Victor Mature : Why did Mature really quit acting?
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Fischer is a total lunatic and he's quoting the National Enquirier as his source for God's sake! Mature s1c84emi-retired in the early 1960s for two reasons, one, as he stated, to spend time with his family, and two, unstated but obvious, his leading role offers dwindled and while Mature may not have been much of an actor, he was not going back to second teir roles in B and C movies. Fischer is just pissed that his career went down the toliet and instead of pointing that razor sharpe intellect of his inwards and recognizing that it has been his own studpid-ass decisions and mental instability that is the cause for his career going down the crapper. Better to "Blame the Jews" then accept responsibility for your own bad decisions.
There is only one god in Hollywood, Money. If you can rake it in, your in, if you can't rake it in, you're out. Mature's money-making movie career was effectively over by the early 1960s. Bible epics and sword and sandle epics were out and at 45 in 1960, Mature was too old for the "don't trust anyone over 30 crowd" that would comprise the emerging movie audience demographic in the 1960s. Mature was smart enough to cut his losses and go out on top. Something Fischer should've done himself. Who would have thought Mature would turn out to be smarter than Bobby Fischer?
There is only one god in Hollywood, Money. If you can rake it in, your in, if you can't rake it in, you're out. Mature's money-making movie career was effectively over by the early 1960s. Bible epics and sword and sandle epics were out and at 45 in 1960, Mature was too old for the "don't trust anyone over 30 crowd" that would comprise the emerging movie audience demographic in the 1960s. Mature was smart enough to cut his losses and go out on top. Something Fischer should've done himself. Who would have thought Mature would turn out to be smarter than Bobby Fischer?
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Hmm, hope you feel better now you've torn down the strawman you just erected. D'oh, it was a (long) quote by Fischer - I don't see Playa's opinion of Jews there.
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Exactly. Fischer, who just died, renounced his American citizenship and settled in Iceland of all places. You're right that the God of Hollywood is Mammon, the God of Money. Oh sure they make a few arty pictures and message movies to satisfy their pseudo-intellectual pretensions and push their pet causes, but they are a drop in the bucket compared to all the horrid commercial trash they make.
Victor Mature just got old and his career "died out," just like many other actors. There just aren't that many good roles for old people. The average moviegoer is 13-24, and they're not interested in the lives of older people. By the way, I'm 58 and I don't blame them. Victor Mature had his day, made his money, and moved on. Acting didn't define his entire life - he did. God bless him.
Victor Mature just got old and his career "died out," just like many other actors. There just aren't that many good roles for old people. The average moviegoer is 13-24, and they're not interested in the lives of older people. By the way, I'm 58 and I don't blame them. Victor Mature had his day, made his money, and moved on. Acting didn't define his entire life - he did. God bless him.
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>>> settled in Iceland of 16d0all places
You write that as if it were a random, bizarre, arbitrary inexplicable choice. It was not. Iceland was grateful to Fischer for putting them on the map in 1972, and in reciprocity, they extended to him an offer of citizenship in his hour of need, which he, naturally, accepted.
It should be against the law to use "LOL" unless you really did LOL!
You write that as if it were a random, bizarre, arbitrary inexplicable choice. It was not. Iceland was grateful to Fischer for putting them on the map in 1972, and in reciprocity, they extended to him an offer of citizenship in his hour of need, which he, naturally, accepted.
It should be against the law to use "LOL" unless you really did LOL!
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Fischer was a bizarre individual known for random and inexplicable arbitrary behavior. Iceland was already on the map and has never been much interested in calling attention to itself. To settle in such an isolated, albeit beautiful and prosperous country like Iceland was weird even for him. He had to be really desperate.
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My uncle had the misfortune to spend two years in Iceland, 1940 to 1942 - posted there by the army. It's the most boring place he's been to, before or since, the availability of alcohol was strictly rationed and the locals were aloof, curt and unfriendly. The most exciting thing that happened to him in two years was that he accidentally set a barrack room bed on fire.
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They were the same way with the American Marines stationed there. Like most neutrals they wanted to pretend the war didn't exist while selling to both sides.
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My uncle and his division were relieved by the US Marine Corps in 1942 and returned to Britain on the same ship that had brought the marines over. He enjoyed his time on board ship far more than he ever did in Iceland.
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A bunch of American bachelors went to Iceland a few years ago and had a great time until they stupidly admitted to the Icelandic press they were there for the blondes. Apparently Scandinavian women don't like honest men. They enjoy fooling around, but they don't like it shoved in their faces.
That was probably why Mature was so unsuccessful in marriage. He liked to fool around too much and he was stupid enough to admit it. He settled down with his last wife because he was too old to chase young girls.
That was probably why Mature was so unsuccessful in marriage. He liked to fool around too much and he was stupid enough to admit it. He settled down with his last wife because he was too old to chase young girls.
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Be my guest. What I said was true. Those guys were having a fine old time until they publicly revealed their motives. Then they became pariahs. As for Mature, he was a rounder and that is why his many marriages failed.
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Naturally? He had never shown any interest in the country prior to that. He could have gone to any one of a number of countries, larger and more diverse in culture and experiences. He wasn't that needy. He was mentally ill.
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see Journey To The Center Of The Earth.
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I already have.
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Ironic that when Victor Mature had made it in Hollywood it was infinitely more Jewish than it was when he left. The studio system had all been razed to the ground, the Golden Age was truly over. As far as Victor Mature was concerned he was NEVER an "A" list star. Yes, he starred in a few major films but two or three does not an A-list star make.
Regarding Bobby Fischer just a brilliant Chess player and a big loser in the game of life, ironic that his accusation of the Jews is filled with a great deal of self hatred as BOTH his parents were Jewish. He was never a happy person, and if you know his life and his parents obsessions it is no wonder.
Regarding Bobby Fischer just a brilliant Chess player and a big loser in the game of life, ironic that his accusation of the Jews is filled with a great deal of self hatred as BOTH his parents were Jewish. He was never a happy person, and if you know his life and his parents obsessions it is no wonder.
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All true. However, in fairness, Mature knew he was not an "A" list actor and really didn't care. To quote the late Richard Burton, who acted with him in "The Robe," he was "comfortable in his limitations,"which he freely admitted. It was a big reason I liked him. Unlike many actors, he never took himself to seriously.
Remember what he told the country club he applied to that told him they didn't take applications from actors:
"I'm no actor and I've got 56 pictures to prove it."
Remember what he told the country club he applied to that told him they didn't take applications from actors:
"I'm no actor and I've got 56 pictures to prove it."
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What ever his reason or reasons why he gave up Hollywood was his own doing. Let him rest in peace..
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Victor Mature never took his career too seriously. He once said, "I'm not an actor and I've got 56 pictures to prove it."
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The National Enquierer? Are you f*&^$% nuts!! Blow your brains out, you're a worthless piece of human debris!
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Victor Mature just got old and his career "died out," just like many other actors. There just aren't that many good roles for old people. The average moviegoer is 13-24, and they're not interested in the lives of older people. By the way, I'm 58 and I don't blame them. Victor Mature had his day, made his money, and moved on. Acting didn't define his entire life - he did. God bless him.
That sounds about right.
That sounds about right.
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Playa you should broaden your horizon and read more sources than the one you got this quote from.
Its the easiest thing in the world just to blame Jews or someone for your troubles. Its simple, stupid and a cop-out.
Bobby Fisher and all of us should realize that our troubles are more complex, and that most of us bring our own individual troubles upon ourself most of the time.
Good luck in your future reading.
Its the easiest thing in the world just to blame Jews or someone for your troubles. Its simple, stupid and a cop-out.
Bobby Fisher and all of us should realize that our troubles are more complex, and that most of us bring our own individual troubles upon ourself most of the time.
Good luck in your future reading.
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To play golf and enjoy his life.
He always had a side business while he was an actor. Acting gave him money to invest in his businesses. He also enjoyed golf. He gave Fox as well as other producers a good 20+ years of his life in acting. No drama behind the scenes, easy to work with, got along with all cast and crew. He knew when to hang it up and only returned to the big screen if the price was right. Do you blame him? Not everyone wants to act into their grave or play the "grandma". Fans of his like myself may have wished he acted up until his death in 1999, but we know there was nothing suspicious or juicy in his retirement.
He always had a side business while he was an actor. Acting gave him money to invest in his businesses. He also enjoyed golf. He gave Fox as well as other producers a good 20+ years of his life in acting. No drama behind the scenes, easy to work with, got along with all cast and crew. He knew when to hang it up and only returned to the big screen if the price was right. Do you blame him? Not everyone wants to act into their grave or play the "grandma". Fans of his like myself may have wished he acted up until his death in 1999, but we know there was nothing suspicious or juicy in his retirement.
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I don't know if the early end of his career had anything to do with Jews, but I did read somewhere that he was a Republican and we all know how much the left wing jerkoffs in Hollywood hate anybody who's politically anywhere to the right of Stalin. So it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they had blackballed him, not because of his religion but because of his politics.
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He retired to Rancho Sante Fe, in Calif. He lived there and played golf and was a congenial fellow. My grandfather, who was a lifelong Democrat and lived there too, said there was not a nasty bone in Mature's body. Your idea of what he was like or whom he had it in for, is absolute rubbish.
Let it be unsaid: insignificance is the locus of true increpation.
Let it be unsaid: insignificance is the locus of true increpation.
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I like that. How cool that your grandfather knew Victor. And I've always gotten the feeling that he didn't really care about politics that much, atleast not enough to make it a defining factor in terms of who he would be friends with. What I mean is that he probably didn't choose his friends based on political affiliation.
"WHY DIDN'T YOU STARVE FIRST?!" - Humphrey Bogart, 'Dead End' (1937)
"WHY DIDN'T YOU STARVE FIRST?!" - Humphrey Bogart, 'Dead End' (1937)
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I agree. I'm a conservative Republican and I know he quit acting because he just wanted to take it easy, run his businesses, and play golf. Politics and religion had nothing to do with it, and he never said they did. His career had reached its natural end, and he didn't care. He just did a couple roles in his later years for fun and some extra money. In "After the Fox" with Peter Sellers, he hilariously made fun of himself. He was a womanizer and unsuccessful in marriage, but that's par for the course in Hollywood.
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Sword and Sandle legendary actor victor mature appears to Correct in his black-balling assessment of that sector of mankind that 'now controls 65% -85' of todays Richest Corporations, 'Disney Studios' included. Even one of Our Generations Actors in the Victor Mature 'mold', Mel Gibson, another Great "sword epic" actor, has stated or Yelled while being arrested that the Jewish hollywood forces black-balled him out of Hollywood following his global Financial and Critical success of the film 'the Passion of Christ' where in that film..the Jewish High Priests were depicted as the initial persecutors of Christ along with the pagan Romans. Such 'calling out' had never been so direct in previous Christ epics like 'the King of Kings' etc. Almost overnight Mel Gibson could no longer get future film financing for subsequent projects, in fact his 'Apocolypto' mayan/Aztec film was financed for the most part with MELS' own money.say it aint So. However, the 'controlled' media simply blame it on Mel's drinking and failed 2nd Marriage however, recall he the only actor who appeared at Brittany Spears defense when she was undergoing substance abuse and bad-Mommy issues prior to getting her life straightened out.
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Actually, Gibson was quite fair in that film. He showed two of the Jewish priests opposing the "trial" Christ was given and many Jews opposing and protesting his arrest, trial, and crucifixion. But what he said to that police officer, even if the officer was Jewish, was inexcusable. He was driving drunk, and that is a serious crime. He could have killed someone, and the Jewish people had nothing to do with that.
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Mature quit acting because he wanted to retire. His desire was to "loaf." Mature had a great sense of humor and never took himself seriously.
And yet, I never caught him giving off that vibe on screen. He was a professional and a better actor than given credit for.
And yet, I never caught him giving off that vibe on screen. He was a professional and a better actor than given credit for.
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I don't know if the early end of his career had anything to do with Jews, but I did read somewhere that he was a Republican and we all know how much the left wing jerkoffs in Hollywood hate anybody who's politically anywhere to the right of Stalin. So it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they had blackballed him, not because of his religion but because of his politics.
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You're kidding!
Why would Hollywood blackball Victor Mature, but not Barbara Stanwyck, James Stewart, John Wayne, Ginger Rogers, Joel McCrea, Bing Crosby or Bob Hope? You've decided to play the role of a Republican who claims he is a victim!
Why do Republicans pretend that they are immune from blackballing people? They've been doing it for years! That's what POLITICIANS do! It's not a case of "this side is worse than the other!" Republicans are trying to cancel people who don't agree with them as much as the other side is.
Victor Mature always said that he wanted to retire when he made enough money and that's what he did!
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You're kidding!
Why would Hollywood blackball Victor Mature, but not Barbara Stanwyck, James Stewart, John Wayne, Ginger Rogers, Joel McCrea, Bing Crosby or Bob Hope? You've decided to play the role of a Republican who claims he is a victim!
Why do Republicans pretend that they are immune from blackballing people? They've been doing it for years! That's what POLITICIANS do! It's not a case of "this side is worse than the other!" Republicans are trying to cancel people who don't agree with them as much as the other side is.
Victor Mature always said that he wanted to retire when he made enough money and that's what he did!
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That sense of humour was well on display in "Head" with the Monkees. He did well in a weird role in a weird movie.
Why did Mature really quit acting?
"This is a common trick of the Jews, to blacklist their enemies and then to pretend they haven't. Now, I'll just give you a recent example that came to my mind. If you remember the great movie actor Victor Mature, he died a few months ago, remember him? Very handsome actor, he was in Samson and Delilah movies, and a lot of other movies, remember him? He oozed sex appeal out of all his pores, that sweaty look. Very handsome guy, I dont think he was a Jew. Anyway, he died a few month ago, and every singler report that I heard on the BBC, that I read in the paper, all were saying the same thing: That after I think it was the late 60's, early 70's, he retired from acting and he just went down to the San Diego area to play golf and to watch over his investments. So, they all made it sound like he voluntarily retired from being an actor for like the last 20-25 years of his life. But I remember an article, I believe it was in the National Enquirer or one of those type newspapers where he blasted Hollywood, he said 'They blackballed me out of Hollywood, they won't give my any more roles.', and so on. He was furious. So, this is the Jewish way. They blacklist you out of chess, out of acting, out of whatever your chosen profession is, and then they say: 'Oh, it's a pity Victor Mature didn't want to act anymore', or 'Bobby Fischer didn't want to play chess anymore, it's a shame.' This is their style. Now, I've got a long memory. If anybody out there doesn't believe me, do a little research. Check out, on Mr Mature. I remember this specifically. I remember it very clearly, he gave an interview, he was already down there in the San Diego area. Just absolutely blasted Hollywood. So, this is their technique."