Dallas : Season by season: where DALLAS went wrong (and right) … SPOILERS!

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Interesting thoughts in this thread.

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Thanks! Feel free to add your own!


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Why do all my apostrophes keep disappearing??


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Re: DALLAS : what went wrong (and right) with this show, Part 3


Contrary to further revisionistic rumor, the ratings did not shoot up again after Bobby came back — at least, not after that first scene. People whod been watching the show for eight years, tuned out and never came back.
The ratings didn't shoot up again, but the decline was stemmed. Dallas had been declining for several years, and the ratings for 1986-87 represented the smallest year-over-year decline in several seasons.

1983-84: 25.7 rating
1984-85: 24.7 rating (4% decline) - Barbara Bel Geddes is absent
1985-86: 21.9 rating (11% decline) - Patrick Duffy is absent
1986-87: 21.3 rating (3% decline) - Patrick Duffy returns
1987-88: 16.8 rating (21% decline) - Victoria Principal gone

Also, the show was no longer ranking in the weekly top 10 during the latter half of the 85-86 (dream) season. The show began to regularly pop up in the weekly top 10 again during the fall of 1986 (ranking 11th overall for the season).

The truth isn't that ratings shot up with Bobby's return, or that masses tuned out, disgusted. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Interesting, though, that the dropoff was much worse for the 87-88 season.

Fun posts - thanks for putting them up.

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"The truth isn't that ratings shot up with Bobby's return, or that masses tuned out, disgusted. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Interesting, though, that the dropoff was much worse for the 87-88 season. "

I think what most people forget is that in the Fall 1986, NBC thought "Dallas" was on the decline. They moved the popular series, "Miami Vice" from the 10 p.m. time slot to the 9 p.m. time slot to compete head-to-head against "Dallas." Many thought "Miami Vice" would crush "Dallas" because "Dallas" was going into its 10th season, while "Miami Vice" was still relatively new (entering its 3rd season) and attracted younger viewers. However, "Dallas" regularly beat "Miami Vice", thanks in large part to Duffy's return and the buzz over "Pam's dream."

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Well, it could be argued that it wasn't because of Pam's Dream. The ratings didn't go up (except for that first episode in the shower).


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It was because Miami Vice was diabolical. Every episode was the same.

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Can't recall for sure but didn't Miami Vice air at the same time as Dallas?

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Briefly, in the fall of 1986 when Bobby came back.


Non-sequiturs are delicious.

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Yes, VICE was a one-note '80s poser show.




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Interesting thoughts.

He's nothing next to Bart Taylor.

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Thank you, DrEVIL28910



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You should write a tell all book about Dallas I'm sure It will be a best seller.

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Bless you, great_one_32789!


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Very entertaining analysis of one of my favorite TV shows…at least, before the dream season. There was still some good parts of the '86-87 season but not much after that, IMO.

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"There was still some good parts of the '86-87 season but not much after that, IMO."

Despite its flaws, that season was the last to feature all 3 of the main Ewing brother-and-wife combos of Bobby/Pam, J.R./Sue Ellen, and Ray/Donna(even though they split up and replaced it the less classic Ray/Jenna combo) giving some semblance to the feel of classic "Dallas". After Donna left and Pam's car crash with her being "killed off but not really killed off" it never was the same again.

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Additionally, the '86-'87 season was the last season with the ORIGINAL Ewing Oil. The Ewings lost it in the season finale. The next season, J.R. and Bobby formed new companies. It didn't feel the same without Ewing Oil. At the end of the '87-88 finale, Bobby got the name of "Ewing Oil" back and J.R. recovered most (but not all) of Ewing Oil's assets, but the recombined Ewing Oil didn't feel the same, especially when Bobby made Cliff a partner.

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True. With Cliff and J.R. working together at Ewing Oil and Bobby falling for and marrying one of J.R.'s leftovers(April) it just didn't feel like Dallas but a different show entirely.

Some good stuff of the later years for me: the range war with the McKays, the Ewings dealing with the Russians(I like the scene where Bobby and J.R. exchange stetsons and fur hats with the Russians as a good will gesture), and Laurel Ellis(that gorgeous English brunette that got involved with Clayton and J.R.. I was kind of hoping she would've gotten involved with Bobby instead.)

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I'm not sure that many viewers consider Laurel Ellis to be some of the later years' good stuff, however.


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Forgot about Laurel Ellis! Thought she was very pretty. The tension that came between Miss Elie and Clayton b/c of Clayton's friendship with her reminds me of how Julie Grey brought smiliar tension between she and Jock.

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But the Laurel Ellis story felt very forced.



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Additionally, the '86-'87 season was the last season with the ORIGINAL Ewing Oil. The Ewings lost it in the season finale. The next season, J.R. and Bobby formed new companies. It didn't feel the same without Ewing Oil. At the end of the '87-88 finale, Bobby got the name of "Ewing Oil" back and J.R. recovered most (but not all) of Ewing Oil's assets, but the recombined Ewing Oil didn't feel the same, especially when Bobby made Cliff a partner.
Although I'm not sure if that was caused by the loss of Ewing Oil or the loss of Pam.

Also, the pacing of the plotlines began to feel "off" from this point forward… I mean, the decision to take on Cliff at Ewing Oil now that Pam had disappeared is something I could see Miss Ellie and Bobby agreeing on, but to decide on it during a 10 second exchange in the Southfork living room without any sense of gravity? Without even one of Bobby's uncomfortable pauses before he said, "Sure, let's do it…" ???


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Do you mean the patented Bobby Ewing pause? The one where he takes a big deep breath, but never fully exhales. Is that what you are referring to? And I would also like to go on record as a big fan of your synopsis. You and the Graison Mustache are the glue that holds this board together.
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