Vladimir Putin : Fascist Russian regime

The attack on Georgia shows the true nature of the russian regime! Damn them!

I'm a Republican, and thats my opinion on this matter.

Excuse me, but everything you heard about is a lie.
It is Georgia that started the agression towards Southern Ossetia, bombed Tskhinvali, and the result was hundreds of dead civilians and 10 russian Blue helmets. After that Russia sent its troups to support Ossetia (most of which citizens are also russian citizens as well), and the blue helmets. That's about it.

But I'm okay with your reaction, because all the information YOU heard (that the Russians attacked Georgia) is bullsh..t, but it's not your fault.
You go and ask the Southern Ossetia citizens and the Georgian citizens who is their enemy - Russia or the president of Georgia?
They'll all tell you that they hate the Georgian president.
This man is stupid, he is coward. He set up Russia, as well as The United States. Michail Saakashvili is a criminal that should be hanged. So if you want to damn someone, damn him - not us!

P.S.: Don't believe all the sh..t you hear from McCaine. I respect this man for his past in the war, but he doesn't know a sh..t about my country, while he sais he knows everything. Be smart.

Putin is an ex KGB agent and he wants the Soviet Union back.

No one wants the fu...ng Soviet Union back.
One of my family members was killed by KGB (NKWD) - it happened 1942. Those f...ckers burned him alive.

The Soviet regime was evil - no one says it wasn't.
The KGB did lots of horrible things - no one says it didn't.
But not all the KGB-people were villains, as well as not all the CIA-people were (are) good.

I don't like Putin as a person, but he is a good leader, and everything he did while he was president was right.

I like the americans, but your tragedy is - it's nobody there 5b4 to tell you the truth.

Here is the essens of the conflict. During the time of the USSR the russians moved
ethnic russians to their satelite republics like Georgia. These people lived high and mighty while the Moscow was in control, cause this was the russian version of lebensraum. Then the USSR ended in 1991, then the new nations couldn't kick these people eventhough they weren't citizens of the new countries and weren't russians citizens eithe.

Naturally these people became subject of hatred, cause they didn't want to contribute to the new nations, didn't want to learn to the language, only spoke russian!

So the Russia must accept responsebility for these people, and allow them to move to Russia!

Whats next then? A russian attack on the Western Ukraine? There is hudge group of ethnic russians there too?

Or what about Baltic countries? There etnic russians there, and they are causing trouble!

/Fred


I'm a Republican, and thats my opinion on this matter.

You're not a republican - you're a facist.

Everything you say is bullsh..t.

You should talk to the Ossetians that has been there, while Georgians killed

their family-members. But of course, you don't care, so I wan't try to write

the true version of history for a pig's face.

We protected OUR CITIZENS in Ossetia. Georgian soldiers started to kill them

like the facists they are. They entered the city, shot innocent people, cut

their throats, burned them alive! They were OUR CITIZENS, and they KILLED THEM!

We made a choice for DEMOCRACY, but it seems like the world starts to forget

the sense of this word. But there is still one thing you shouldn't forget - WE

NEVER BEEN A COUNTRY TO F..CK WITH. WE defeated Napoleon and WE defeated Hitler.



I'm very sorry if another crizis in our relationships breaks out, because I

like americans, and I have lots of friends in the States...

Again, I'm very sorry if your great country doesn't LIKE us any more, but I can

live with that. You may not LIKE us, but I promise you - YOU WILL RESPECT US.

agreed,

Damn them.

I'm a Republican, and thats my opinion on this matter.

I won't damm you, because I don't hate YOUR family and YOUR children.

But I know, you hate me, like you hate every alternate democracy, that doesn't

want to suck US-c..cks.


Once more: It is your business wether you want to remain friends with Russia or

not. There is more than enough smart people in USA who wan't ever trust CNN,

NBC or BBC, people who know the truth, and they are always welcome in our

country.


God is with Russia, you better remember that. I know, you hate me, because you

think I am your enemy. But I'll pray for you and your family.

You're not bad and I know that. Your may be brainwashed, but you're still a

nice guy.

Take care of youself.

No. It's horrible. But do you really believe it'll be different with you somewhere else, if you stand in some top-guys way? I don't think so. Pal, you are in a world where only the money counts. It's the only thing that gives you human rights and stuff. Guys like Putin, or Bush, or someone else never tell you the whole truth. But don't you know that when you go voting? Of course you do. But you go and vote, having no further options.

America is a great country - it's very young, beautiful... It has its own style, and its own way of life. Most of your people are really nice - no one denies it, because it's a fact. But exactly that lets guys like McCaine or Obama or Bush or somebody else pushing on that weak spot of yours - your good feelings - to tell you differend kind of lies. You're very naive to believe them, and the TV-channels they control.

I hate all the politicians - they all look like the same person. Different face, different languages, different interests... But did you never noticed that it is atually always the same guy?
And the way he manages to make guys like you and me hate each other, makes me believe, it's a hoof that I'll see when he takes off his shoe.

Very true. I can only hope to see a time when the World accepts the same priorities.

By all respect:

1.) the Georgians attacked first, at night, and killed over 1000 citizens of Ossetia, and 10 russian peacekeepers who protected them. A very strange way to protect somebody.

2.)How many people live in USA, being also a citizen of another country?
By the way, the became russian citizens already being the citizens of Ossetia.
Wouldn't USA protect its citizens from a genocide, no matter where it would happen?

3.) These people live on their own land. Historically Ossetia has NOTHING to do with Georgia. It became part of Georgia for a long time when the communists came to authority in Russia, being just a couple of years a part of Georgia before it happened. And that's why the Ossetians want be separate from Georgia. Do you want to support communists?

Ossetians want to be on their own, and that is their LEGAL right, BUT, it doesn't fit the interests of the United States, because they don't need Georgia without Ossetia (and Abhazia), because it is the only way to the Black Sea.

And here comes the funny moment: that's the reason why Saakashvili actually started this company... That is also the reason why all the mass-media in USA and Great Britain supported Georgia.

Sorry, guys. I know, you have nothing to do with this whole cr.p, but the true agressor is actually the president of your country, and the government of the United States. Amerika gave Saakashvili the money, it trained his soldiers. It gave the weapons...
Your government supported this butchery, because of the national interests of the United States.

And that hurts. You know why? Not only because 1600 civilians were slaughtered by georgian troups, and not because 74 of russian soldiers were killed, and not only because innocent georgian civilians also became victims of this conflict...

It hurts because America believes the sh..t it gets from the CNN news.
It hurts, because your country doesn't want to be friendly any more.
It hurts, because it is a Dead End for everything we reached in our relationship since USSR.

Don't you see it is a new Cold War? It has already began, but this time it is not communism, but the financional interests of the top-guys.
Are you really THAT BLIND? Or don't you see that a great country like Russia (because it is great, whether you like it or not)that doesn't want to be f...cked (because that is exactly what your government is trying to do) can still be a good friend and partner?
But no, your leaders just want it all. They want You to remain the GOLDEN BILLION, and want the whole world to be f..cked. Is that okay? Would that be okay if someone would try the same towards Amerika? All this people in Ossetia and Georgia could be alive, and they WERE alive two weeks ago. They were just regular people like all of you! Each one of them loved someone, had a family! BUT last week they were 5b4 SLAUGHTERED for YOUR money AND for the TAXES YOU PAY, because the guys YOU let rule YOUR country decided it is YOUR NATIONAL INTEREST!!!


Ah, what the hell... You don't give a sh..t anyway.

Wow, as an American Citizen I’m ashamed that the majority of my fellow citizens cannot see the truth in this matter. Most people believe anything the TV tells them to. It is really crazy

act78 you speak the truth it was the Georgians that started it and the Russians that Finished it…As you said I don’t have to like you guys but I DO respect the hell out of your country and your leader. Putin amazes the **** out of me he seems to be one hell of a leader. The US needs a Putin right now IMO

Good Job

Thanks, syphir420...

I still hope most of you guys to like us...

:)

Sorry about Poland act78

Don't be. If it comes to real business I'll shoot myself anyway. It's better than watching good people killing each other, thinking that the opposite side is bad.

Ants-Ants... You're a good person - I can see that.

In some points you are ABSOLUTELY right. And it is not every action of my country's government that I support. But do me a favor - watch this thread:


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1269884/board/thread/114991022?d=114991022&p=1#114991022

It's about Georgia. There is a link to a youtube file. Please, take a look at it. Just watch it. And then tell me, what you think about it.

But you have no problem with germans, right, Sunshine? You still prefer to drive a "Mercedes". Or, why don't you throw your "Sony"-TV out of the window? Japan supported Hitler in WW-2.
We haven't learned democracy from you to keep excusing us for the mistakes our country made in the past. You don't want to listen about America's racism in the 1940-s, 50-s, 60-s, do you?

The differense between Hitler and Stalin was - Hitler commited his crimes against other nations - Stalin did the same with his own people.
If Saakashvili thought Ossetia was part of Georgia, he should keep talking to them. He should make them WANT to be a part of Georgia. But he prefered to kill them all (to kill the people he called citizens of Georgia) like Stalin did. The reason is - he wanted only their land, to control it.


Again - watch this thread:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1269884/board/thread/114991022?d=114991022&p=1#114991022

1.) Man... Have I ever told you that Stalin was better than Hitler? I'd cut both those bastard's balls off! You're right about other nations - he did lots of harm to them. But Poland and Czech Republic (as well as Hungary and East Germany) were in the Soviet-Lager, while Russia, Georgia, latvia, lithuania and estonia were one single country. Stalin destroyed the people he (being a leader)had to take care of. That's why I'm saying that he destroyed his own people.

2.) The ossetians DIDN'T start the fire first. That was a lie from your TV-channels. Georgian troups attacked Ossetia on wednesday night. They attacked civilians. While they slept. And before Russian troups ever entered the town 1,5 thousand unarmed civilians (women, children, old people...) were killed by them. They weren't regular soldiers - they were hired cutthroats, who just came to do the job they were payed for.

3.) Russia NEVER provoked Georgia. Our government tried to organize a dialog with Saakashvili as long as they could. But hey - let's suppose they would really provoke him! It's politics, isn't it? If you play this game, you have to got some balls, and be adequate - not chewing around on your tie. So, what's the best idea of this guy - "F...ck the dialogs! I'll just go and kill all this people I call my citizens!"?


Look... It is natural that two different people from two different worlds (I don't know where you are from) have also some different points of view. But it makes none of us a bad guy. We are bouth goo 5b4 d, aren't we? And being a good person you can't justify a genocide. I'm a christian, so I can't do it no way.

Peace!

Jesus Christ, Sunshine! Let's remember the whole history of mankind! Call me one country that hasn't been an agressor towards someone! Stalin and Hitler were rats, and like rats they died. Do you want to blame me for Stalin's sins? Go ahead! Are you from USA? Then I'll blame you for killing the indians, for Japan, for Vietnam, and for stepping into the WW2 just at its very end... Let it go, and be happy. Life is a nice thing.

Peace, brother. God bless your family.

I wouldn't think so since it was the Russian citizens who were killed and persecuted during Stalin's reign.

I'm from America and have greater respect for Russia than I do here.

Guys... About Stalin: if I had a time-machine' I'd go to the past, and kill this bastard. I know, lots of people say he was a good leader, but they are wrong - he was a sick motherless f..ck, and he killed millions of innocent people. It is also his resposibility that Russia was absolutely unprepared to WW2. In lots of aspects Stalin was even worse than Hitler.
All that is past. It's not Hitler or Stalin you should worry about.
To be honest - right now I'm worried about the human race. I'm worried about how sick we are. Are we sick enough to start a real (not-so-cold) war? I hope we're not. But that's the way it looks like.

Why? This is only Georgia, you should know Russia had many conflicts in the 90's with Georgia as well and at one p 2000 oint prohibited any postage from getting into it. Plus, only a few nations have supported Russia in recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia as independent nations. Russia recognizes this and knows that the EU has been considering to impose sanctions on them as well as pressure from the United States. While I think its absurd the United States involve themselves in such conflicts, Russia does not want to provoke war. I know the United States is run by idiots, and despite their officious demands, I don't think they want to bear the expenses of another war as well. Now....If Russia runs into problems with the nations surrounding Georgia then you can begin discussing the possibilities of a cold war.

Tasgo, the cold war has started already. I mean, it is non-official jet, but it is already in run. Look around - everything the government of the United States does is trying to make my country weaker. Because the strong Russia doesn't suit their "national interests". Why they think so? I don't know. I have no idea. If McCaine wins, the cold war will become official. And I'm afraid that a caucasian viet-veteran has more chances to win, than a much more adequate and educated, but still an african-american muslim. I hope I'm wrong, but I just can't see a "friendly" future.

I hope you're right. To be honest, I'd be a lucky man if I could just stop thinking about all that, you know...
I hate politics!

Act78... I am an American citizen. I don't hate Russia or Vladimir Putin. To be quite honest I think Putin is an amazing leader, Russia has done very well under him as President and Prime Minister. He is certainly not someone I would want on my bad side, ex-KGB or not.

As far as the whole KGB thing goes I don't judge too harshly. We here in America have the CIA and I guarantee if we looked into the background of all our politicians something shady would come up. Hell, most of them have (Blogoevich, Larry Craig, etc.).

I honestly don't know the truth about what happened in Georgia, I would trust your word on the situation over most of our media in America. All of them lean so far to the right or left. None of them are balanced. I wish it weren't that way, because most of the time people believe everything they see on their T.V.

I just wanted to let you know that not all of America hates Russia. There are some of us here that think for themselves.


there's nothing more fun than an irritated grizzly bear.

I'm english and I don't hate russia, in fact I'm learning russian at the moment and would love to go there one day!

Wow... So much happened in the world since Euroman started this thread. Thanks for the nice words, guys. I know, I'll never meet you, but I'm happy that you exist.

No, I'm from Moscow. But I got Ossetian, as well as Georgian friends, and they all hate Saakashvili for what he did.