Politics : Can someone please explain to me Donnie's rant on a Jewish journalist?

You didn't read it?? Shocker!!

I included the text because people didn't trust my take on it. Or they can watch the short video, which I also included.

But yeah, you're SURE he had his reasons when you don't even know what was said and in what context.

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I find the subject completely uninteresting and boring. It is not relevant.

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Then a little tip for you:

Don't read and reply to threads you find uninteresting and boring.

Easy peasy. Whoddathunk???

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I don't think he was paying much attention to what the reporter was saying, resulting in a complete misunderstanding. Kinda like how much of this thread didn't seem to pay much attention to the OP, hence some of the odd responses.

EXACTLY!!!!! All Donnie heard was "you" and "antisemitism", and he went off on that.

Clearly, the reporter was asking the new POTUS how he plans on handling antisemitism, whilst making sure Donnie knew that neither him, his colleagues, nor anyone he knows think that Donnie is antisemitic.

Donnie went off on this poor guy. For no reason.

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I watched the press conference. What Trump was responding to was the insinuation that Trump being elected started causing the increase in death threats against Jews.

Therefore he answered by saying that he's not anti-Semitic (AKA he's not causing it). Then went on to tout his good relationship with Israel and Netanyahu, etc.



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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

He never insinuated that Donnie is antisemitic. In fact, he went out of his way to say that.

The fact that some of YOU believe the reporter was blaming the uptick in antisemitism on Donnie is on YOU.

You guys are just laughingly unbelievable.

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I never said he insinuated that president Trump is anti-semitic. I'm telling you what Trump was responding to.

In addition to the strategy of the press conference to downplay the media, it's the obvious answer. That is, if you paid attention to the context and attacks by the media for the past several months.

If you'd rather not have an answer, if you'd rather believe Trump was not using any logic whatsoever and just went completely unhinged without any explanation, then just believe that instead and next time don't ask questions like this.




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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

Surely you recognize that the implicit suggestion in asking the question is that Trump' s win is responsible for alleged rise in anti-Semitism (the reporter didn't provide evidence to my knowledge). Given the backdrop of the fake news press trying to paint Trump as an anti-Semite over the past year, WHY ON EARTH would he accept the premise of the question??? Is this really that difficult to figure out?

Btw, that reporter was on Tucker Carlson' s show today and said he was encouraged by Trump' s answer.

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he didn't answer the question , what is he doing to stop the rise of anti semitism , not whether he is anti semetic , his answer was someone who is acting guilty , apparently its a fact that there has been a rise of anti semitism , whether its his fault or not was not the question , its like asking him that there has been a rise on black on black crime and him saying " i love black people , my friends are black people .etc very bizarre

When a special interest group presents an argument about why their special interest needs particular attention, it pays to check the facts.

It's not bizarre at all.

What Trump was responding to was the insinuation that Trump being elected started causing the increase in death threats against Jews.

Therefore he answered by saying that he's not anti-Semitic (AKA he's not causing it). Then went on to tout his good relationship with Israel and Netanyahu, etc.


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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

him being anti Semitic was not at issue , apparently his rhetoric has increased the rise in anti semitism , whether intentional or not the question was what was he going to do about it , maybe it was coincidental he could have said that then answered the question , but he never says that he has a plan to deal w/ the rise of anti semitism , his answer was I'm not an anti semite so who cares what happens to jews as long as I'm personally not advocating against jews

It was the insinuation, which is why we saw that response. He probably doesn't have any plan to stop anti-semantism at the moment and wanted to ensure everyone knew he wasn't responsible for it as the question seemed to insinuate.


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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

So you're saying that Donnie should just make up his own questions to be asked, else it's a loaded question or a "gotcha!".

Here's the transcript:

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Reporter: So, first of all, my name is Jake [ inaudible ] magazine and, I, despite what so many colleagues might be reporting, I haven't seen anybody in my community accuse either yourself or anyone on your staff of being anti-semitic. However, what we are concerned about and what we haven't really heard you address is an uptick in anti-semitism and how in this climate you're going to take care of it. There have been reports out that 48 bomb threats have been made against Jewish centers all across the country in the last couple of weeks. There are people who are committing anti-semitic acts or threatening to

Trump: You know he's said that he's going to ask a very simple, easy question. And it's not. It's not a fair question. Sit down. I understand the rest of your question. So here's the story, folks.
Number one, I'm the least anti-semitic person you've seen in your entire life. Number two, racism, the least racist person. In fact, we can very well relative to other people running as a Republican [ inaudible ]
Quiet, quiet, he lied about getting up asking a straight, simple question, so, you know, welcome to the world of the media.
Let me just tell you something, that I hate the charge. I find it repulsive. I hate even the question because people that know me, and you heard the Prime Minister. You heard Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday. Did you hear him? Bebe, he said, "I've known Donald Trump for a long time. Then he said, forget it." So you should take that instead of having to get up and ask a very insulting question.

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Praytell, what was so awful about that question that Donnie had to cut him off, not let him finish asking the question, told to sit down, and go on a rant as if the reporter stood face to face with him calling Donnie an anti-semite?

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What Trump was responding to was the insinuation that Trump being elected started causing the increase in death threats against Jews.

Therefore he answered by saying that he's not anti-Semitic (AKA he's not causing it). Then went on to tout his good relationship with Israel and Netanyahu, etc.


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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

where is the insinuation ? point in the transcript that it implies he is an anti semite , please show us

I didn't say he implies he's an anti-semite. I said the question implies that Trump being elected is what caused the increase in anti-semitism.



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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

"I didn't say he implies he's an anti-semite. I said the question implies that Trump being elected is what caused the increase in anti-semitism. "


then why say you are not an anti semite if it wasn't asked or implied ? how doers the question imply that trump being elected was responsible , it appears that he cites statistics and they have apparently gone up since the election , if thats false then so be it but where does it imply that he is responsible and why does he say he is not anti semetic ?

It's interesting how this even needs to be explained. I thought it was rather blatant, though I guess I have studied these things for a long time.

The media has been attacking Trump for being just about everything bad you can possibly be as a person (racist, nazi, russian spy etc). He called a press conference which looks to have been designed to correct the record and downplay the media's attacks.

When the question was asked, he had a strategy in play and knew the media's modus operandi. The question could be used to accuse his administration of causing a rise in anti-sematism (as has happened before). That, paired with likely not currently having a plan to combat it, he did the next best thing and killed three birds with one stone. He was able to continue his downplay of the media, was able to avoid committing to a plan that he may not be able to follow up on, while at the same time reiterating the fact that he obviously wasn't causing the problem and therefore any upcoming reporting that he was should be labeled as 'fake news'.





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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

If you guys are going to spin this kind of bull *beep* like this for the next four years no wonder why President's assclown 3 week reign has felt like 6 months.

Assclown is either getting old or didn't hear the question, I don't know. But the reporter asked him a simple question about the rise of anti-antisemitism. Maybe Assclown should've first said he didn't believe his presidency had no cause for the rise IF he really think thats what the reporter was suggesting but based on his actual answer who the hell knows but THEN actually answered his question and said what they might do.

But its things like this why people have so little confidence in him. Stop treating like everyone is the enemy. You're the President now, act like it. Stop sounding like a petty bitch over everything.

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It's quite frankly going to be impossible to understand it if you don't first understand that the media has been unleashing unprecedented, undeserved attacks against him for months.

Media out to destroy Trump? Study finds 91 percent of news coverage is negative
http://www.ibtimes.com/media-out-destroy-trump-study-finds-91-percent-news-coverage-negative-2437262



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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

Awwwwwww. Let me play my tiny violin.


Poor Donnie. So misunderstood and bullied.

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The fact that the media is attacking Trump on an unprecedented scale makes someone like me believe that he's actually good for the common people. If the oligarchy, which has been sending us to war, stripping us of our wealth and rights hates Trump, that's a promising sign.

So is Trump's axing of the TPP. You know, the legislation which would have not only sent more jobs overseas, but essentially let multi-national corporations regulate our government. If it had been passed, it wouldn't have been long before we were saying goodbye to the EPA, safety regulations, food regulations, etc.




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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

OMG man, this is the best you can do? This is how you can defend this petty, lying idiot for the next (possible) four years?

The same assclown in the press conference who bragged about having the highest electoral count since Reagan and a reporter corrected him SEVERAL TIMES and then who said he got that information from somewhere else because I guess Google is just too hard to look up for a *beep* President? Are you going to seriously sit here and say its the reporter who has the problem for simply asking him to be truthful on things we can literally look up? Imagine all the *beep* he can be lying about we CAN'T look up?

Assclown CAN'T STOP LYING!!!!! For God sakes, he lives on alternative facts and then accuse everyone else of fake news. This comes from the guy who less than a week ago threw out a bull *beep* crime rate on twitter and then shocked when the media corrected him.

This assclown is now the President. WHEN will he start acting liking one????

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Trump exaggerates. I'm pretty sure everyone knows it.

The media doesn't even need to do it, but they still make up fake headlines and news stories about him.

For example:

Axelrod: Obama Transition Team Wasnt Criticized Over Appointments Like Trump Is
http://www.mediaite.com/online/axelrod-obama-transition-team-wasnt-criticized-over-appointments-like-trump-is/


So again:

It's quite frankly going to be impossible to understand it if you don't first understand that the media has been unleashing unprecedented, undeserved attacks against him for months.

Media out to destroy Trump? Study finds 91 percent of news coverage is negative
http://www.ibtimes.com/media-out-destroy-trump-study-finds-91-percent-news-coverage-negative-2437262



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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

BECAUSE HE KEEPS LYING!!!

The media is simply calling out this teenager and to say stop lying. And whats so strange is he wants to constantly attack the media over 'fake news' and this moron went out SEVERAL times talking about his inauguration size crowds as if it was a fact when they were lying about it.

So why do you not get on his case when he attacks THEM for things that are not only a complete lie but when the evidence is as clear as day he's the one lying?

And being negative. Assclown WON on negativity. WTF are you talking about? Did you think he won on civility and the hope of bringing America together? What campaign did you watch??? So now he's crying others are too?? Jesus an idiot, liar and a hypocrite.

The assclown is a thin skinned petty liar who has NO idea what he's doing. None. He can learn on the job but if the past 3 weeks are any indication he's not learning fast enough. And it doesn't help when his own credibility is questioned because the guy can't stop spewing B.S.

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No. Not because he keeps lying. Because the media keeps lying. You didn't even read the links provided to you, did you. Don't imagine you think you know what they say, actually read them.

Here they are again:


Media out to destroy Trump? Study finds 91 percent of news coverage is negative
"Even when they were critical of Hillary Clinton for concealing her pneumonia, for example, or mischaracterizing the FBI investigation of her e-mail server network reporters always maintained a respectful tone in their coverage," read the study. "This was not the case with Trump, who was slammed as embodying 'the politics of fear,' or a 'dangerous' and 'vulgar' 'misogynistic bully' who had insulted vast swaths of the American electorate."
http://www.ibtimes.com/media-out-destroy-trump-study-finds-91-percent-news-coverage-negative-2437262


Axelrod: Obama Transition Team Wasnt Criticized Over Appointments Like Trump Is
http://www.mediaite.com/online/axelrod-obama-transition-team-wasnt-criticized-over-appointments-like-trump-is/





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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

Dude it boggles the mind. Your ass is going to sit here and ignore when this idiot makes up lies. Oh but you call them 'exaggerations'. You mean that exaggeration when he claimed he only lost the popular vote because 3-5 million people illegally voted? But oh the mean media is evil for pointing out this bull *beep* and calling his dumbass on it. Yeah, blame them. Even FOX NEWS called him out on his BS today. Jesus.

The assclown is a conspiracy theorist who makes this *beep* up at any which way. The assclown is a lying and petty A-hole who has NO idea what he's doing and sending out people to talk about everything from *beep* Nordstroms to insulting judges because he didn't like how they ruled against his ridiculous travel ban.

Its like you work for this assclown. That can only be it because ANY other President would be considered a joke with no credibility. He's been in office 26 days and he's made a total mockery out of it. The media should be going harder not softer, especially over this Russia crap.

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Amen.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ominous-story-of-syria-climate-refugees/

You guys wouldn't be so confused if you chose to rely on the facts rather than confirmatory biases, rather than ignoring the facts in favor of moving the goalposts.

You didn't even acknowledge the study, but that doesn't matter. Studies become irrelevant when they don't fall in line with our confirmation biases, right?

Let's look at the facts instead. The facts are that I'm a Bernie supporter who has acknowledged that both Hillary and Trump are liars for over a year now. Trump is more of an exaggerator, Hillary is more of a strategic liar.

The facts are also that the globalist corporate oligarchy's media has been attacking Trump with updated and refined Nazi propaganda. Nazi propaganda derived from its creator, Edward Bernays. The same type of Nazi propaganda which fooled 50 million Germans into believing that Jews were bad, communists were bad, blacks were bad, gays were bad, Russians were bad, etc is now being used to fool people into believing that President Trump and his supporters are bad.

That's why you see studies prove that the media is far more harsh on Trump than they are for Hillary for doing similar things:

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Media Out To Destroy Trump? Study Finds 91 Percent Of News Coverage Is Negative

"Even when they were critical of Hillary Clinton for concealing her pneumonia, for example, or mischaracterizing the FBI investigation of her e-mail server network reporters always maintained a respectful tone in their coverage," read the study. "This was not the case with Trump, who was slammed as embodying 'the politics of fear,' or a 'dangerous' and 'vulgar' 'misogynistic bully' who had insulted vast swaths of the American electorate."

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http://www.ibtimes.com/media-out-destroy-trump-study-finds-91-percent-news-coverage-negative-2437262


That's why you see President Trump being bashed for not making any major appointments after 2 weeks, when Obama was not for doing the same exact thing.

Obama Admin's Axelrod, Vice President Biden scold critics of Trump's transition progress
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/axelrod-scolds-critics-of-trumps-transition-progress/article/2607686



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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

What a feeble mind you have.

Cause the reporter OBVIOUSLY had a hidden meaning as opposed to his decisive directness.

Guilty minds find such implications where there aren't any.

The reporter wouldn't have started out by saying he in no way believes Donnie is antisemitic, nor does anyone he know, if his intent was to say that Donnie is antisemitic. So Donnie's answer is to say how anti- antisemitic he is. The seal deserves his fish.

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I know you've said you're relatively politically inexperienced and it's understandable why you weren't able to grasp exactly what was going on here. It requires some context.

I explained it in more detail here:

http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000082/thread/266086894?p=2&d=266097468#266097468

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It's interesting how this even needs to be explained. I thought it was rather blatant, though I guess I have studied these things for a long time.

The media has been attacking Trump for being just about everything bad you can possibly be as a person (racist, nazi, russian spy etc). He called a press conference which looks to have been designed to correct the record and downplay the media's attacks.

When the question was asked, he had a strategy in play and knew the media's modus operandi. The question could be used to accuse his administration of causing a rise in anti-sematism (as has happened before). That, paired with likely not currently having a plan to combat it, he did the next best thing and killed three birds with one stone. He was able to continue his downplay of the media, was able to avoid committing to a plan that he may not be able to follow up on, while at the same time reiterating the fact that he obviously wasn't causing the problem in the first place and therefore any upcoming reporting that he was should be labeled as 'fake news'.

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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

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Yuh-huh. Sure.

Or he COULD have answered it this way:

"Thank you for pointing out I'm not.antisemitic, and if people are committing antisemitic violence and threats on my behalf, they're gravely mistaken to do that. I emphatically denounce that. But I hear your concern, and would like to set up a meeting with other Jewish journalists/Jewish community leaders to try and figure out what we can all do to end this "


But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Donnie does NOT say that, or anything nearing that. Proving once again, he's incapable of being POTUS.

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So because a president doesn't answer a question exactly how you want it answered it proves that president is incapable of being president.

Your proposed answer may feel good to you, but it isn't exactly to the Trump admin's advantage. It doesn't kill 3 birds with one stone. It doesn't downplay the media and it doesn't sidestep a new promise he may not be able to keep.



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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

Short answer, yes.THAT'S how an ADULT handles that situation. Donnie is incapable of acting like an adult. We need to add in one more requirement for POTUS, "has the maturity level of at the very least a 35-year old".


How does meeting with them and working on a way to resolve the issue NOT work to Donnie's.advantage?

Yeah, he killed 3 birds with one stone:

His ability to act like a rational adult is dead
His ability to listen to what a person is actually saying is dead
His ability to be an effective POTUS is dead

3 birds, 1 stone. Impressive!

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I know it's not easy for you to see it fox. That's just going to happen with your level of political experience. Trump is using a political playbook here. An unconventional one, but an effective one none-the-less.

When you're president, you call press conferences for a reason. You call them because you have a stratagem at play. All Presidents do it. All presidents mislead while doing so. The strategy here was to downplay much of the news media as fake news, correct the record where necessary, while attempting to steer the media's treatment in a more Trump admin-friendly direction.

It's an unconventional strategy that you obviously won't be used to, as Democrats don't use it, but it's an effective one for Republicans and many Independents. It's a part of the same strategy that got him elected where it counted. It's a part of the same strategy which elevates President Trump as being more trustworthy in the eyes of the public than the media is.

Poll: Trump More Widely Trusted Than News Media
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/poll-trump-more-widely-trusted-than-news-media.html

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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

deep the problem w/ your answer is that since he considers the media is hostile , any questioned asked of him is considered hostile . ," what about black on black crime " i love black people and don't call me a racist

There you go, tango, you hit the nail on the head. He views .the press from a hostile perspective, so each and every question, posed towards him is nefarious.

No good faith questions, no good faith intentions. They're ALL out to get him.

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If you guys had actually watched the entire press conference, you'd have known that was not the case. The president specifically pointed out fair questions, which were regarding policy decisions that couldn't possibly be twisted and used as attacks by the media.

Not only that, the Trump administration is correct in treating the greater news media as hostile, just as the Obama administration was correct in treating Fox News as hostile. That's because they are. And studies have proved it.

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Media Out To Destroy Trump? Study Finds 91 Percent Of News Coverage Is Negative

"Even when they were critical of Hillary Clinton for concealing her pneumonia, for example, or mischaracterizing the FBI investigation of her e-mail server network reporters always maintained a respectful tone in their coverage," read the study. "This was not the case with Trump, who was slammed as embodying 'the politics of fear,' or a 'dangerous' and 'vulgar' 'misogynistic bully' who had insulted vast swaths of the American electorate."

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http://www.ibtimes.com/media-out-destroy-trump-study-finds-91-percent-news-coverage-negative-2437262

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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

Trump has mentioned in the past that he is a fan of the "Power of Positive Thinking," so he has a natural tendency to put an optimistic spin on things (unless he is criticizing his opponents). His steaks are the best, his hotels are world class, he sees prospects for comprehensive peace in the Middle East now that he's around, he has the best golf courses in the world, and under his presidency there's going to be a "lot of love."

He hasn't pandered to identity politics, so he tends to generalize a lot when he is asked specific questions about particular identity groups.

I suspect he is aware that a lot of Jewish activism (I'm thinking in particular of groups like the Anti-Defamation League) is counter-productive, and he doesn't want to encourage those mistakes.

Nothing to defend. Nobody loves women more than he does, remember?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ominous-story-of-syria-climate-refugees/

There's no explaining Donnie. He's mental.


The news is real. The President is fake.

It's rather ironic. Your confusion is due to the fake news that you think is real.



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"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

- George Bernard Shaw

"I'm totally not racist" - Trump

one second later:

Jewish person asks a question
"sit down, quiet, quiettttt" - actual trump quote


A black person asks a question
"I bet you know every black person on earth..so..how about you set up the meetings with all your baby daddies aka the black caucus"- me mocking his reaction


An Arab stands up
"oh here we gooooo" - actual trump quote.



"where are these leaks coming from, for example everyone knows when I make phone calls???"- Trump
"your twitter"- the world