Politics : China accused of force and coercion to drive up vaccination rates

https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/09/28/chinas-use-force-and-coercion-drive-its-covid-19-vaccination-rate-not-answer

What's the difference between what they're doing and what we're doing?

It won't be long before the vaccine refusers are basically cut off from normal life here.

yea, I think that's a bit extreme.

It wouldnt surprise me though as China is an extremist country.

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Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
Without strife, there is only stagnation.

We're not that far off from China nowadays. There are people in this country that would want to do that same thing.

It won't be long before the vaccine refusers are basically cut off from normal life here.

That would be great if it actually happened.

There's no such thing as an authoritarian utopia. You might enjoy the journey, but once you reach the destination, it sucks for everyone.

You've denied having an affinity for China before, but I honestly think you'd love it there.

You wouldn't understand it, being as dumb as you are, but rational adults in the room want public heath protected during a pandemic and creating meaningful, punishing consequences for bad choices which endanger the rest of us makes perfect sense.

It's sort of like handing out fines for running a red light.

Again, I know this all goes over your head.

I don't think you know what choice means.

I don't think you know what choice means.

I don't think you know what moral responsibility is.

I don't think you know know what civic duty is.

I don't think you know what preserving public safety and saving human lives during a pandemic means.

Fundamentally, you don't understand that choices which harm others will and must have consequences.

Fundamentally, you don't understand that choices which harm others will and must have consequences.

Doesn't sound like a choice to me.

So any choice the state or other institutions reacts to with punishment or censor means you don't really have a choice.

You're even more of a knuckle-dragging dumb fuck than I had thought. Literally, no society of any significance would ever last more than a week with people as dumb and intellectually crippled as you are in charge.

Thanks for showing more of your hand.

So any choice the state or other institutions reacts to with punishment or censor means you don't really have a choice.

Yes, that's correct.

I find it bizarre that, given the well documented history of government corruption and big pharma blunders, people are blithely accepting this current situation.

However even if the vaccine was 100% safe (it isn't, by the way), no government should insist we take medication. It's a sad indictment of the modern world that most people appear to have grown up not knowing why that is so wrong.

I find it bizarre that, given the well documented history of government corruption and big pharma blunders, people are blithely accepting this current situation.

That's because most of the rest of us are rational grownups without mental issues. Of course you couldn't possibly relate to that.

Fundamentally, I think you are mental and a tosser of the first order. NOBODY owes you or society jacksquat over a fallacy.

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Norman! What did you put in my tea?

well for one taking them by force and holding them down to give the vaccine is not what is done here. we don't cut off programs or assistance either. it's china and they are thugs.

Yet.

We're almost there.