerned with Russias goals than our own, said Moulton, a member of the House Armed Services Committee.

They continually prioritize the desires of the Kremlin, like, for example, rescinding these sanctions that have been so important."

Flynn resigned late Monday amid reports he misled senior White House officials, including Vice President Mike Pence, about his phone conversations with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December.

The former Army lieutenant general blamed the fast pace of events for why he inadvertently gave Pence and others incomplete information about the talks.

Flynn, in an interview with the Daily Caller, said he spoke with the ambassador about the 35 Russian officials who were expelled from the U.S. as part of President Obama's sanctions against Russia, but "no lines were crossed."

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday that Trump asked for Flynns resignation once the presidents faith in his adviser eroded."

This is not a legal issue but rather a trust issue, he said, adding controversy over Flynns talks with Kislyak had created an unsustainable situation."

Re: Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason

Gosh, one would think that it should be legal for SOMEONE to discuss sanctions against Russia withRussia.

To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it. G.K. Chesterton

Re: Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason


trea·son
trzn/Submit
noun
the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
"they were convicted of treason"
synonyms: treachery, disloyalty, betrayal, faithlessness; More
the action of betraying someone or something.
plural noun: treasons
"doubt is the ultimate treason against faith"
synonyms: treachery, disloyalty, betrayal, faithlessness; More
historical
the crime of murdering someone to whom the murderer owed allegiance, such as a master or husband.
noun: petty treason; plural noun: petty treasons


Wrong - try again, troll.

Re: Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason

Hey idiot. Conspiring with the Russians to spike the USA's democratic elections is treason.

Look that up you fool.



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Conspiring with the Russians


Provide a cite where that was proven, numpty.

Re: Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason

And your evidence is?


"the absence of evidence is the actual evidence." Tcob44

Re: Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason


Hey idiot. Conspiring with the Russians to spike the USA's democratic elections is treason.

Look that up you fool.



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Re: Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason

And yet no evidence of conspiracy has been provided, even by your own article

Why is that? Maybe because we still don't know what conversation was actually had, or what was discussed in it. But *beep* that FACT right I mean it doesn't fit you *beep* narrative so talk about rationalizing



"the absence of evidence is the actual evidence." Tcob44

Re: Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason

You people are really, really stupid. The transcripts of Flynn's discussions will be available soon.

It's already been established that Russia was hacking the DNC.




Yes, 17 intelligence agencies really did say Russia was behind hacking


Donald Trumps claim that the United States has "no idea" who is behind recent email hacks is just not true.

The fact-checking website Politifact says Hillary Clinton is correct when she says 17 federal intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia is behind the hacking.

We have 17, 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyber attacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin. And they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing, Clinton said during Wednesday's presidential debate in Las Vegas.

Trump pushed back, saying that Clinton and the United States had no idea whether it is Russia, China or anybody else.

But Clinton is correct. On Oct. 7, the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint statement on behalf of the U.S. Intelligence Community. The USIC is made up of 16 agencies, in addition to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

"The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscowthe Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities."

While the agencies all issued the statement together, Trump spokesman Steven Cheung told Politifact he took Clinton to be implying each agency came to the conclusion independently, a situation Cheung finds "unlikely."

This summer, Wikileaks released a trove of emails from the Democratic National Committee. And over the past two weeks, Wikileaks has been releasing Clinton campaign chairman John Podestas emails. The Clinton campaign has neither confirmed or denied the authenticity of the emails, though they have pushed back on certain emails and warned that stolen information could be altered.

Re: Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason

"You people are really, really stupid."

Yeah, when you personally attack, you do so because you know you're losing


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/01/05/5-takeaways-senate-hearing-russian-hacks/96209760/

1. More than one motive

Top intelligence officials reiterated their belief that the Russians hacked Hillary Clinton's campaign and other political party groups in an attempt to influence the presidential election and help President-elect Donald Trump win. However, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said there was actually "more than one motive." He said multiple motives will be detailed in a comprehensive report to be made public next week.

2. Trump still won

Clapper said the Russian cyber attacks "did not change any vote tallies or anything of that sort." However, he added that there is no way to gauge the impact of the hacking and the subsequent leak of information from Clinton's campaign on how Americans voted. He said the report to be released next week will not question the outcome or legitimacy of the election results.

Now that so called evidence is where? I am still waiting for it


"The transcripts of Flynn's discussions will be available soon."

Oh and if the transcripts prove you wrong, are you going to admit, for once in your pathetic life, you were wrong?




"the absence of evidence is the actual evidence." Tcob44

Re: Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason

Depends, conspiring to do what?

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Re: Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason

No it isn't. It has nothing to do with that. Treason means NOT putting America First, which apparently means being racist.

Re: Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason

The Donald praises a country that held country wide nuclear drills for us, he asks for this same foreign country to hack his opponent, he actively works to stop the flow of information that will likely not look good for him. This country is going down in right wing extremist flames.

Re: Conspiring with Russia the very definition of treason

Who cares if Russia held nuclear attack drills? We got people in this country equating talking to them, merely hoping for good relations, treason. I can't blame them.

And as far as Trump asking them to hack his political opponents, prove it.

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