Lisa Bonet : lisa bonet and bill cosby

lisa bonet and bill cosby

im hearing story that cosby ask bonet to do the reunion and she sayed no.but who can believe anything cosby sayed.i think if he would have treated bonet with more respect she would have come back in done the reuinion special.
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Why everyone back cosby up he nothing but a temple fan that always hated the fact that she was better than him.But thats ok someday the real story will be took.

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The facts speak for themselves ;
How many shows did Bill Cosby have before, during and after the Huxtables ?
How many shows did Lisa Bonet have ?
How much pay does Bill Cosby get to speak in public ? Colleges ect.
How much if any does Lisa Bonet get ?
I am not taking sides just looking at the facts....mam....or sir

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Well Codby wanted everything to be perfect, but that is tough, it's show buisness and some things go wrong.

"Keep your friends close, and you're enemies closer" - Katherine, Cruel Intentions

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Lisa is nothing but a stuck up, out of control wild child. She needs become an adult and learn some responsibilty.

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You know what? I'm mad now!!


You know , shes a *beep* that *beep* up two sitcoms! And that's bad for business! Very bad for *beep* buisness. I swear. If she ruins another *beep* sitcom, I will diss her and embarass her.

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"Keep your friends close,and your enemies closer" No that line was first said by Michael Corleone,from THE GODFATHER PART 2

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so, far, this seems the most reasonable non-judgmental explanation for the fallout.

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Bill kept giving Lisa chances to revamp her career, but she blew it.

Talk about wasting one's time and effort....


SAD

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I'm saying...he developed a whole show for her---did you ever hear of "A Different World"? I don't know the ins & outs of what happened between her and Mr. Cosby but at the same time, I know that he went all out for her.

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OMG, please go to school and learn at least some of the basic rules needed to create a correct sentence!

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Man, shut the hell up!

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I agree, learn good English.

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Listen LISA is my girl and let me set the record striaght...

Do any of you know that Mr. Cosby wanted to have an affair
with Lisa and she turned his senile ASS down?

He was in awe of her and she was the reason
his tired, make-believe show had the ratings it did.

So please don't talk about my girl LISA! I wouldn't have
done the show either.

She is older now and "The Cosby Show" is the past!

Best,
Tam

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Yeah... sure you know her...

To rlr84

When I said that I knew her I don't mean
that I know personally but I've
read enough about her to know why
she doesn't have anything to do with
Cosby and why she wouldn't do his
show again. Lisa has been very
open about Cosby and the
show in various magazines
interviews that I have read...

That's all I was saying

Peace,
Tam

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Whatever. He or she deserves it.

Happy 44th Birthday to Tragedy Styles, A.K.A. S.T. Stories.

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What kind of *beep* is that?! He wanted a girl 30 years younger than him? Give us some proof to that, back your words up. Let me guess, you can't? You idiot. The show got big because of him, not Lisa Bonet.

"I drink too much. The last time I gave a urine sample it had an olive in it."
Rodney Dangerfield

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Ah yes, that's why they called it the Lisa Bonet Show, and that's why the next to have another show with their name wasn't "Cosby", it was "Bonet".

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I hope your not talking to me.

Happy 44th Birthday to Tragedy Styles, A.K.A. S.T. Stories.

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"Lisa is nothing but a stuck up, out of control wild child. She needs become an adult and learn some responsibilty."

Ohh, you dumbass, thats hilarious, she's like what? pushing 40 years old? yea right wild child who needs to become and adult, you are such an idiot.

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You need to grow up and become an adult and stop putting dumb things on the internet. What was it that she did that madeher appear that she was not an adult? Please think before posting messages...

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Putting Lisa Bonet and Bill Cosby in the same sentance is really kind of ridiculus. Lisa Bonet has done nothing important as an actress. Nothing at all. She lucked up and got on the COSBY SHOW can you say COSBY SHOW and that made her famous but she threw it all away to get butt nakid with Mickey Rourke in a sleazy sluttly little role.

Cosby on the other hand was the first African American to star in a major TV series (I Spy) and the first to have his own TV series ( The Bill Cosby SHow) and the first to have a Number One TV series for 9 or ten year straight. He also had a series of sucessful movies in 70's starring Sidney Portie(?) and Richard Pryor and a host of other Great actors. There is so much you can say about this man. He is great.

So why is there any question that Lisa needed to sit her little hot ass down and listen to the man when he was trying to tell her some things. He didn't have to respect her she needed to show some respect and some gratitude.

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BILL COSBY DID NOT MAKE LISA BONET OR MADE HER FAMOUS. HAS AN ACTRESS YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE ACTING. JUST BECAUSE SHE DID A MOVIE THAT YOU AND OTHERS DISAPPROVE OF DOES NOT GIVE BILL COSBY OR ANYBODY THE RIGHT TO MAKE JUDGMENT. THE MAIN PROBLEM WITH BILL COSBY AND LISA BONET CENTERS AROUND THE FACT THAT SHE HAS A MIND OF HER OWN AND SHE LIVES BY HER OWN RULES. WHETHER SOMEONE AGREES WITH IT OR NOT, IS NOT IMPORTANT. YES, SHE IS NOT HAS FAMOUS AS BILL COSBY AND REMEMBER HE HAS BEEN IN THE GAME FOR A LONG TIME. LOOK AT HIS PERSONAL SIDE WHO CAN RESPECT A MAN THAT IN REALITY NOT ACTING SPENT 25 YEARS TRYING TO HIDE HIS INFIDITY FOR THE WORLD SO HE COULD NOT BE JUDGE. AT LEAST LISA WAS ACTING AND GOT PAID FOR IT. BILL COSBY WAS LIVING A DOUBLE LIFE AND A LIE AND LISA HAS THE GUTS TO BE TRUTHFUL TO HER CRAFT AND NOT GO ALONG WITH HOLLYWOOD *beep* BILL COSBY TRY TO MAINTAIN AN IMAGE THAT IS PHONEY AND BECAUSE HE BILL COSBY HE CAN'T DO NO WRONG. I AM QUITE SURE LISA IS LIVING HER LIFE THE WAY SHE WANTS TO LIVE IT. MAYBE HER CAREER IS NOT WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN SINCE THE COSBY SHOW; BUT WHAT STAR ACTOR DO YOU KNOW SPENT THEIR CHILDHOOD IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA. I AM QUITE SURE IF YOU WERE TO INTERVIEW BILL COBSY FAMILY I AM QUITE SURE YOU WILL GET A DIFFERENT SIDE OF HIS PERSONALITY. BILL COSBY NAME GIVES HIM POWER. REMEMBER HIS BOOK ABOUT FATHERHOOD. ON A PERSONAL SIDE BILL COSBY CAN NOT TELL ANYONE HOW TO LIVE THEIR LIFE. PLEASE GO AND READ SOME ARTICLE ABOUT HIM AND THE RELATIONSHIP HE HAD WITH HIS OWN KIDS. HE COULD BARELY RAISE HIS OWN KIDS AND CONTROL THEIR LIFES AND BECAUSE OF HIS STATUS OF BEING BILL COSBY AND HIS YEARS IN HOLLYWOOD. I RESPECT HIM AS A ACTOR BUT HAS A DECENT HUMAN BEING IS QUESTIONABLE.

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Can you chill with the caps

How are you so "quite sure" what his family thinks or feels? I never heard His wife Camille come out and say anything but nice things about her Great and wildly successful husband. Nor have I heard of any of his children saying anything ethier. Except for the so called illigetimate one who he offered to send to college for free but who insted chose to try to extort money from him at the expense of his good name. And after all that he had done for them taken care of her and her mother for years.

Matter fact you are just so confused about the issue of professional choices verses personal choices that I don't really think you can grasp what I am really talking about. A career decision is not a personal choice like weather to be straight or gay. If you are gay it is your business unless you are like Ellen who comes out and makes a statement to the world and kisses girls on tv and stuff. What Cosby did or didn't say about his personal affairs is a personal choice. But what he said or told Lisa Bonet about her decision to star in certain kinds of movies is a professional choice that effects alot of people that have invested in her stardom. And what do you mean that Cosby didn't make her famous?

As a star you are a commodity, an investment and you owe the people that helped you get there some respect you just don't spit in their faces by make rash decisions just because you are head strong and young.
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You personally need to chill with what the cap you are saying. I am not quite sure what is family is saying or feeling, but I do know there was a article that his daughter had discussed in Ebony magazine years ago and she did not paint her father as "father knows best." When did you hear all of this about his wife saying something nice and great about her husband. If she did, she knows where her bread and butter are coming from. Regardless of how great you think Bill Cosby is has a human being he makes mistakes and with someone of his status it easy to overlook the mishappens all because of his professional status in hollywood.

Cosby did not make her famous! He created a show that has his surname, and the character made her famous. It was her personality and the protrayal of "Denise" that made her famous. Cosby does not have the ability to make anybody famouse it the drive and will of that person to bring the character alive that makes them famous. I am quite sure there are plenty of actors/ actress in Hollywood that Cosby has came in contact with and they are not famous.

I am in totally agreement with a star is a commodity. Yes, people invest in their career and I guarantee you, those who invested in her career got paid along the way. Hollywood is a business. People are not going to do you a favor just because they like you. You have to give in order to get something in return. Doing your own thing is not spiting in someone face. It simply means what you have already stated above. People are individual and have a mind of their own; they don't need someone playing them like a puppet. Monkey see; Monkey do. If my memory serves me right, Bill Cosby was in agreement with Lisa doing the movie; but because of all the hype , criticism, and negativity surrounding the movie; he became two faced.

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1. Once again I cannot judge a celebrity on his personal choices ie family affairs, drug usage, promiscuity. Everyone that has strived to achieve a something great has had to sacrifice something to get there. Like time playing with the kids at the park, romantic evenings with the wife or whatever.

2. I see that you want to nit and pick about the "actual thing" that bestowed fame upon Lisa Bonet. Well I have to admit that many events had to come together in order for her to get her big break. But all that I a saying is that everybody on that show except for Cosby was an unknown before they were cast to star on the Cosby show. And now they are all are famous. If Cosby had the say so in choosing his cast members then he can rightfully say he was responsible for their fame.
There are a host of no name wannbes that could have played the role of Denise, all you had to be was young, hot and marginally talented. For that matter there were a whole host of Black actresses who could roll their necks and cut their eyes like Clair Huxtable. As talented as Feliaha Rashad is there was but only one funny person on the show; Bill Cosby. He drove almost all the skits with his unique brand of humor and everybody else played straight man with their perspective characters. Until Raven came along. Raven obiviously had real talent too. Now you can try to be as technical as you wish but without Cosby then Lisa Bonet would still be Lost in obscurity.
A Different World gave us a chance to see just who dull of a screen presence she really was. Every week she was dying on that show. She didn't have to work hard on the Cosby show cause Bill was doing all funny stuff, all she had to do was laugh,pout,say OH Dad! and be surprised or what ever. But on the Different World she had to carry a much bigger load and she couldn't. It took Jasmine guy to really bring some life to the show and work the screen with pazazz.

3. Oh contrar, A puppet on a string is a perfect analogy. Agencys invest a lot of money into sculpting a marketable image for stars. Often times they have to be puppets on a string especially in the early days. If you read the contracts of many of these stars you will find that they have a lot of things that they are forbidden to do. But in exchange they are granted great wealth, privilidge and celebrity. Imagine if Tom Cruise was really Gay like the rumors. His box office draw might be ruined. So for him to show up in the exquirier kissing some guy might be catstropic for his career. Mabey not now but surely 15 year ago that was very Taboo.
And with that being said, memory does not serve you correctly, Cosby was against her doing the Angel Heart role from that beginning. He told her it was a bad career move and that it would effect the integrity of the Denise character. It was after that movie that she left the show under the guise of being away at college. Then the spin off came.
I think she was kicked off the show.

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Well, I was not trying to get in an argument with you. I will just say this, you have your believes and I have mine. It's obvious anything I say negative about Cosby it's going to turn in to some big thing with you. It's obvious you a fan and sometimes fan can see beyond reality of a person's character they are playing as an actor. It was not nit picking, I was trying to point out certain characteristic of the real Bill Cosby as oppose to his character that he plays. Yes , he's famous and has alot of clout in hollywood. When a man of his status has reached a certain point fan can not see beyond the fame. Just one more thing, Cosby was for the the movie Angel Heart. It was well known that Cosby knew about the movie and the explicit sex screen and the medica made sure a big hype about it that BIll Cosby began to sing a different tune. I quess he felt all the slack because she was on the COsby SHow and it bared his name.

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I am not arguing with you, this is a healthy debate which is what the forum is all about.

You think that I think that Cosby is perfect. I never said that. I Said I don't fault him for being less then perfect with his personal life. I can only speak about his achievements and failures as an actor and public figure. What I know for sure about "The Cos" is about his ground breaking achievements as a comedic actor and as a philantrapist in support of Black colleges as well as being a civil right activist. My question is why would you even dare to try to hold Lisa Bonet in some sort of high esteem and then say something negative about Cosby.

But this site is not really about Cosby it is about Lisa. And there is very little positive that she has done. I am looking forward to her doing something really good one day.

So don't be discouraged by my opinions, I respect you for having your own valid perspective. I have injoyed voicing my opinions and trying to get at some truth. I did go back over all your past remarks and I see you have some strong opinions of your own and you had previously expressed some opinions that I later reitterated with out knowing you had done so. Thanks for reading.

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Just regarding what lblack18 said about Bill Cosby and Lisa Bonet making the movie Angel Heart- how on earth would you know whether or not Cosby was INITIALLY against or for the movie? Do you know him in person? Obviously not. What we can believe is what was said in the news and pure logic- imagine if you were Bill Cosby, running what was probably the greatest family sitcom of all time about a wholesome family and their kids, and then one of the most prominent kids of the show goes off and decides to make a semi-porno movie?? Of course you would be against it- it would ruin the standing of the character in the show, as far as the character has been built up. And yes, it was obviously a bad career choice for Lisa.

I think Lisa Bonet is beautiful and is a great actress, but she def. has issues to sort out. Cosby was also one of the greatest entertainers of our time, and he may have made bad personal choices before, the truth of which we'll never know, but lets not diss the man. I totally agree with Detroitblue.

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That great you totally agreet with Detroit. Anyway, I was talking from several articles that was written about it. It's Obvious you did not read any of the article that I read. I quess you know Bill Cosby so well that he actually said no when Lisa Bonet made the movie Angel Heart. Regardless of what your opinion is about the subject matter it was in article and If I'm not mistaken Entertainment Tonight interviewed Bill Cosby about Lisa's decision and he was in agreement with the movie. This was doing after the movie was released. Whether Bill Cosby knew about the sexual scene was going to be that graphic, I don't know. So, what the Cosby Show was a family sitcom. As a actress it was her choice whether we agree or did not agree with it. As a actress you take chances and people accept it that great if not you move on and do other things. Who's the say if Lisa Bonet make the movie Angel Heart would she have been well known? and if so, WOuld she had been a successful actress? Oh, by the way personally, I do not know BIll Cosby, but I have met him before.
Thanks for your input. Still disagree with it. Have a wonderful day.

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my source was a friend who's mom was working on the set of the cosby show when this happened. anyway- you have your opinion and i have mine.

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Knowing Bill Cosby's public personna I find it doubtful that he would have endorsed a film like Angel Heart for any reason.

As you know, Bill is famous for being a Clean comic in a business where vugarity gets you lots of laughs, and he is known as a supporter of family values and he has been the Jello spokes man for about 40 years. Even now he is taking heat for telling black People that they need to straighten out their act. He has always stood for decency and social ethics and morality, non of these things can be said about that movie or the role that Lisa Bonet had in it.

If you just step back and think about it for a minute then you can see that there is really no way he would have signed off on that movie as something to watch or star in. But if I were to give you the benefit of the doubt about the content of these articles, it would be my Opinion that Bill Cosby had no problem with Lisa stepping out as an actress and starring in movies. But He surely was not aware of the content and subject matter of that film. Once he found out... well the rest is history.

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uh bill cosby did make lisa bonet famous he gave her her own show didt he but she *beep* up so

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Iblack18,

I was around at that time when Lisa signed up to make the movie. I like everybody was watching the show every week and loving me some Lisa. I can remember the controversy. All that I can recall was it being said tht Bill was mad a Lisa for doing that movie and that she was leaving the show because her performance was out cold. I went to see that movie when I first came out too. Damn... it was out cold and she got busy with the bloody sex and eating the raw chickens and all that.

Now according to your statments about the articles there is much more to the controversy than I am aware of due to the fact I didn't read the articles you read.

But I have been doing some extensive research on this matter. I have been searching the internet archives trying to find just one article about this controversy which took place back in "87", "88" wouldn't you say? I just want to find one statement quoting Cosby and talking about the Bonet situation.

I have checked archives of Jet Magazine and Ebony. I Have done broad searches for "Angel Heart" and Lisa Bonet and Bill Cosby. "87" was a long time ago but I got a few hits, nothing like a smoking gun to verify this point of interest. But I will continue to search for a little while longer and see what I turn up.

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JackPot! I've found a series of arcived interviews dating back to 1986 (pre- Angel Heart).

They cover her public and private life from many perspectives including her own. This is a real treasure for all you Lisa Bonet fans.

As far as the issue at hand. I di 5b4 d read one statement where Lisa said she had Cosby's blessing to do the movie Angel Heart. And there were other interviews that talk about the riff they had because she did the movie. She is vague about it.

But there is so much more to read. So take a hour and read them all then if you like we can talk about it.

Points of interest:

* She was 17 when she filmed Angel Heart and 19 when it was released.

* She considers herself a freak and muses that both Denise and Proudfoot are inside of her.

* She is so at home with her freaky side that her 10yr old daughter has "it's cool to be a freak" written on her sneakers.

* She admits her mistakes but accepts her past wholly.

* She does a lot of outreach with troubled youths

* She considers herself a pirate and has a band of women followers.


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Humm well...

I wondered about the age of the daughter myself.

However the article was written in 2003 I believe.

What ever the case may be, that was a direct quote from the article and i am not really inclined to look it up at this time. But you can follow the link and get the details if you care to do so.

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She was not 17 when she filmed Angel Heart, filming took place in 86-87, Lisa was 17 in 84-85. On the E! THS, one of the Cosby Show writers stated that Cosby did not have a problem with Angel Heart.

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How can you say that about his wife? How can you possibly know that she is only nice to him in the media because he got cash? You are an idiot!

"I drink too much. The last time I gave a urine sample it had an olive in it."
Rodney Dangerfield

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Lisa should thank Bill Cosby for trying to help her with her career.

Too bad Lisa has NO CAREER now.


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just b/c lisa has no acting career does not mean that she has no career. she has chosen to do a lot of social work, which is for the greater good, and very commendable. so, regarding an earlier post that said that she has done no good for anyone, that is not true.

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..... and she isn't banned from acting. She probably doesn't want to just like Joyce Dewitt doesn't want to.

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Dear lisa,

Not too much to say really, but I love you!!!


Hopefully i could meet you some day.

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Dream on.

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Is that English??
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