The Host : It's a pity the humans…

didn't come up with the idea of wearing alien-looking contact lenses instead of building an underground cave city. That would've saved them a lot of trouble and since it wouldn't have been much of a story then, it would probably have saved me from the two hours it took to sit through the movie.

It's a pity you don't realize alien were able to recognize each other by some kind of telepathical connection. The eyes thingie was just a side effect of invading human bodies. For sure other species didn't have that.

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Or am I falling into the same trap?

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We both have ;) But, apart from that.. do you really expect every single species they "take" (and it looks like they have conquered quite a lot) to have a pair of eyes like ours? :) Or to have eyes at all? I repeat: apart from the trolling OP.

No, I'm not a troll. At least not in the sense that I am deliberately trying to twist some facts or post a stupid question that I obviously should know the answer to just for the chance of being obnoxious or to bash the fans of the movie. I have a number of complaints regarding the plot of this movie (which of course could be a result of a bad book-to-film transition since I haven't read the book), but I realized while making the thread that the question in my first post actually rendered the other issues pointless.

Of course I didn't mean the humans should have started producing contact lenses AFTER the world had gone to hell and after they had built their underground cave-city. My proposal is that they should have done it when they first realized that aliens had started taking over peoples bodies. Before humankind lost control over their society, factories, governments and so on. I don't remember the movie ever stating that the takeover was instantaneous or "happened in a few hours" or something like that. IF the movie actually mentioned something like that and I simply missed it, then, of course, my question is invalid.

Something the movie doesn't do well is explain enough about the invasion, you do have a point there. In the book, it's not like Independence day. They snuck in here and there; picking out people who would see a degree of foot traffic. One of the hosts in the book was a college professor or something like that. He and his wife would entertain guests who would leave as 'souls', stuff like that.

People only started noticing after all the news suddenly became too 'nice'. Drug addicts and molester types all queuing up for treatment, etc. Though the invasion was subtle; by the time enough people started noticing, they'd already taken the planet.

Another thing the film kinds messes up is Melanie. She's in her mid teens when the invasion is about to become noticeable and when she's captured by the souls, several years have passed and she's actually twenty. (I guess the movie people wanted another Twilight, so they kept the teen angle going???)

Also in the book, the souls don't have silver eyes; they just reflect bright silver when you shine a light in them. (I guess that wasn't something they could do too well on film.)


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I see. So I guess the bad reaction I received from the posters above originates in them being well educated in the mythos of the books. If I had known the information you just provided and then read a topic like mine I would probably also rise a "troll flag". The problem is that the movie doesn't give that information, at all. And one shouldn't be required to have read the book a movie is based on to know that certain flaws or plot holes in the movie actually isn't "holes" in the lore per se, but only holes if the film is watched as a standalone creation.

This is, of course, a common thing amongst movies based on books. And I understand that a movie can't be as fleshed out as, or give as much information as a book. It still saddens me every time scriptwriters don't treat the source material with more respect than that it end up as a movie that seems too have a sloppy storyline or being ridden with holes in the plot.

Thank you for your explanation, and for answering politely by the way! :)

Why would criminals need to turn themselves in or ask for treatment? After a soul had taken over, none of the human's past life should be relevent.

To be clear, I'm not being argumentative, just trying to understand.

I have no idea, but it's mentioned in the book, that people lined up to atone or whatever. Maybe the souls inside felt they couldn't completely overwrite the hosts 'urges' and sought to contain them?

I'm not sure the prior life experiences were entirely irrelevant to the souls who took the bodies; since many of the ones in the book have adopted characteristics of their hosts. Ie, keeping their names; remaining with families, continuing pursuits their hosts enjoyed, etc.

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Well, one good Reason for a drugAddict is that it's a CHemical Dependancy that affect syopu in a Physical way. If the Soul takes over the Human Body that's addicted ot Heroine,that addiction still exists in the Humans body.


Another good reason is that those support groups allow for a good deal of contact with others who can become Souls.

Was it implied that aliens could sense their kind by some "telepathical connection" NO! Did you miss the part in the end where a group of humans (accompanied by Wanda) were stopped by seekers and they couldn't confirm they were humans until they removed their shades? Are you saying they deliberately pulled off that little stunt knowing they weren't humans? That doesn't make sense.

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Was it implied that aliens could sense their kind by some "telepathical connection" NO! Did you miss the part in the end where a group of humans (accompanied by Wanda) were stopped by seekers and they couldn't confirm they were humans until they removed their shades?

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I don't remember any indication in the movie that the aliens could sense their own kind by some telepathy connection, so I don't necessarily agree with the other poster. However, the fact that the seeker from the second group demanded the humans from Wanda's group to take off their sunglasses so that the second group of humans could see for themselves that they were indeed humans, doesn't imply that such a telepathy connection between aliens doesn't exist.

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Are you saying they deliberately pulled off that little stunt knowing they weren't humans? That doesn't make sense.

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Sorry, I don't understand. What little stunt, and who weren't humans? They were all humans, except for Wanda and the one seeker who made them take off their sunglasses.

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didn't come up with the idea of wearing alien-looking contact lenses

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Judged from the movie, whacking on your sunglasses suffices to "fool the Souls".

Stephenie Meyer can't write a story without eye color being significant to the story. I wasn't sure it was a repeatable concept.

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