Sex and the City : Very judgemental about sex

Very judgemental about sex

Is it just me or were they very judgemental about sex.

From anal to bisexuality, they seemed to have very negative views on a lot of sexual practices.

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Charlotte's views on bisexuality were incredibly offensive, "pick a side and stay there" Give me a break. But for the most part I feel that the views were realistic given peoples different opinions. It wouldn't ring true that all 4 women would have progressive views on things, not to mention be quite boring. Anal sex isn't for everyone, so its understandable it would create a debate amongst the women

"What you don't like rice? Tell me Michael, how can a billion Chinese people be wrong?"

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I don't think they were judgmental when it wasn't necessary. The times they were judgmental, which isn't inherently bad,is when it came to areas in which they should be judgmental.I think when Carrie was sleeping with Big, they rightfully had her being scolded by Charlotte and smacked down by Natasha. They seemed to tip toe around Samantha, but it you read between the lines it was clear that characters did not approve of her lifestyle. The writers seemed to go back and forth with how they wanted her to be viewed.

They were indeed very dismissive about bisexuality, however, their were some truths sprinkled into their criticisms. It does seem that bisexual people, or those that claim they are, often give off the impression of being a little loose. With women it comes across like they are either doing it for attention and with men, as Carrie quipped "A layover on their way to gaytown".Also, especially with famous women, their seems to be a trend with famous women declaring they are bisexual yet they are all married to men. I think the more prominent bisexuals make a bad name for the legitimate cases.I don't ever think I have seen a group of people who were as fluid as Carries boyfriend was. It was like all of them slept with each other. I think she was a little paranoid though, like the guy was going to jump anyone's bones.I am not even going to touch anal sex question as I really am not familiar with the practice as I myself find it somewhat disgusting.

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Do you have any other examples or just the two things they judged? I don't see a problem with them not being interest in anal. Just because Samantha is willing to try anything doesn't mean someone is wrong or judgmental if something sexual doesn't appeal to them.

The bisexual thing, yes, they were too judgmental of. I chalk it up to this episode airing like 3 years after sitcom Ellen announced she was gay and a lot of regions wouldn't even air someone SAYING they were gay and they had a parental advisory (for being gay!) so even though we've come a long way, I am not surprised that seeing how shunned non straight people were (unless they were flaming stereotypes, those could get on TV I guess) that they and the writers wouldn't have the most open minded view on bisexuality. Mostly because it came off like "oh all these young people, so crazy, all bi's, all of course dating everyone and everyone is cool with it what generational gap!" as if all bisexual people are also super promiscuous and not even worth a formal breakup.

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Women are set up to go "Yuck" to sexual things, so what they do on this show is not unexpected.

My favorite New York moments:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ0Sqmnle6Y

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What do you mean by set up?

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Nature. Lack of sexual perversion.

My favorite New York moments:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ0Sqmnle6Y

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So since you seem to be claiming this is scientific and not just something you are making up, why would women be set up to have no sexual perversion while men are? What's the benefit?

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What he thinks is that women are not into kinks as much as men are. For a reason I can't remember, I've got j-curl on my friends list, (I have most of the regulars there) and the other day I actually checked, first time, and since the topic was about porn. Which mostly is an interesting thing to discuss.

But the posts I read made me kind of drop my jaw, and I was this /-----/ close to reply. Let's just say that the perception of a woman when having sex seems to belong in the 19th century. There was something about disregarding women's opinions, because we're simply not good at sex, and all we do is to lay on our backs like a dead fish hahaha. I'm confused, that's not my favourite...

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Ha ha well I hate when seemingly personal experiences maybe = all women are programmed to not like sexual things.

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Exactly. And quite honestly, if a guy is good, then you're good, and vice versa. So, what does that tell us? :)

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I kind of got the same impression.
From butt-licking, to tea-bagging, to doing uncircumcised men, yep, that's all I can recall.

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I don't think they were judgemental about those topics. The azz-licking thing was fairly disgusting and not a thing normal people do. The majority of women don't really like uncircumcised men...in the states at least. I don't recall them discussing tea-bagging except during a misunderstanding with Harry leaving actual tea bag around the apartment.

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They were all grossed out about Tom Big Boned going down on Miranda then kissing her. That's pretty common and if you're clean down there it's not gross...

But they were all pretty safe/vanilla except Samantha. Did Carrie ever have sex in a position besides missionary? Lol

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Carrie nearly came across as a prude when she discussed such matters with the girls, which is odd considering she wrote a column about sex.

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Well, Carie did consider participating in giving the politician guy a golden shower.
Also, Miranda had dated the guy she jogged with who liked to um ...lick her backside, which actually is, aside from Samantha's funky spunk, the most disgusting act that the show discussed. I think Charlotte admitted, to everyone's sure participating in both receiving and giving when she was with Trey.The girls, even Samantha, reacted with disgust that Charlotte returned the favor.

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Yes, they were judgy. I also found their opinions about circumcision very offensive.

BUT they are from a different generation, and Charlotte was very uptight. I like to think that her character got smarter as time went on.

The big moments are gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that counts.

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I didn't see them as being judgy with the circumcision, it is something American women prefer and a common practice. Besides, I here the same amount of criticism in non American people talking about it being barbaric despite the contrary of the procedure.

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I didn't see them as being judgy with the circumcision, it is something American women prefer and a common practice. Besides, I here the same amount of criticism in non American people talking about it being barbaric despite the contrary of the procedure.


I disagree. Some of them seemed repulsed by it and they compared an intact penis to looking like a dog.

I can't say I can compare people calling it barbaric to essentially mocking an intact penis--as it's very different to have a strong opinion about an invasive and unnecessary surgical procedure, than it is to be disgusted by a man who is intact. I have a huge issue with circumcision but I'd never judge a man for being circumcised.

The big moments are gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that counts.

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I understand what you mean, I know a lot of American women are indeed disgusted with intact, but I think the extreme opinions are on both sides of the debate.

You mention that it is an unnecessary and invasive procedure but it has been proven that it does indeed have benefits. I have read articles that discuss adult males who had the procedure and they have no problems with it. When something like that is said it sparks the the extreme opinions mainly because it is not accurate.I can't say that they are wrong by saying that they dislike the look, that's just personal preference if they are disgusted.

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You mention that it is an unnecessary and invasive procedure but it has been proven that it does indeed have benefits.


Actually, it doesn't! Those "benefits" have been dubunked time and time again. However, the medical field (mostly in North America) tends to still push these false "facts" in order to keep the procedure going. It's a business for them, and many have a personal bias in favour of it. A lot of people still believe that it's beneficial for preventing the spread of HIV/AIDS, but that's easily prevented by practicing safe sex and teaching that to our boys. Many people also believe it's "cleaner", but, again, not true. Smegma can form on circumcised penises (the pro-circumcision camp tends to believe this is something only intact men can produce, which is untrue). More importantly, proper hygiene prevents smegma altogether! My partner of more than 5 years is European and intact and I've never seen him dirty *down there*. He is actually cleaner than the circumcised men I've been with.

There's no concrete evidence that circumcision has any benefit. What it DOES do is remove thousands of nerve endings (aka pleasure points) from the penis. It also exposes the glans (tip) of the penis to constant rubbing against underwear/clothing, which causes it to callous and lose sensitivity over time.

There are also infants who die every year due to botched circumcisions. In some traditional Jewish circumcision ceremonies, the Rabbi actually uses his mouth to suck the blood off the tip of the circumcised penis. In the last few years I have heard about several cases in which the Rabbi had herpes and passed the virus on to the child, who did not yet have an immune system capable of handling it and subsequently died. (Source: http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/07/health/new-york-neonatal-herpes/)

I have zero issue with circumcision if it's something an older male decides for himself, but the forced procedure on infants too young to make the choice for their own bodies is, to me, barbaric.

The big moments are gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that counts.

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Actually, it doesn't! Those "benefits" have been dubunked time and time again. However, the medical field (mostly in North America) tends to still push these false "facts" in order to keep the procedure going. It's a business for them, and many have a personal bias in favour of it. A lot of people still believe that it's beneficial for preventing the spread of HIV/AIDS, but that's easily prevented by practicing safe sex and teaching that to our boys. Many people also believe it's "cleaner", but, again, not true. Smegma can form on circumcised penises (the pro-circumcision camp tends to believe this is something only intact men can produce, which is untrue). More importantly, proper hygiene prevents smegma altogether! My partner of more than 5 years is European and intact and I've never seen him dirty *down there*. He is actually cleaner than the circumcised men I've been with.

Yeah....no. I am going to keep this as short as possible even though their are so many things that are wrong in this post. Ok, so, despite all the scientific evidence that has been provided by neutral bodies that have no benefit either way are wrong? You're very post is tainted with bias information and sounds exactly like the people I mentioned with their extremes. The risks from the procedure are very very rare.I have read MANY studies on the subject that are factual, that provide information that proves the benefits.I have never heard of a circumcised person accumulate smegma. It only builds up in uncut males as it accumulates in skin folds, none ever said the cut men cant produce it, it just does not accumulate.


There's no concrete evidence that circumcision has any benefit. What it DOES do is remove thousands of nerve endings (aka pleasure points) from the penis. It also exposes the glans (tip) of the penis to constant rubbing against underwear/clothing, which
causes it to callous and lose sensitivity over time.


Wrong, I have said in my post about men who where had the procedure as adults did not lose any pleasure. There is no proof that their is a decrease in pleasure.


There are also infants who die every year due to botched circumcisions. In some traditional Jewish circumcision ceremonies, the Rabbi actually uses his mouth to suck the blood off the tip of the circumcised penis. In the last few years I have heard about several cases in which the Rabbi had herpes and passed the virus on to the child, who did not yet have an immune system capable of handling it and subsequently died. (Source: http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/07/health/new-york-neonatal-herpes/)

Sigh, yeah their is alot of that going around


I have zero issue with circumcision if it's something an older male decides for himself, but the forced procedure on infants too young to make the choice for their own bodies is, to me, barbaric.


Yeah, well somehow I think us mutilated men will somehow get by. You may as well condemn people who pierce their child s ears as infants. At first I thought I was conversing with someone who was wasnt one of those extremeists, that is were I was wrong.

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Yeah, well somehow I think us mutilated men will somehow get by. You may as well condemn people who pierce their child s ears as infants. At first I thought I was conversing with someone who was wasnt one of those extremeists, that is were I was wrong.


I'm sorry you feel that way. But, just like the rest of your post, your opinion of me is just that: an opinion...and one lacking any real facts.

If believing that men deserve rights over their own bodies makes me an extremist, then sign me up proudly! I'll wear that badge.

I thought i was communicating with someone intelligent but, alas, the internet has disappointed me once again.

The very fact that you can compare circumcision to ear piercing is mind boggling, but, again, this goes back to my intelligence comment.

It says a lot about you that you support needlessly cutting off a part of the most sensitive part of the body on a baby boy who cannot speak for himself. Yeesh. It's amazing to me that people like you still exist in 2016.

By the way, I noticed you've never once mentioned what supposed benefits circumcision provides...

because there aren't any.

Bye!

The big moments are gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that counts.

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Hmm, so you are taking what I said about you and use it on me, despite the fact that you provided absolutely nothing to support your claims other than some link to an article that has no place in the discussion? As you should have done, I utilized google and did my own research to possibly find some legitimate info supporting you and guess what? Every site is either a thinly veiled or blatant ant-circumcision site that either,like you, exaggerates facts, if it even addresses them or makes baseless claims. They sound fanatical and hostile and lack any legitimate research on the topic. God, you are the epitome of the idiots I spoke of in my first post. Oh, read a few of these and enlighten yourself. I mean, you used your "partner" as an example for your argument, one person.Humble yourself as you have absolutely reason to talk as if you've won the debate.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/circumcision/basics/why-its-done/prc-20013585

http://www.today.com/health/circumcision-benefits-outweigh-risks-cdc-says-1D80331010.

%0D%3Cbr%3E%0D%3Cbr%3E">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2860727/Benefits-circumcision-outweigh-risks-Procedure-cuts-risk-HIV-STDs-penile-cancer-official-report-declares.html


http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/27/health/circumcision-policy/


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/male-circumcision-benefits-outweigh-risks-cdc-says/



Funny, I have visited some forums about topic, and I cant find one were there were level headed proponent that is against circumcision. They are always hostile, overly impassioned and more often then not stupid: "circumcision ruins the child's life and they could die during the procedure" or "it ruins there sex life and is barbaric and abusive". They sound like those smug women who boast about natural births and judge women who opt for c-sections.

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Yes! I really hate this episode. Like it's something wrong with being bi but perfectly fine to have gay friends. thanks.. and I'm bi. Bisexuals do exist... They are kind of judgemental a lot of times in this show about certain things while Samantha is more open. It's not like I always like the characters. They can be pretty narrow minded.. which I hate.

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You people are being ridiculous. There are even gay people who don't agree/believe in bi-sexuality

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Well if this guy says some gay person said that (allegedly), then we must all believe it!

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