Sex and the City : Why Miranda?

Why Miranda?

So does anyone ever wonder why the writers
pick Miranda to be the one who gets pregnant?

I thought they were going to go with Charlotte.

Samantha would have had an abortion, Charlotte would be happy, and
a baby might make Big more willing to commit to Carrie.
I am unsure if Carrie would had been prepared to be a mom.

Your thoughts?

I guess they went with Miranda because she is a career woman.

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I think it's because Miranda isn't an ideal mother. Charlotte wanted a baby desperately and couldn't whereas Miranda didn't want a baby, and got pregnant easily.

Samantha couldn't have been a mother, she was too selfish and absorbed. Plus, she had a demanding job.

Carrie couldn't have been a mother for the same reason, except she also freaked out way too muchimagine her trying to take care of a baby. I could also see Big possibly denying the paternity.

Miranda was uptight and a workaholic. Perhaps the writers wanted viewers to see her in a different light, that she COULD be a mother, and possibly they wanted a way to work in Steve more

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I always thought that Samantha would have been a good candidate for the very reason you stated in she wouldn't be. I thought that if they had her becoming pregnant unexpectedly, she would be forced to grow as a person. We would see her struggling with being maternal and not being able to do the stuff she was used to. It would painted as a more emotionally mature person and not the hedonistic, slutty middle age women who was begining to look pitiful.

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But didn't Sam already admit to having had two abortions? Why would a third pregnancy make her want to have a baby now? And I reject your notion that men and women that prefer to remain single and childless are *slutty*.

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But didn't Sam already admit to having had two abortions?

From the way she put it, they occurred while she was in school. She would not be in a position to care for a child, even less than Carrie was in with the guy from Tunnel.


And I reject your notion that men and women that prefer to remain single and childless are *slutty*.

Sigh, I reject your notion that my post even hints at that. Samantha would still be a slut if she didn't change her actions after having a child. One would hope she would change for the better and raise her child in a healthy environment weather she was a single parent or married. Step down from the SJW soap box.

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I think that even if Samantha did get pregnant anyways, she would still have gotten an abortion.

She had no recourse about getting two and spoke about them so carelessly.

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Yeah, she was very nonchalant about it.The scene you mention about the two abortions was cringe worthy. She puts Carrie on blast, "come on, we've all been there. I had two, how many have you had Carrie?" I always thought it was a mistake as it made her seem inhumane. She didn't care she participated in affairs that hurt the wives of the men she slept with. I always thought they gave her the dog in the film to give her some humanity by having her responsible for another life.

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It's not inhumane to have an abortion and not feel guilty about it. It's just something that happens for some people. It can be the right thing at the time and it's nothing to be ashamed of. Samantha was very human. Her belief was that people are responsible for themselves. She didn't feel it was her fault or her responsibility to check if someone was married or if their spouse was okay with them having sex outside the marriage - that was their responsibility. I don't see anything wrong with that, actually.

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I never thought that only because Cynthia Nixon was pregnant in real life. Her pregnancy was written into the show.

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I dont see samantha as the maternal type since it wasnt her style but i guess it would have caused her to grown up and mature.

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Except for the pitiful movies, I always thought of Sam as being very grown and mature. She knew exactly what she wanted and lived her life to the fullest.

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She knew exactly what she wanted

To become a women who was known for spreading her legs for nearly any man with her vagina being considered the hottest spot in town? Talk about shooting high. I wonder what she would say if asked about what she accomplished in life. very bleak.

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Same here. I did hate the way they wrote her in SATC2, though. No way that someone of her professional caliber would run around flaunting her sexuality in Abu Dhabi knowing full well what a strict moral code they have in place there. It just made her look stupid.

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I thought she was very emotionally immature.

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She was, but not in the beginning. She seemed to be more cynical about love then flat out avoiding it and just seeking random sex.

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Well, apparently Miranda (Cynthia Nixon) actually was pregnant in real life so that would probably be their reasoning. Ignoring that, though, I think she was the right choice.


As you say, Samantha would've probably had an abortion so having it as her would've been fairly pointless (also because for some reason, despite the subject matter of the show, having someone have an abortion is still a thing that most shows/networks don't go for in fear of upsetting viewers).


Charlotte getting pregnant, IMO, would've kind of ruined her storyline. The entire point of Charlotte's first marriage and then second was showing that just because you have the 'perfect' guy doesn't mean you're going to have a 'perfect' life. Charlotte had believed that and had, unfortunately, had a rude awakening (Plus, if she'd managed to get pregnant with Trey then she may have ended up staying with him and she never would've met Harry). In her second marriage, she learned that just because your husband might not be conventionally attractive or because you end up having a child in a different way it doesn't make them any less special and it doesn't mean your life is any less 'perfect'.


The idea of Carrie becoming a parent and being responsible for another human being is terrifying. She is so irresponsible. She admitted that sometimes she would buy vogue instead of food, she goes broke and has no money several times because she buys expensive things that she can't actually afford, she's too neurotic and overreacts too much (could you imagine her having to change a nappy/diaper?), and over all I think she's just too selfish to have one (there's nothing wrong with not having children/choosing not to have children, I just feel like her character would not do well as a mother because she is very selfish anyway). Also,


a baby might make Big more willing to commit to Carrie.


that is not the way to get a guy to commit. A baby doesn't make problems go away, it just creates new ones. If she'd had a baby with Big before he was emotionally ready to commit to her that could've been disastrous. Having said that, I actually think Big would make a good Dad but only under the right circumstances. Maybe once Big and Carrie were married they could've had a baby and successfully raised it but before that it never would have worked.

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IDK, I can't imagine Samantha or a women her age and with her money opting for an abortion. I had a hard time liking Miranda when her first choice was abortion. She didn't lack financially.No matter when she had a child, her job would have to be scaled back. It didn't seem right to me.

Can you imagine how Charlotte would feel if Samantha became pregnant.I could set defiantly see her wanting an abortion at first, she never wanted children. But remember she also didn't want marriage, but she wanted to marry Jamesuntil found out about his lacking manhood. In that instance the tension between her and Charlotte would be worse.I can see there relationship going back and forth with Charlotte being critical of Samantha's lack of experience. Samantha would begrudgingly seeking her out for her help. A baby crying during one of her dates would be funny. We would se progress into a more mature and less self centered person. She would still have a social life and become one of those women who had children and still led a glamorous life. She wouldn't get married and choose to be a single parent. She would be an example of people dealing with a life the never imagined for themselves.

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I can't imagine Samantha or a women her age and with her money opting for an abortion.


I can. She never wanted children at all and I don't see her changing her mind just because she's older and has money. It may have made for an interesting plot if they had taken that route but I just can't see it. That's not who Samantha was/is as a person/character.



I had a hard time liking Miranda when her first choice was abortion.


I actually found that very realistic. It was a surprise to her, she hadn't planned it, she hadn't expected it to happen, and she didn't think she wanted the baby so it's only natural that aborting the baby would be her first thought.



She didn't lack financially.


Money has nothing to do with being ready for a baby, though. Sure it helps and people would rather be in a financially secure position when they have them but that doesn't always mean that the person is physically, mentally, and emotionally ready to have a baby.



No matter when she had a child, her job would have to be scaled back.


True but she would've had more time to plan and prepare for that if she had chosen when she wanted to have a baby.


Ultimately, she never went through with the abortion anyway and decided to keep the baby so this entire post is kind of irrelevant but I don't think her first thought being abortion should automatically be seen as a bad thing. Some people aren't cut out for being parents and don't want to be and that's ok. She ended up deciding that she was cut out for it and that she did want him and that's ok too.

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How is my entire post irrelevant? It's based on my opinion about the decision the characters make and alternative routes the characters could take. There are a lot of people who end up making decisions that goes against what they initially plan. The actress Eva Mendes said for years that she did not want children but at the of 40 became pregnant and had a baby. It isn't that cut a dry and when actually faced with a decision you may choose a different route. It is another life they are making a decision over not a career or a decision only affecting one person. My beef with Miranda is that she initially never even considered keeping it and had no intention on telling Steve. Even Carrie thought her decision should have been reconsidered and that Steve should know. I always thought that it would give Samantha a little more humanity to care for another life and maturity. If my post is irrelevant than so is the thread.

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Sorry, my wording was bad. I didn't mean your post in particular was irrelevant, I was actually referencing the whole thread (I just used the wrong word) just because the fact is Miranda was the one who got pregnant so the wondering of why it was her and who else it could've been is kind of an irrelevant discussion but that doesn't mean it isn't fun to discuss.


I'm very aware that people make decisions that go against what they initially plan because you can't plan everything. Surprises happen and things change.



It is another life they are making a decision over not a career or a decision only affecting one person.


I feel like this issue partly hangs on when a person believes that a baby is actually alive (just as the issue of abortion as a whole) because some believe they are alive from conception while others think it's later in the development cycle. They are making a decision over whether or not to bring a new life into the world which is definitely a hard decision and it's one that I don't think I would ever be able to go though with myself but I understand the reasoning as to why other people do.



My beef with Miranda is that she initially never even considered keeping it and had no intention on telling Steve.


While I agree that she should've told Steve, regardless of whether she was going to have the abortion or not, I don't blame her or judge her for her mind immediately going to abortion. I guess that's also to do with differing views on abortion itself, though. Steve has a right to know either way but I can also understand why initially she may be scared to tell him because if she had told him and then told him she wanted to abort it, he may have turned round and said he wanted the baby which was a conversation she probably didn't feel prepared/ready for at that time.

It's not an easy situation for anyone and it's not an easy conversation because at the end of the day, although it worked out well in this scenario because they both wanted the baby, in most cases it's a lot more complicated than that. You could have the Mum wanting to keep it and the Dad wanting nothing to do with it, on the other hand the Dad might want to keep the baby while the Mum doesn't but the Mum would still have to carry the burden because she's the one that would have to carry the baby and give birth to it. The Dad could say he wants to keep it, convince the Mum to have it, and then halfway through the pregnancy decide he's changed his mind by which point it's too late for the Mum to change anything and now she's stuck with a baby she might not want. The Mum could decide she wants the baby, carry it to full term, and then as soon as it's born leave it with the Dad and run off. There are so many things that could happen that it's not an easy situation and I don't envy anyone that finds themselves experiencing it and having to make the decision.



Even Carrie thought her decision should have been reconsidered and that Steve should know.


In farness, though, Carrie was initially completely on Miranda's side and she only changed her mind and decided she thought Miranda should tell Steve because she told Aidan and he thought she should tell him.

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I hate the abortion debate, especially when dealing with a woman wanting an abortion and the man wanting to keep and vice-versa. I recall doing some research on the topic of men having a say in the decision of abortion. Every poll was in favor of men having a role, but in the discussion nobody could come to a desirable conclusion. I think it is particularly unfair to men. He wants the baby but she does not, so as you said, what happens? A women could carry the child as does a surrogate, and hand the baby over at birth. But is that not somewhat psychologically twisted.But on the flip side a woman can have a baby against the wishes of the father and he is forced to provide financially.It's a no win disproportionate issue. I am reasonably pro-life in which I believe that rape victims and incest cases and issues were a pregnancy is deadly to the carrier.Ugh, I hate this topic because it creates such conflicting thoughts. But I agree, I as well don't envy those who make such decisions.I kind of had Charlotte's response when I first saw it. They should have kept it mum until Miranda was sure or to not say anything in Charlotte's presence at all considering her difficulties.Very sticky subject.



In fairness, though, Carrie was initially completely on Miranda's side and she only changed her mind and decided she thought Miranda should tell Steve because she told Aidan and he thought she should tell him.

I don't think it was so much that she was on her side as she simply listened to Miranda and did not give her opinion. I think by the time Carrie suggested Miranda should rethink, it was after the situation sunk in. I think her expressing her opinion was helped by the argument of telling Steve, but not because of it. Miranda was 36 and working with only one functioning ovary and wanted to have children, why not? Idk, I just thought her automatic first choice wasnt wise and too knee jerkas we know in the end. Interesting and sometimes heated topic to debate though.

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I hate this topic because it creates such conflicting thoughts.



Interesting and sometimes heated topic to debate though.


Definitely! It's such a hard thing to think about as well, and most people's opinions are pretty set one way or the other and people do get very passionate about it. I admit, I'm pro-choice so my opinion will be somewhat biased because of that. It doesn't mean I'm pro-abortion necessarily (I could never go through with one), but I think it should be available as a choice. It's definitely not a situation I hope to ever find myself in, though, because it isn't easy.

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Do you think that Big would had been a good father and if he would fought for child custody given Carrie's carelessness.

Carrie spend all her time on fashion so I doubt she would had been a good mother, but who knows, maybe she would had mature.

Look at Miranda!

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I agree with what mermaidmotel said earlier in this thread. If you're the writer of the show, who would be the least possible candidate to actually get pregnant, halfway into a successful series?

And no offence to the others about Nixon being pregnant in real life, because she wasn't. The episode "Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda" was aired 5 Aug. 2001, and Cynthia gave birth to her second child in December 2002.

Miranda did want to have a child at some point, but she didn't know when or with who. She was considering freezing her eggs, she had no boyfriend and was in the middle of a great career. I think the writers had at the time approximately mapped out what would happen to the characters and possibly childbirths, and Charlotte was too desperate, and just as in life itself, it usually becomes the one who least wants a child who becomes pregnant.

Additionally, it became morally interesting and raised many questions when Miranda first wanted to have an abortion. Which is something I'm sure that the writers never had in mind. Instead, it was decided that Miranda would keep the baby, which obviously caused complications in the friendship between Charlotte and Miranda. So they developed that track within the narrative, and another layer of humanity to the show.

In my opinion, Miranda being the one who gets pregnant, is the best decision they could have made. Lots of questions, lots of discussions, just the best :)

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I think miranda being unexpectedely pregnant made sense versus charlotte who wanted a child badly.

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Yes, I think it made sense as well. It was yet another storyline within the series and obviously a good one. We still discuss it! :)

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What kind of mother would you think Carrie would had been?

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That's an interesting question, and the "normal", the everyday Carrie we see throughout the series until season 6, she seemed to be quite immature for having a baby. Not everyone is prepared to be a mother in their 20s, I think the average age for having the first baby in Stockholm (as a comparison with New York) is 32 years old. And initially, Carrie didn't seem to be the "baby type", but who really are?

But judging by the way she handled Brady while Miranda and Steve were on their "honeymoon", I would actually say that she would be a really great mother. At the time with Aleksandr she was 38, and that's normally when the "baby bells" start ringing, because time is running out. I think she would've been prepared to have a baby with Alek, if things didn't turn out the way they did. Although, I'm glad that she didn't, with Alek.

But to give birth to a child is a life changing thing, just look at Miranda, even though it took a while before she realised what Brady really meant to her. And I believe that would've been the same with Carrie.

She was more mature at the time, and I think she would be a good and responsible mother who set boundaries, but still be a fun and loving mother. I don't think she was the type who would spoil her child, much in the same way as Miranda raised Brady. After all, they were most similar when it came to the issue of children. Not like Samantha who really didn't want to have any, or Charlotte, whose goal in life was a marriage, and particularly children :)
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