Marianne Faithfull : '………A Slut and a Bad Mother.'

'………A Slut and a Bad Mother.'

So true. This woman makes me sick.

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She was promiscuous, cheating on her partner, she also neglected her child while she was shooting up and taking all sorts of drugs.

How can you not judge a person that only thinks of themselves and couldn't give a *beep* about their own child?

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I'm sure you are a much better person than Marianne. Judge away, almighty!

And I'm sure you'll leave a brilliant artistic legacy in this world, just like Marianne has.

Let it lead me trembling, trembling...I own every bell that tolls me.

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Damn right I'm going to judge the bitch. It's pure selfishness on her part that she was too busy getting banged by strangers and snorting coke and injecting herion to give a crap about her child. In your ignorant moralising Muse, did you ever bother to think of the child? That's the true victim in all of this.

Ha, lasting legacy, nobody under twenty five gives a *beep* about Marianne, I only found out about her through watching a documentary on her and her so 5b4 rdid squallid life.

She is now a washed up hack, she sounds *beep* (due to drugs), she looks *beep* (due to drugs) and is an arrogant, uncaring bitch.

I'm no artist, just an appalled citizen of the world that is sickened she could treat her child and indeed herself in such a disgusting manner.

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I didn't want to get involved any more than a sarcastic jab, but your post is just ridiculous and I can't help myself. My ignorant moralising?! The only person in this thread who needs to get off of their own moral high horse is you.

>>I'm no artist, just an appalled citizen of the world that is sickened she could treat her child and indeed herself in such a disgusting manner.<<

If it really affected you THAT much as a "citizen of the world," then I hope you are about doing something about the larger issue here and not just judging someone who did this THIRTY YEARS AGO. If you think this woman (who is very a much a survivor in her own right) is so terrible now for what she's done in the past, then I would hope you are getting out and do something to help stop it from happening to other kids today, and not just posting snotty messages on an internet movie board. What have you done to help? Are you one of those people who are so quick to pass judgment on others who screw-up in the world, yet are so slow to act to help change anything? I have worked at an advocate center for homeless and at risk youth for many years. Yet I supposedly don't care about a child's rights, according to you.

>>Ha, lasting legacy, nobody under twenty five gives a *beep* about Marianne, I only found out about her through watching a documentary on her and her sordid squallid life. She is now a washed up hack<<

Oh please, now you're just flashing your lack of education about the subject at hand. You need to look up the definition of the word "hack." Also, Marianne is largely considered a rock'n'roll icon to many musicians and rock fans internationally. Maybe not to you, because you think she's a slut and a bad mother, but she is to most people who are educated about rock music. Look in any academic book about the subject--Broken English is considered a rock staple, and Strange Weather is close behind. I cannot think of any other rock artist who has consistently put out good-to-great albums over a period of time spanning four decades. And look at the folks who queue up to work with her: On Kissin' Time (2002), Beck and Billy Corgan worked with her. On Before the Poison (2005), PJ Harvey and Nick Cave worked with her. On Easy Come, Easy Go (2008), she has guest spots from Cat Power, Rufus Wainwright, Kate & Anna McGarrigle, Jarvis Cocker.

And added to that, she is an accomplished actress, who was nominated as "Best Actress" at the European Film Awards in 2007.

If anything, she's in a career prime right now, being clean, having survived breast cancer, and having been on a roll with her work in music and film this decade.

I wonder if you are so hard on Marianne's male counterparts from the late 60s/early 70s, who were certainly just as "slutty" and "bad" parents as she.

You sound like you don't know much about the history of rock or this time period, my guess would be because you're too young and haven't been exposed to much. All I have to say is, thank god everyone under 25 isn't as uneducated and judgmental as you are.



Let it lead me trembling, trembling...I own every bell that tolls me.

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"user-3391"

What's the point of you being here... or you being alive at all? Please leave this board and go jerk off or whatever else you do in your free time and let us Faithfull fans talk. Thank you.

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"She was promiscuous"

So were lots of people in those times and so would most men be given the opportunity at some point in their life. Do you have the same criticisms of all the promiscuous rock stars of those times (and today)?

"cheating on her partner"

Cheating on Mick Jagger who did the same to her and other women

"she also neglected her child"

There is no evidence that she ever neglected her child and she kept the child sheltered from the drugs and sex. She was a bad role model and fail somewhat as a mother by risking losing custody but it was a long time ago and she regrets that.

"couldn't give a *beep* about their own child"

She fought very hard for custody of her child.

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Thrownmuse

A survivor? Why must you paint her as the victim, what she did to her child was criminal. The only victim in her sorry pathetic life is her child, certainly not her.

Many musicians, a handful of musicans is not that many, so why don't you take that chip on your shoulder. Rock fans, well by that definition that includes me and just before I posted this topic I listened to her music, nothing special. Her later stuff sounds even worse, likely due to all the drugs and whoring herself out to anybody that had no dignity. I would hardly even class her has rock, most of her *beep* had folk mixed in.

Lady, don't even get me started on her 'acting' abilities. You'll get even more vitriol.

Career prime, hahahahahahahahah. Hasbeen now, could've been then.

I knew you'd throw the whiny feminist angle in somewhere, oh poor her, don't judge her just because she has a vagina. In any case it makes her worse than her male counterparts as she had taken the nurturing and developing role in her child's life and what does she do, expose it to see what a slut of a mother she is who is most likely strung out on drugs.

Heaven

I never knew musical groupies lurked on message boards, you're even worse than the fanboys over at batttlestar galactica. This message board is free to everyone and not everyone is enamoured of Marianne. In fact to some people she makes them sick.

Lorn

I am not discussing other musicians, I am discussing Marianne. And I would have the same dim view of them if they had disgraced themselves like Marianne and abused her child the way she did.

I don't give a monkeys about Jagger.

Actually yes there is, in the documentary she made mention that her child was in the same house whilst she did all these things. That is abuse and neglect of the child.

No she was just bitter and did not want her ex to have custody, she just wanted to win. She didn't care about her child, if she did she never would have engaged in the debauchery so frequently.

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You brought up the infidelity and Jagger is the only man she is known to have been unfaithful to. If she did do those things in the same house as the child that was wrong but she probably felt that the child was sleeping and would not be affected. You do not know her so cannot claim to know her motives for fighting so hard for custody. She didn't even have such a bad relationship with her ex - who was also a drug user - prior to the custody battle so had no reason to go to so much effort and spend all that money just to hurt him. She is very honest about her flaws including admitting her shortcomings as a mother and that she did these things with the child in the house which she easily could have denied but has always maintained that she was a loving - if clueless - mother.

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>>I knew you'd throw the whiny feminist angle in somewhere, oh poor her, don't judge her just because she has a vagina.<<

I'm male. Also, you should probably learn how to construct a coherent sentence if you are going to try to make arguments on a message board. Your post reads like broken English. Again, you have limited knowledge about the subject at hand.
Your vitriol seems to be originating from some awful childhood experience or something. Was mom giving BJ's for crack when she was supposed to be breast-feeding you? Is that it? If so, sorry. Get therapy.

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Thrown how naive are you? Men can be feminists as well, which clearly you are.

No, my post was constructed carefully and coherently, however as I did not bother to go to the time to quote you and put it in nice inverted commas, as you are not that important, it requires you use your grey matter to contruct a respectful reply, which you never did. Instead of childishly criticizing the poster that dared attack your beloved drug whore, just stick to the topic and not the poster.

You have some imagination there thrown, how about you actually leave the psychoanalysing to the real experts and not the frauds.

Sounds like you're speaking from expereince thrownmuse. You must be proud of your mom, her and Marianne sound like they have a lot in common.

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This thread is turning into a slanging match similar to something you would hear between adolescent boys.

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I was referring to you dismissing me as "lady." And lorna is right. I'm done with this.

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We've been watching this thread for some time, and I must confess, I'm impressed by your ability to lead them to HIM.

On a side note, you're not invited to play Dungeons and Dragons tomorrow. Talk to Golgo.

I don't think, therefore I am not.

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User, you obviously think people are not capable of changing. Marianne had stated in many documentaries that she was a horrible mother, and how she regretted losing her son. It was the sixties, an era when people were foolish, and lead a very hedonistic lifestyle. There were many people who lead the same lifestyle as Marianne, but because she is famous, you think you're entitle to come on here and bash her, rightfully so! However, if you have a heart at all, you would be able to find the good in a person. By the way, I am a male, and I think it is very lazy of anyone to use 'slut' to slander a promiscuous women. What about men? Hm?

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If you are such an amazing role model, why are you posting hate about a stranger on the internet? Haven't you got something better to do, like save the world etc.

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" People in glass houses......."

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The sympathy for a neglectful mother here is astonishing.

Look, people, imagine that we were talking about Bristol Palin. OHHHHH! Seeing things differently yet? YES, imagine that Bristol Palin dragged her drugged ass around various U.S. cities doing cocaine and crack while Tripp toddled about with a five-day-old diaper, hungry, and sad. Imagine Bristol Palin neglecting her kid to the point that he's taken from her by Alaska's Child Protective Services -- and she wails and protests and tries to kill herself. Then she goes back to taking drugs, winds up homeless . . .

Are you finding your inner judge yet?


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Look, people, imagine that we were talking about Bristol Palin. OHHHHH! Seeing things differently yet? YES


I read Marianne's autobiography and there was scant reference to herself as a mother. Indeed when she was living on the streets as a junkie there was no mention of her son at all. Presumably he was in the care of his father. I was shocked by her promiscuity and her nonchalance regarding some of her sexual encounters. I might hesitate to call her a 16d0 slut because many pop stars at that time were 'sluts' (male and female) but she wasn't a good mother.

Sad to say that after reading her autobiography I disliked the person she was describing.

Away with the manners of withered virgins

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