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There are 2 types of leftist

(1) Stupid ones who are still smart enough to know they can't win an argument with Ben Shapiro

(2) Really, really, really completely ****ing stupid ones who think they can.

Which are you?

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Who the hell is Ben Shapiro?

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I'm not a leftist but I can win an argument with anybody. Who the **** is Ben Shapiro?

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I'm not a leftist but I can win an argument with anybody.
In your own mind.
Who the **** is Ben Shapiro?
He's a successful Jew, one of "those types" you don't take kindly to.

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You're a moron. I've never said anything against Jews. I want a multi-religious multi-ethnic state in Palestine. And I've beat your ass every time we've tangled.

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And I've beat your ass every time we've tangled.
As I said, in your mind.

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Dude, I just beat you again. You have no evidence that I hate Jews or that you haven't retreated from every argument we've had.

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You have no evidence that I hate Jews
I won't be going back to dig up your comment history of your hatred of Jews, so I suppose you can declare that one a win.
or that you haven't retreated from every argument we've had.
Hmm, so if getting the last word equals victory then I think I'm actually up on you quite a bit. I personally don't find that as a very good metric, but if you say so then I'm still winning.

But I don't generally declare victory in my own arguments, losers tend to do that, but by your "last word" criteria it looks like you got some catching up to do.

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I have never said I hate Jews. I've said the opposite. Most my white friends and associates are Jewish. You're pulling that out of your ass because I'm against apartheid in Israel, like Jimmy Carter. Do you think Carter hates Jews too?

My point is you leave arguments without refutation. If you do it once, okay. But you always do it. I consider that a concession.

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My point is you leave arguments without refutation. If you do it once, okay. But you always do it. I consider that a concession.
Well that's complete bullshit. I've argued with you for hours, and don't actually remember abandoning arguments, in fact I'm pretty sure I've gotten the last word in most of our arguments. So I guess you've been abandoning and that's a concession? What nonsense. Get out of here that stupid "Last Word Victory" garbage.

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PC definitely does NOT like Jews!

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PS And Ben Shapiro is way smarter than he is, or anyone here for that matter!

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What is your problem? You know nothing about me if you think I've ever had a problem with Jews. You're a bigot against Uighurs who wants them in Chinese Communist concentration camps. Talk about left wing! laugh.gif

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My problem is antisemitic bigots like you. Not sure why you're laughing at that.

And if you know anything about me, you'll know that I never said I wanted the Uighurs or anyone else in Chinese Communist concentration camps. If you say I said that, you're a liar.

I simply said I don't care about them. Big difference there.

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If you don't care that the Chinese Communists are imprisoning, beating, torturing and brainwashing innocent Uighurs who have committed no crimes, that's bigotry.

If you can claim I am anti-Semitic because I oppose Zionism, then your shoe fits.

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In the first place, I do not know that for a fact. Please provide proof. And if it is true, I'm not in favor of it, but there's absolutely nothing I can do about it.

And in the second place yes, you are antisemitic. It shows through clearly in many of your posts, and in our debates. You just refuse to admit it. And other posters have also noticed it, so it's not just me.

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Bullshit, you throw that anti-Semitic nonsense at me as a red herring. You don't realize where I grew up, LA's West Side, the only tolerable white people here are Jewish. I'm critical of Israel, not Jews.

I've shown proof of Chinese human rights abuse of Uighurs before. You ignore it and say you don't care. Now that's bigotry.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/28/china-is-violating-uighurs-human-rights-the-united-states-must-act/

https://www.hrw.org/tag/uyghurs

https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/10/30/countries-blast-china-un-over-xinjiang-abuses

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As my esteemed colleague SV just pointed out, bigotry is an active negative. Not caring is a neutral negative. They are NOT the same. Are you too stupid to grasp that concept, or are you just being stubborn?

I simply don't care about them, because it's a group of people who want to kill me and you. Call me kooky.

And maybe the Chicoms have the right idea: put them in camps so they can't add to the total of 186,000 innocent civilians murdered by Muslims since 9/11.

And yes, you are antisemitic. You reek of it, and other posters have also noticed it.

BTW, are you enjoying your Meltie? I am. It's really funny. I've obviously touched a nerve there, snowflake.

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MovieManCin2 said... As my esteemed colleague SV just pointed out, bigotry is an active negative. Not caring is a neutral negative. They are NOT the same. Are you too stupid to grasp that concept, or are you just being stubborn?

I simply don't care about them, because it's a group of people who want to kill me and you. Call me kooky.

And maybe the Chicoms have the right idea: put them in camps so they can't add to the total of 186,000 innocent civilians murdered by Muslims since 9/11.

And yes, you are antisemitic. You reek of it, and other posters have also noticed it.

BTW, are you enjoying your Meltie? I am. It's really funny. I've obviously touched a nerve there, snowflake.

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I wouldn't get too cocky. As I pointed out. Apathy may well be a greater evil.

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Soul_Venom said... I wouldn't get too cocky. As I pointed out. Apathy may well be a greater evil.
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Cocky? Moi??

And btw, no offense, but the word you wanted there was too.

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MovieManCin2 said... As my esteemed colleague SV just pointed out, bigotry is an active negative. Not caring is a neutral negative. They are NOT the same. Are you too stupid to grasp that concept, or are you just being stubborn?

I simply don't care about them, because it's a group of people who want to kill me and you. Call me kooky.

And maybe the Chicoms have the right idea: put them in camps so they can't add to the total of 186,000 innocent civilians murdered by Muslims since 9/11.

And yes, you are antisemitic. You reek of it, and other posters have also noticed it.

BTW, are you enjoying your Meltie? I am. It's really funny. I've obviously touched a nerve there, snowflake.

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Having strong beliefs is not a "meltie". You're being disingenuous.

Not caring about child abuse is creepy. Not caring that Jews were interned in Nazi death camps is anti-Semitic. You keep bringing up some irrelevant point about anti-Semitism because you're losing the argument.

You just said it yourself. You support the Chinese Communists putting Uighurs in concentration camps because some Muslims somewhere murdered people. That's classic bigotry. I'm also beginning to believe you're a leftist.

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Platonic_Caveman said... Having strong beliefs is not a "meltie". You're being disingenuous.

Not caring about child abuse is creepy. Not caring that Jews were interned in Nazi death camps is anti-Semitic. You keep bringing up some irrelevant point about anti-Semitism because you're losing the argument.

You just said it yourself. You support the Chinese Communists putting Uighurs in concentration camps because some Muslims somewhere murdered people. That's classic bigotry. I'm also beginning to believe you're a leftist.
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But yelling "bullshit" is! And I never said I didn't care about Jews interned in Nazi death camps. I do. You're putting words in my mouth because you're losing the argument!

And I never said I supported what the Chicoms were doing, I just don't care.

And you are antisemitic.

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MovieManCin2 said... But yelling "bullshit" is! And I never said I didn't care about Jews interned in Nazi death camps. I do. You're putting words in my mouth because you're losing the argument!

And I never said I supported what the Chicoms were doing, I just don't care.

And you are antisemitic.

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You just said and I quote:
"And maybe the Chicoms have the right idea: put them in camps so they can't add to the total of 186,000 innocent civilians murdered by Muslims since 9/11."
You just said your buddies, the Chinese Communists, may have the right idea by putting some Muslims in concentration camps because some other Muslims murdered people.

That's bigotry. Show we where I've ever said Jews should be hit with a wet noodle, let alone thrown in concentration camps.

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Platonic_Caveman said... You just said and I quote:
"And maybe the Chicoms have the right idea: put them in camps so they can't add to the total of 186,000 innocent civilians murdered by Muslims since 9/11."
You just said your buddies, the Chinese Communists, may have the right idea by putting some Muslims in concentration camps because some other Muslims murdered people.

That's bigotry. Show we where I've ever said Jews should be hit with a wet noodle, let alone thrown in concentration camps.
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I said "maybe". And can't you tell sarcasm when you hear it? Jeez!

I'm tired of debating this. I say you're antisemitic, but just won't admit it. You say you're not. Let's just agree to disagree and move on.

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MovieManCin2 said... I said "maybe". And can't you tell sarcasm when you hear it? Jeez!

I'm tired of debating this. I say you're antisemitic, but just won't admit it. You say you're not. Let's just agree to disagree and move on.

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Uhuh, all you've done is scream "anti-Semite" which has nothing to do with anything. You haven't debated anything. I stand with the Uighurs and against Chinese oppression.

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Platonic_Caveman said... Uhuh, all you've done is scream "anti-Semite" which has nothing to do with anything. You haven't debated anything. I stand with the Uighurs and against Chinese oppression.
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So you're not gonna drop this pointless, time consuming debate, eh? Okay, I can continue as long as you want. I'm retired, so I have lots of time to devote to the debate.

I'm just telling the truth as I see it. You're antisemitic, but are too stubborn to admit it. And I'm not screaming. You were a little while back though, even though you tried to back peddle out of it.

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MovieManCin2 said... So you're not gonna drop this pointless, time consuming debate, eh? Okay, I can continue as long as you want. I'm retired, so I have lots of time to devote to the debate.

I'm just telling the truth as I see it. You're antisemitic, but are too stubborn to admit it. And I'm not screaming. You were a little while back though, even though you tried to back peddle out of it.

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I found out earlier that if he gets the last word he declares victory, so just just keep that in mind.

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Yermom_Is_God said... I found out earlier that if he gets the last word he declares victory, so just just keep that in mind.
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I know that, since we've had debates like this before, and he has always capitulated in the end.





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PS But this will probably light a fire under him.

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Yermom_Is_God said... I found out earlier that if he gets the last word he declares victory, so just just keep that in mind.
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I think he's just thrown in the towel. He gave me the old, "I'll respond to you when you have something to say." line. I outlasted him, and thus claimed victory!

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PS I even gave him a chance to walk away with dignity by agreeing to disagree, but he turned me down on that.

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MovieManCin2 said... So you're not gonna drop this pointless, time consuming debate, eh? Okay, I can continue as long as you want. I'm retired, so I have lots of time to devote to the debate.

I'm just telling the truth as I see it. You're antisemitic, but are too stubborn to admit it. And I'm not screaming. You were a little while back though, even though you tried to back peddle out of it.

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You confuse anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism.

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Platonic_Caveman said... You confuse anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism.
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You're both. Zionism is just a concept dreamed up by antisemitics like you.

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MovieManCin2 said... You're both. Zionism is just a concept dreamed up by antisemitics like you.

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Lol, I got news for you from my political activities when I was in college. The most strident anti-Zionists on the left are Jews. And on the right Orthodox Jews were traditionally opposed to Zionism. This is what I've tried to explain to you. I've been around Jews since I was in elementary school. It's not black and white like you think.

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Platonic_Caveman said... Lol, I got news for you from my political activities when I was in college. The most strident anti-Zionists on the left are Jews. And on the right Orthodox Jews were traditionally opposed to Zionism. This is what I've tried to explain to you. I've been around Jews since I was in elementary school. It's not black and white like you think.
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You're antisemitic. You reek of it. Okay, now it's your turn.

You are one stubborn person, and obviously HAVE to have the last word. Bad news: you're NOT gonna get it. I can continue this stupidity as long as you want.

Check out how many posts WY and I have done in our jokes thread (currently 628). Are you prepared to go the distance?

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MovieManCin2 said... You're antisemitic. You reek of it. Okay, now it's your turn.

You are one stubborn person, and obviously HAVE to have the last word. Bad news: you're NOT gonna get it. I can continue this stupidity as long as you want.

Check out how many posts WY and I have done in our jokes thread (currently 628). Are you prepared to go the distance?

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Uhuh, prove I'm anti-Semitic. I do know you support Communist Chinese oppression of Muslim Uighurs. You can rant with your paranoia all night.

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Platonic_Caveman said... Uhuh, prove I'm anti-Semitic. I do know you support Communist Chinese oppression of Muslim Uighurs. You can rant with your paranoia all night.
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You're antisemitic. If you weren't, you wouldn't be so highly incensed by the mere accusation. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

The ball is back in your court. I'm guessing we have about 600 posts to go. And I have news for you: I can rant for WAY longer than just all night. WY and I have been doing our jokes thread for weeks now.

I'll have to go night night soon, but I'll get back to your next lame response later.

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PS Are you having as much fun as I am? Probably not, cause you sound really grumpy.

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MovieManCin2 said... You're antisemitic. If you weren't, you wouldn't be so highly incensed by the mere accusation. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

The ball is back in your court. I'm guessing we have about 600 posts to go. And I have news for you: I can rant for WAY longer than just all night. WY and I have been doing our jokes thread for weeks now.

I'll have to go night night soon, but I'll get back to your next lame response later.

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PS Are you having as much fun as I am? Probably not, cause you sound really grumpy.
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You're just name calling. When you have something of substance to say, I'll respond to you.

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Platonic_Caveman said... You're just name calling. When you have something of substance to say, I'll respond to you.
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No, not name calling. Just telling you what you are imho.

So you concede defeat, eh? Excellent! I win, and we didn't even have to do 600 posts. Very wise of you, PC!


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No. Bigotry is an active negative. Simply not caring is a neutral negative. It is not bigotry. It is apathy. Now the argument could be made that apathy is in fact a greater evil but the two are definitely not the same.

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Thank you, Bro SV!

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He has told me he doesn't care because the Uigurs are Muslim. That's bigotry.

If someone said they do not care about the Holocaust and Nazi death camps because it was last century, that is still anti-Semitic.

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And yet again you haven't addressed any of my points. eyes.gif

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Except where I addressed it directly.

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I don't really think that it is apartheid but lets assume that you are right and that it is. I would still fully support it because there is a great difference between people who want to be a part of your society but are separated by reason of race alone & a people who are separated because they not only don't want to be a part of your society but also want to burn it down and scatter the ashes. You can't live under the same roof with someone who hates you. Ask any couple who has ever gone through a contentious divorce.

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We have to go back to the founding of Israel in the 1940's to see who created the ethnic and religious tension. I lay the blame on the United Nations. Israel was erroneously founded as a Jewish state with an ancient mandate from the Torah. No effort was made to make a democratic state where Jews and Arabs had equal rights. The rights of the many Christian Arabs in the Holy Land were chucked aside as well.

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You aren't going back far enough. Check the Balfour Treaty. The land in question was part of the British empire. The British gave 98% of the land in question to the arab tribes. They set apart just 2% for the Jewish people because it IS their ancestoral homeland. This is NOT an error. Nor were the Jewish people under any obligation to create a democracy with equal rights. Though I must say they have done a pretty good job given the fact that they are the only functioning democracy in the middle east. I sense that this may not be the first time you've complained about;

No effort was made to make a democratic state where Jews and Arabs had equal rights. The rights of the many Christian Arabs in the Holy Land were chucked aside as well.

But have you taken proportional time to complain about the other 98% of the Balfour states and their own treatment of religious and ethnic minorities?

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The problem is that 200 years ago there were almost no Jews in the Holy Land. European Jews immigrated there in the 20th century. It would be fine if the British had accommodated the new Jewish immigrants with the existing Arab population. But no, they created an expressly "Jewish" state, ignoring the Palestinians Arabs who had lived there for almost two thousand years.

When you only say 2% of the land was given to Jews, you're talking about all the British colonies, not just Palestine.

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you're talking about all the British colonies, not just Palestine.

No. I'm talking about all of the lands that were previously part of the Ottoman Empire which was broken up after WWI by the Balfour treaty. The Arabs got 98% of that.

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I understand your point, but what happened in Arab Irag or Arab Egypt are not relevant to Palestinians in refugee camps. Turks got part of that 98% too. smile.gif

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He's like a Jewish male Anne Coulter. Lol. He's an entertaining troll. And I agree with him 100% on transgender. But he's wrong most the time.

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No he is not a troll. A troll just stirs the pot to rile people up. He merely comments on current events. What sets him apart is his command of the facts and his ability to recall & cite sources to back his points. He is also an amazing public speaker. The man is a modern day Daniel Webster.

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