Posse : Commentary on the message of the movie ***SPOILERS***
Re: Commentary on the message of the movie ***SPOILERS***
Considering kirk douglas is and has always been a liberal democrat i have to disagree on your political perspective of this movie. Nightingale is a typical republican. He uses scaretactics for votes, abuses his powers to get his way no matter the cost to the people, and is in favor of big business( the railroad).
Stawhorn killed a man who ratted him out to nightingale. No honor amongst theives?
Killed a sheriff who was going to kill him. Was self defense. He gave him a way out.
Anyway i still disagree with your rightwing propaganda
Stawhorn killed a man who ratted him out to nightingale. No honor amongst theives?
Killed a sheriff who was going to kill him. Was self defense. He gave him a way out.
Anyway i still disagree with your rightwing propaganda
Commentary on the message of the movie ***SPOILERS***
Some critics mistake the films message as comparing a (supposedly) corrupt politician with a (supposedly) honest lawbreaker, but this is inaccurate. For one thing, honest lawbreaker is an oxymoron, particularly where Strawhorn (Dern) is concerned. Right out of the gate the movie plainly shows him to be a murderous thug and, while a smooth-talker, hes never made out to be the good guy. Hes a scumbag criminal worthy of hanging, impure and simple. Nor is Nightingale (Douglas) shown to be wickedly corrupt. Hes a commanding marshal of the territory, which is a good thing; he has political aspirations and ties to the railroad, so what? Even when tempted by the blond hottie, Mrs. Ross (Beth Brickell), he charmingly turns her down on the grounds that it wouldnt be advantageous to his political goals. Isnt that what wisdom is having the scruples to recognize and deny foolish, immoral or destructive desires/behaviors?
But Nightingale's deputies are a different story. The films called Posse for a reason.
I didnt find the deputies sudden shift to the life of outlawry to be believable. True, they would each have $6000, which would've taken three years for them to make doing honest work, but it wasnt like this was enough moolah to radically change their lives, not to mention theyd lose the prestige that came with being deputies; and the possibility of becoming marshals or sheriffs one day. No matter how you slice it this was an awkwardly implemented twist.
That said, there were signs that the posse were already bad (with the exception of one deputy who refused to betray Nightingale and turn to crime). For instance, at least three of them are shown secretly bedding some babes from the town in a conveniently available boxcar. These nubile ladies were obviously attracted to the bad boys, which just so happen to be upstanding deputies, members of the brave posse. What else is new?
So whats the movie saying? The line between respectable profession and outlawry can be very thin. People can be in an honest occupation and be corrupt; theyre essentially just masquerading. It happens everywhere all the time. It brings to mind 1961's "One-Eyed Jacks" and the relationship of Rio (Brando) and Dad Longworth (Karl Malden); they used to be bank robbing partners, but the latter ironically decides to become a sheriff in California. So Rio says to Longworth: "You may be a one-eyed jack around here, but I've seen the other side of your face."
One critic lambasted the film for it's "tortuous confusion of good and evil." Actually, the movie just sheds light on the existence of evil in places where people naively pull the wool over the eyes not to see it. Look no further than HiLIARy.
What about Nightingale? Was he shady or just his men? I personally dont think he was. He struck me as an ambitious marshal with political aspirations and he refused to even consider an illicit sexual liaison, as noted above (if it were Bill Clinton he woulda jumped on the occasion). Nevertheless, its not a good reflection on Nightingale's character that the majority of his men were corrupt, so maybe he was too, at least a little; and it would overtly manifest down the line in office.
Any movie that can spur such questions is a good one.
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