One Eight Seven : Is this movie realistic

I don't live in US so I don't know if it's *beep* or realistic.

Do many US school's have metal detectors and lots of security and do the kids use class A drugs in school.

Yes, a lot of schools do have metal detectors and security/police officers.

When I was in high school, I knew where some of the kids hid their pot and cigarettes, and I witnessed few kids snorting coke in class(where a teacher couldn't see them). There was also a police officer with his own office in the school. No metal detectors though.

I suppose the US needs security and police in schools because guns are so easily available and you stay in school till 18 we leave at 16.

The UK schools are starting to become like these schools. Since i posted this question a teacher was murdered in school for the first time ever in UK, I would imagine many US teachers have been murdered especially in neighbourhood's shown in this movie

It happens, but not as much as some would think. It's usually kids killing each other or themselves that's on the news.

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I suppose the US needs security and police in schools because guns are so easily available and you stay in school till 18 we leave at 16.

The UK schools are starting to become like these schools. Since i posted this question a teacher was murdered in school for the first time ever in UK, I would imagine many US teachers have been murdered especially in neighbourhood's shown in this movie

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isn't that kind of a contradictory thing to say? You say the problems come from guns, which non-Americans seem to think are just passed out on the street, but then you say UK schools are starting to become like the school in One Eight Seven. Aren't guns pretty much unattainable in the UK? Yet you still have violence in schools and even a teacher murdered, you say. Wouldn't that seem to suggest it's a problem not associated with guns, but with sociology.

Schools like the one depicted in this film are the way they are because of the presence of gangs. Gangs deal in drugs, money, and violencehence the presence of guns. Think of it like prisonguns can't really be smuggled into prisonsit happens occasionally, but it's rare and difficult. But that doesn't stop inmates from killing each other. They'll do it with a sharpened toothbrush if they have to.



That said, there are parts of this movie that are pretty ridiculous. Like the students threatening to sue all the time. Since tort reform, that just doesn't happenand to sue you need a lawyer, and that costs money. In theory, since the gangbangers make money from selling drugs and whatnot, they might be able to afford one, but kids that are into that and still go to schoolthey're not making much on the street. But even if they had money, it's not that simple. Sure, anybody can file a lawsuitbut that doesn't mean it would cost a school district money. Every district has a lawyer(s) on retainer and no sane judge would allow a frivolous lawsuit against, say, a student suing the school because he was accused of stealing a teacher's possessions. School administrators in districts like this are more concerned with keeping things calmwith keeping a gang war from breaking out in their schools.
And the other thingunless the kids are all 18, they're minors. And minors can't do anything in a legal sense without their parents. And even if they're 18saying you'd sue over the school for searching a student's lockerit's just laughable. The locker is the school's property, and therefore everything in it is subject to school rules and inspection for any reason. Some schools do random locker searches, mostly for drugs, sometimes for weapons. It's not like they need probable causeit's not private property. The reason administrators bow down is because the gangs have power through violenceand will do things like shoot up a teacher or principal's house. Not because they'll hire lawyers


also, just to be clear, this isn't the common state of schools in the U.S. bar far. This is a depiction of a school in a very urban area with a heavy gang presence. The vast majority of U.S schools aren't like this.

I didn't say guns are to blame for the violence I just said that's why you'd need security as guns are easy to get.

Sounds like blacks are taking over that place.

I'm class of 89' and grew up in venice beach California, we didn't have metal detectors . But what we didn't have, was a shortage of was gangsters ! The school was big, so we had several different gangs. My school had several drive by shootings, I've saw gangsters pulling guns and sawed off shot guns out of their lockers . To me it was sort of normal. I ditched school (hooky, cut class) and went surfing, just so I wouldn't have to deal with the gang bangers.
I can only imagine how much worse it is today .

Sorry but school's in Britain are nothing like the one in 187, seriously Nothing like so you are misinformed fellow but stupid Brit.

Well you can't read I said 'starting' to be like that there probably a few decades away from becoming that bad. If you think kids in some schools don't have weapons it's you that's misinformed I left school almost ten years ago and even then SOME kids had knives and knuckle dusters on them.

technically no movie is realistic, even true stories.

No, very small minority of schools are like this.

But every school has groups of bad kids who do drugs, I guarantee even yours, wherever you live in the world.

I graduated H.S in 2003 and i went to a suburban schoolWhich is basically the exact opposite of the type of school you saw in "187". It was by no means a perfect schoolbut it wasnt as bad as it could have been. And Metal Detectors were put in place in 2001. Of course though i grew up in the era of the beginning of Mass School Shootings.

Does it matter if it is?

Apparently, it is to the person who asked the question, dorkface.

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liverpool26
I don't live in US so I don't know if it's *beep* or realistic.

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I was a teenager in northern California from the mid to late 1980s. I can confirm that the high school clothes, hair and makeup was accurate for that time period. The only thing that seemed updated to the late 1990s were the shoes.

The school layout, with main building and bungalow classrooms, isn't something I've seen before. Maybe that's a difference between north and south California schools?

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No two persons ever watch the same movie.

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