Jared Leto : He'll never portray The Joker again.

He'll never portray The Joker again.

His recent comments that he felt tricked into playing the role as it was pitched differently to him on top of the "f em" comment towards Warner's exec has to piss the suits off. I don't think he'll be allowed to continue with the character. I would not be surprised if they said he was an imposter or the dead Robin regardless of what Ayer said. We may see a recast with a more traditional looking Joker in the DCEU for the Batman solo flick.

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He has every right to feel that way. We were all tricked. All his scenes were cut or trimmed. It's really too bad.

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LOL they'd be lucky to have him back. DC doesn't deserve all those good actors with how WB is screwing up these movies

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i really really really hope the next movie they reveal he was an impostor or a fake joker and the real joker will show up

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He was presented as the loverboy and the guy who only care for his woman , so maybe this joker is an illusion in Harley Quinn's mind.

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damn, wow i like that

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I am pretty sure some of this was taken out of context. The original source of this was tumblr and the person has deleted there entire site lol.

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Your right it was totally taken out of context.

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I would say *beep* em too. If they don't let him out of his contract, I would be a belligerent ass hole through out the production of the next film.

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The choice of another actor doesn't change a bad script and bad edited scenes.

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He'll be back as The Joker, before these actors and actresses take part in these roles they have to sign a contract for them to appear in future installments.

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Yeah, it seems like Leto is actively trying to back out of his deal by pissing the studio off.

The Joker character is the crown jewel of the entire DC lore - it is a draw and it can carry a movie if handled properly. If this doesnt work out, it is a huge, huge mess up on WB and DCs parts. How do you f_uck up the Joker?

But if it indeed does not work out, maybe the studio is not entirely to blame. Maybe Letos performance truly did suck, so they cut most of it and left only the bits which were more acceptable.

He was overacting BADLY in many scenes, to the point of being cringeworthy to be honest. So maybe Leto should accept part of the blame and not just point fingers?





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In the overacting part, he nailed pretty great, because the Joker is a character that is always performing and thinks that he is in a big stage where is performing his shows of stand-up comic. That's one of the traits of the character. If people like it or not then it's another story.

What failed about this Joker had to do with the script and not with the actor. The Joker is an antagonist in his essence and that wasn't explored in the film.

It was the script and the editing that did not live up the character.
Do you really believe that any other actor would do better with that script and with choppy and very bad selected scenes?

The studio cut so must about the Joker but instead of cutting what wasn't necessary to the story like the striptease club scene, they decided to cut parts like how the Joker twisted Harley Quinn and the parts where the Joker interacted with the squad.

They even changed that scene from the first trailer (comicon trailer) that most people loved for a must worst scene.

So now tell me who's the blame?

The character was diminished on purpose and there are many reasons for that.

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The Joker does not have to overact. Look at Heath Ledger. He was insane, but his performance was grounded enough so it did not become a caricature.


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Heath Ledger was not the Joker I always knew from the comics.I always saw Heath Ledger, in terms of behavior, more like a mix of sociopaths than the Joker. In terms of appearance he looked like the crow.

I know that most people only know the Joker from Heath Ledger performance in the Dark Knight, but the joker has a long run much before Ledger. The Joker was always portrayed as a clown who is always performing his chaotic gags on the stage. In the comics, he usually overacts even more than what you saw in Leto's acting. I know that people might not like it, but it is one of his traits.

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Even if Ledger's Joker was a performance of the year, it was still massively overrated by some people. I constantly felt that I was watching Ledger switching between gears of how to be. A little eye gesture here. It was an unconvincing attempt at being reptilian. A little flick of the tongue here. If Johnny Depp had played the role it would have been similar. The character did not seem to come naturally to him. I mean, how many times in his life was blonde, popular, Ledger likely to have felt like The Joker? No wonder it drained him. Maybe it made him see how shallow many people are. And the anarchist script Ledger was given was so 'credit crunch fashionable' that it makes me sick, the opportunity that they wasted to make Ledger's Joker actually kill decent numbers of people in inventive ways.

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As good as a performance he did, Heath ledger by no point was the Joker. Read a comics first, that is the source material, then we can talk. Heath Ledger was not the real Joker.

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Sigh. Look, Jeremy Irons said the same thing about BvS, but that hasn't affected his involvement with any upcoming DC films. I think Leto's gonna be fine.

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What he said it wasn't in official interviews. Still, no one is sure what he really said because all is based on what supposedly some fans said about what he said.

Actually, after what the Studio did, Jared should have given them a kick in the ass. That was what they deserved at least. He was too polite and decent.

I would like to give them a kick in the ass and many fans would like to do the same as well.

They don't have to change the actors because the actors were the only good thing about the movie. They have to chang 2000 e the people who make the decisions and directors who know how to adapt comic books for films. And above all, they have to be honest and not mislead the public with false advertisement.

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If he wasn't familiar with the massive source material and cultural significance of the character AND he had no personal vision for the character, he shouldn't have taken the role. Yeah, the studio messed up big time, but so did he. His ego told him to jump at this opportunity to play the most desired villain of all time, but he had absolutely no deeper purpose or inspiration to do so.

Neither Leto or WB had any artistic vision going into the project. It's on both of them.

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If he wasn't familiar with the massive source material and cultural significance of the character AND he had no personal vision for the character


Really? So he was the one who wrote the script! And I thought that he was just the actor.


His ego told him to jump at this opportunity to play the most desired villain of all time, but he had absolutely no deeper purpose or inspiration to do so


His ego? So now your ego is saying that his ego made him choose the role. I guess we have an ego winner and it is not Jared Leto.


In case that you don't know, when Jared signed for the role there was not a script written yet. He signed a character and an idea for a story. The main story and the character were fascinating, so no wonder he signed before reading the script.
If you weren't so judgemental then you would know that Jared only does characters that are interesting and challenging to him. He has chosen controversial characters in low-budget films where he gave it all, much more than he did for the Joker role and without receiving money or awards like in requiem for the dream or chapter 27. So see how egocentric he is when he chooses his roles.


Neither Leto or WB had any artistic vision going into the project. It's on both of them.


All the decisions were made by Ayer who wrote and directed the film and Warner Bros who interfered a lot in the making of the film especially in te reshoots and in the final edition. Jared as only an actor, followed a script and the directions of Ayer. His footage was screwed in the edition room to make his scenes completely decontextualised. Even that first scene of the Joker from the first trailer that became the visit card for this film was altered for worst version of it.

I don't know how he managed to shine in a role that was so screwed, but many people loved this version.

In terms of appearance (without the tattoos or grill) and body language, this is a Joker thousand times more loyal to that created by Bob Kane in 1940 than its predecessor. For many longtime fans of DC Comics, this is the real Joker.







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I realize that creative control wasn't entirely in his hands. Still, the impression I get from his interviews is that he expected this role to push his creative limits and cement his interpretation of the Joker as iconic, and when this didn't play out, he tried blaming the studio in as vague a way as possible. He didn't take any artistic or professional responsibility for his poor decisions. You really don't think any of it's on him? In spite of the fact that his high level of excitement and effort were documented throughout the making of the movie, he wants to detach himself from the project now that it's out and now that it sucks. Isn't that odd?

Obviously, I'm inferring this through my own subjective lens, and cannot prove that this is objectively how it went down. It's simply my opinion and I'm simply confident in my inference. You can disagree with me, but I'm not ignorant, and judgmental is a word that can describe pretty much anyone with an account on this website, seeing as the whole point of IMDB is to make positive and negative judgments about cinema and the people involved in it.

I... it's not easy to respond to your writing. It's just a bunch of logical fallacies. It's easy to see what's wrong with this role and it's easy to recognize when someone simply doesn't want to see it. I get that you're a Leto fan but there's no indignity in acknowledging when an artist that you like does something subpar. It's honestly quite healthy and grounding, since these people are just people and are really flawed. There's no point in defending this film when it's been implied as indefensible even by the people with the highest stakes in it.

You know what I'm sayin' Morty?

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it's not easy to respond to your writing. It's just a bunch of logical fallacies


Then you should start to read your own posts to see how illogical a writing can be.



the impression I get from his interviews is that he expected this role to push his creative limits and cement his interpretation of the Joker as iconic,


He always gives his best. He gave all for previous roles. Why wouldn't he want to do the same with Joker? It's not because it is the Joker. He went further for previous roles.

Hey, try to gather some knowledge before making absurd judgments.



and when this didn't play out, he tried blaming the studio in as vague a way as possible.


He blamed no one in the interviews. You must be listening things if you heard him blaming someone. He said: " for the people who want more Joker, I want it too"

He was disappointed but believe there were fans who were really upset when they realized that there was almost no Joker in the film. Although the Joker marketing campaign and all the cool scenes that fans watched in the trailers, most were gone or changed like that iconic scene from the first trailer that was changed for a much worst version of it.

I know at least one fan who wants to prosecute Warner Bros and this guy didn't have to work his ass off to make the movie.


He didn't take any artistic or professional responsibility for his poor decisions.



He took responsibility for all his decisions and never 5b4 denied anything that he had done. He went method and never denied.

He never took the responsibility of the script or the directing, because he didn't do it. Although he is a good director, in this film he was just an actor who had to follow a script and the director orders.



You really don't think any of it's on him? In spite of the fact that his high level of excitement and effort were documented throughout the making of the movie, he wants to detach himself from the project now that it's out and now that it sucks. Isn't that odd?


I really don't know you are talking about, because Jared made the film interviews, went to the events and also did the premieres. How did he detach himself from the movie?

He just said that he would like that the fans could see more of the Joker. How can you consider that as a detachment of his work if he wants people to see it?


when an artist that you like does something subpar.


Whatever he has done something subpar is a matter of perspective. For some people, this portrayal of the Joker was great even with very little screen time and barely tapped into the story.

Blind and ignorant people always blame the actors for all the good or the bad, without realizing that they have to do what is written in a script and follow the director orders. Jared didn’t write that script, 111c David Ayer did. Why don't you mention the bad script and the lack of engagement of the character in the story due to David Ayer choices? Ayer was the one who made all the choices because he was the writer and the director.

You must have seen how badly the Joker scenes were cut and introduced in the film. Don't tell me that you blame Jared for that too?


When you say that were Jared's choices, your opinions are so shallow because of your negative narrow point of view. If another actor had been chosen, he still had to follow that same script and Ayer's directions and more, all his scenes would also end up screwed in the edition room.

Finally, your previous posts are not opinions about what you think about his work. You are judging his personality and his intentions about playing the Joker.
Don't forget that the way you judge the others' character, you are judged in the same way.




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What's an edition room? I've seen you post it a couple times in posts. Do you mean editing room?

Also I don't understand why you resort to attacking people with insults when someone disagrees with you. It's hard to take your argument seriously when you do that.

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Can you please tell me how exactly did I insult someone because I don’t see it? You have to tell in order to help.
I Don’t think that I attack people with insults. Many people come here very often just to insult , but that’s not definitely my position here. At least I don’t go around attacking or judging people, like most people who came here do.
I responded in the same tone than the previous post. If you read my comments more carefully you will realize that I attacked the arguments, not the person. There were no personal offenses and I didn’t use any nasty words.
I usually use the word “mirror” in my posts every time someone is offensive, because when you offend someone, celebrity or not, those offensive words say more about you than about the people you are trying to offend.
If you think my message is hostile, so what do say about most comments posted on IMDb?
Thanks for the tip! By the way, don’t be scandalize, but errors are frequent in here. But we are lucky because we can always amend it.

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Yes, I see that you did edit out an insult you claimed you didn't make.


If you weren't so *ignorant and* judgemental then you would know that Jared only does characters that are interesting and challenging to him.

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So different account but the same person. Interesting!

I was attacking your arguments, not you.

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See, now you're just being silly. I have no idea who bahamut is. Never met him/her. I just thought you calling them ignorant was childish when all they did was politely disagree with you.

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I suspected from you when I realized that your last posting had been on Thu Jun 23 2016 12:48.

Why would someone after all this time decide to comment my message directed to Bahamut saying how impolite I was to him/her? Weird, isn't it? Most comments on IMDb are more impolite than mine and so after all this time, you decide precisely comment my post defending Bahamut.

Then I tried to throw the bait to see if you catch it. And you catch it just like I predicted.



“I just thought you calling them ignorant was childish when all they did was politely disagre 111c e with you.”




Yah, you are many people here on IMDb. By the way, you were being ignorant when you assumed that Jared took the Joker role because of his ego. It is ok if you don’t like his portrayal of the character,but you don’t have to assume things that you don’t know, such as the reasons who led him to choose that role. Your assumptions are the only thing childish here.

You could have had your opinion about his role without judging his character or his intentions.

Jared did what he had to do, unfortunately just like many critics said, they didn’t give him screen time enough and much to do or say in Suicide Squad.

In his scenes that appeared onscreen, he just had a few lines to say, little to do and random laughs here and there. Like this, it's difficult to make any kind of impact.

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I find you amusing. I am the mother of 3 children who comes here occasionally to read reviews and other people's thoughts on films/actors that I like. I happen to agree with points that both you and bahamut made. I commented because I thought you were being an ego maniac, who has a peculiar fascination with Jared Leto, and was also being a dick to a guy/girl who disagreed with you. I was just trying to let you know that a better approach might work out better for you. I doubt it, but one can always hope. Good luck, troll.

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I am the mother of 3 children


Yah! And I'm the mother of dragons.



You didn’t post since Thu Jun 23 2016 12:48, and after all this time you decide to comment my message directed to Bahamut saying how impolite I was to him/her. What a coincidence!



I was just trying to let you know that a better approach might work out better for you. I doubt it, but one can a 111c lways hope.


Do you go around IMDb protecting all the people who are offended by others?

If you do, then you have a lot to do.

A mother of three children who has nothing better to do than to defend the "poor" bahamut. You're not even a very good liar, are you?

I'm sure you read nothing worst here on IMDb.
Most people on IMDb have been more attacked and offended than bashamut.
















I don’t know for sure but you probably you have more accounts.


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I don?t know for sure but you probably you have more accounts.


I don't know for sure but you seem to have multiple personalites. Get help. I really wish bahamut would reply again and put your delusions to rest, but I suspect he is done dealing with your stupidity as much as I am. You can believe what you want but I can assure you that if imdb were to check our ip adresses we most likely live no where near each other. This is the only account I have and I know as much about bahamut as I know about you. Wait....correction....I know that you can't handle opinions different than yours. Maybe you should take a break from the internet?

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Also, I had to google bahamut because I didn't know what that meant. Bahamut is a dragon deity in Dungeons and Dragons. And then there's your Game of Thrones dragon reference. Using your logic, maybe you are bahamut. Yup, Your logic just proved it. Wow, you're a genius! *sarcasm

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Yah I could be bahamut! One part of me attacks Jared Leto and the other part defends him.

I was impolite to myself. So thank you but I don't need your defense.

There's a lot of people on IMDb who are being more insulted, so go defend those in need.

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You are the Troll! You are the one who came out of nowhere and landed here.



..I know that you can't handle opinions different than yours.


And I know that you at least have two accounts, you are a lousy deceiver and a couple of things more...



Maybe you should take a break from the internet?


Ok. Maybe I'll use another account as you did.

Bye Bye Bye

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Actually you are a lousy detective and a creepy stalker to boot. To be honest,I think you know I am being truthful. It's just that you don't have any other good or intelligent comebacks, so you make up this weird scenario in your head to make up for your inadequacies . You actually lost this arguement way before I appeared an 5b4 d you don't even realize it. Too funny. Now run along and go have a good pout, troll. :D

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lol wtf

this is surreal

now i'm worried that the two of you are just one person messing with my head

movibiju, we aren't the same person. it's not weird for another person to comment on another person's conversation on a public message board. it's actually quite common to defend someone or criticize someone on a forum since it's essentially one big shared conversation. just because he doesn't agree with the way your talking to me doesn't mean that we're the same person...

i get that you are a huge jared leto fan and i don't want to take that away from you. however, i will say this: you don't have to stop being a fan just because he did something bad, and just because you're a huge fan doesn't mean you have to defend him to the grave, and it especially doesn't mean you have to disrespect people who don't share your admiration of him. he's just a guy

please take care movibiju :)

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Look Bahamut or Bad Popsicle or whoever you are more around here, why don't you try to fool somebody else?

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This post is 4.5 years old, and he was the Joker in Zack Snyder's Justice League.

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