Black-ish : So why the eff would you love america if it's treated you awfully?
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Remember the episode last season where he went on a big speech saying a black man can never trust a cop and the whole episode was about how the system and all cops are against white people?
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What? The episode wasn't about how the system and the cops was against white people. But yes, if you're referring to how the system and the cops are against black people, then I do agree. The system is against black/poor people. That doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand(unless you don't wanna see it).
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This episode reminded me of that one by making it out like the country is against him
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Are you serious? That is a true patriot. No one should love their country solely based on what they have received from it. People who stand by it, fight for it and die for it when they have been treated like shi*t by the people in it. Hoping above all hope someday their children lives will be better after that long suffering. Conservatives seem to only love this country as much as it agrees with them, only love what they can take from it. Which is perhaps the most unamerican and unpatriotic thing of all.
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that sounds like a dysfunctional relationship-
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Maybe?.but a mixed raced person with family that literally had land took away form them because of their skin color, I love this country. Unconditional, just like a loving a bratty misbehaving child. Staying in house that is falling part because its your house and you love it. You don't have unconditional love for your country?
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I get what you say, but you know, love IS a 2 way street.
It has to be. Even with first born babies it is:
- They "love" their mommy because they shared a womb for 9 months, so the baby already knows and has felt the love of the mommy. The daddy however, babies usually take far longer to develop an attachment to them because they didn't share such personal physical bond during the pregnancy (the daddy is usually perceived like almost a stranger).
- Many mommies don't automatically love their babies, they grow into it and develop the attachment over time.
And don't get me started on how many parents never love their own kids to begin with or how many abandoned kids hate their biological parents more than anything in this world.
So for anyone to be able to say "I love X or Y" they are either lying, confusing love with something else, or felt X or Y love them back at some point (or at least give them something they like, like how addicts "love" their drugs).
So your question of "You don't have unconditional love for your country?" is wrong.
I mean, would you ask that to a German Jew about to be marched into a gas chamber (since the Nazis were widely popular the country was indeed in bed with them)? Or to a gay man in Saudi Arabia about to be executed for apostasy (which would be approved by over 90% of the population)?
No? I didn't think so.
Your country has to love you (at some point) if it expects you to love it back.
That's why all those blacks protesting the Vietnam War and especially Ali when he said "No Vietcong ever called me the N word" had a rock solid point refusing to be shamed by the "don't you love your country?" BS argument.
Andre simply is able to love America because it HAS loved him back, and a lot:
- He lives in a McMansion
- He has a cushy 6 figure white collar job
- He has an MD wife
- He has 4 great kids
- He's got his parents enjoying a union pension-funded retirement
Oh yeah, he's had it pretty good.
No wonder he can love America despite the occasional racist incident here and there (which clearly hasn't been severe enough to set him back or block his way to upper class livelihood).
It has to be. Even with first born babies it is:
- They "love" their mommy because they shared a womb for 9 months, so the baby already knows and has felt the love of the mommy. The daddy however, babies usually take far longer to develop an attachment to them because they didn't share such personal physical bond during the pregnancy (the daddy is usually perceived like almost a stranger).
- Many mommies don't automatically love their babies, they grow into it and develop the attachment over time.
And don't get me started on how many parents never love their own kids to begin with or how many abandoned kids hate their biological parents more than anything in this world.
So for anyone to be able to say "I love X or Y" they are either lying, confusing love with something else, or felt X or Y love them back at some point (or at least give them something they like, like how addicts "love" their drugs).
So your question of "You don't have unconditional love for your country?" is wrong.
I mean, would you ask that to a German Jew about to be marched into a gas chamber (since the Nazis were widely popular the country was indeed in bed with them)? Or to a gay man in Saudi Arabia about to be executed for apostasy (which would be approved by over 90% of the population)?
No? I didn't think so.
Your country has to love you (at some point) if it expects you to love it back.
That's why all those blacks protesting the Vietnam War and especially Ali when he said "No Vietcong ever called me the N word" had a rock solid point refusing to be shamed by the "don't you love your country?" BS argument.
Andre simply is able to love America because it HAS loved him back, and a lot:
- He lives in a McMansion
- He has a cushy 6 figure white collar job
- He has an MD wife
- He has 4 great kids
- He's got his parents enjoying a union pension-funded retirement
Oh yeah, he's had it pretty good.
No wonder he can love America despite the occasional racist incident here and there (which clearly hasn't been severe enough to set him back or block his way to upper class livelihood).
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I'm betting you don't actually know many conservatives IRL. They don't all think the same way.
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Maybe because he knows that doors are open to him here that would never be elsewhere?
So why the eff would you love america if it's treated you awfully?