Jonathan Brandis : Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
Do you know for a fact these actors had been omitted? I haven't watched the Oscars in years but I do remember those In Memorium(al) segments and it seemed to try to include everyone. I thought I remember seeing Brandis on there before..
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Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
I dont know about the others but the only awards show to include Jonathan in their In Memoruim segment was the SAG Awards. (Screen Actors Guild). Also the only connection to Pettiet that I know of was he was in an episode of Seaquest DSV with Jonathan. (Brothers & Sisters - season 1 ep 7, also starred Kellie Martin)
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
They both auditioned for Lucas also.
The Emmys and Oscars both ignored him - for contradictory reasons, the Oscars saying he was "Primarily a TV actor" and the Emmys saying he was "primarily a screen actor".
"No fate but what we make." -Terminator II
The Emmys and Oscars both ignored him - for contradictory reasons, the Oscars saying he was "Primarily a TV actor" and the Emmys saying he was "primarily a screen actor".
"No fate but what we make." -Terminator II
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
Figures.
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
It is a little ironic. It's like rain, on your wedding day, or a free ride, when you've already paid
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Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
Thank you, Alanis
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
I am no expert, but I have heard about it before.
If you watch this video about Haim and Feldman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlZxPPzjIb0
They were both molested, and I am pretty sure that Brandis could also have been a victim just like them, because they were popular at the same time period.
Haim Said: I was molested when he was 14, so it should be easy to connect under which movie he was talking about.
No wonder why they are depressed.
If you watch this video about Haim and Feldman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlZxPPzjIb0
They were both molested, and I am pretty sure that Brandis could also have been a victim just like them, because they were popular at the same time period.
Haim Said: I was molested when he was 14, so it should be easy to connect under which movie he was talking about.
No wonder why they are depressed.
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
He wasn't.
Really.
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Really.
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Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
And how do you know?
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As they say in court, "asked and answered", years ago. It wasn't true then and it still isn't.
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Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
Just another fine example of Hollywood eating its young.
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Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
The poster AStrangeOldMan doesn't seem to know the things he claims he just has wishful thinking-style opinions.
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Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
Again, previous question asked and answered (constantly.) Yes, I do know what I'm talking about and there is no degree of wishful thinking or 'opinion' involved.
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No fate but what we make. -Terminator II
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
No. You don't. And you're a poser. Period.
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Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
Yes.
I do.
And no amount of 'wishful thinking' is going to change that fact either.
Period.
No fate but what we make. -Terminator II
I do.
And no amount of 'wishful thinking' is going to change that fact either.
Period.
No fate but what we make. -Terminator II
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
There is absolutely no possible way you could know whether he was molested or not unless you were with him 24 hours a day every day. So shut it. Also, you're clearly not a lawyer so stop saying "asked and answered" like that automatically shuts down a conversation.
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
This argument is so old it's simply a given that it's been answered - repeatedly. I'm simply keeping rumors from starting. No, he was not molested. I knew him and he was pretty candid about his life - even up to the end.
True, I'm not a lawyer, I just work for one. The language is habit - particularly when it fits the situation.
But if it suits your illusions that 'all kid actors are sexually molested', don't let me divest you of it, even if I know differently from first-hand contact.
No fate but what we make. -Terminator II
True, I'm not a lawyer, I just work for one. The language is habit - particularly when it fits the situation.
But if it suits your illusions that 'all kid actors are sexually molested', don't let me divest you of it, even if I know differently from first-hand contact.
No fate but what we make. -Terminator II
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
I have no opinion as to whether he was molested. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't, how would I know? The point is, *you* don't know either. Nobody can *know* except the actor himself and the molesters if any even exist, they may not. In which case he was never molested. But you are essentially attempting to prove a negative by saying Brandis never alleged molestation, well that hardly proves anything at all does it? Thousands of children are molested and never tell anyone about it. Stating you *know* something you can't possibly know makes you seem silly. Sure, in your opinion, it didn't happen, so say that, don't claim to know something you can't know and then throw out legal terms you saw on Law & Order to seem smart. You may well work for an attorney, I happen to be one, and you don't sound smart saying "asked & answered" over and over, if not least because the question hasn't been and likely never will be answered, because those qualified to answer it are dead, or won't be fessing up, if they exist. I'm not sure how you're missing the point here TBH.
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
The 'silliness' comes from repeating a rumor endlessly ('asked and answered', so to speak - a short and to-the-point response.) I have simply grown tired of the same untrue (and often ludicrous) rumors being brought up and lost patience with them a decade ago.
They are no more true now than they were then - no matter the time that passes or the number of times they're brought up.
Trust me I knew many kid actors (years after the fact) who WERE molested and the same goes with JB, who knew many himself.
Again, he was not one of them.
I was not, indeed, with him 24/7 and only knew him for the last half of his lifebut I still know people who WERE, and to say that their protectiveness of his image and person was borderline dangerous is to greatly understate the case. Whatever 'Kool-Aid' the kid was putting out, he definitely hypnotized his army well.
Also, his public image, of the fluffy teen-idol coverboy, was crafted by the man himself and the magazines he helped sell and reflected only a small part of his entirety. Suffice to say that he wasn't the 'soft target' he appeared and wasn't really in need of the protection his inspired - though he received it anyway.
The person qualified to authoritatively answer the question (which was asked when he was alive as well, and answered in the same way) is indeed dead and can no longer answer to it, so it is left to those who remain behind and knew the man to "keep the record straight".
There are plenty of things that he never alleged (because they never happened and aren't true) - and as they come up, they will continue to be addressed.
No fate but what we make. -Terminator II
They are no more true now than they were then - no matter the time that passes or the number of times they're brought up.
Trust me I knew many kid actors (years after the fact) who WERE molested and the same goes with JB, who knew many himself.
Again, he was not one of them.
I was not, indeed, with him 24/7 and only knew him for the last half of his lifebut I still know people who WERE, and to say that their protectiveness of his image and person was borderline dangerous is to greatly understate the case. Whatever 'Kool-Aid' the kid was putting out, he definitely hypnotized his army well.
Also, his public image, of the fluffy teen-idol coverboy, was crafted by the man himself and the magazines he helped sell and reflected only a small part of his entirety. Suffice to say that he wasn't the 'soft target' he appeared and wasn't really in need of the protection his inspired - though he received it anyway.
The person qualified to authoritatively answer the question (which was asked when he was alive as well, and answered in the same way) is indeed dead and can no longer answer to it, so it is left to those who remain behind and knew the man to "keep the record straight".
There are plenty of things that he never alleged (because they never happened and aren't true) - and as they come up, they will continue to be addressed.
No fate but what we make. -Terminator II
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
Corey Haim wasn't that young when he died. As tragic as it is, they have no corilation. Life is hard as an actor in Hollywood and even harder when you are raised to think that's the only thing you can do in life. The only thing these men have in common is that they were both bright and very loved.
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
I'm not trying to upset anyone here but I have considered jon being approached by pedophiles before as well. Other fans I discussed it with seem to agree with me that it would've been around seaquest era since his parents were very involved in younger years. He seemed like the kind of guy that would've been upset just by being approached by a pedophile. Even if nothing ever happened to him.
If the pedophile community is as powerful in Hollywood as Haim claimed and Feldman still does, I can see how they could hold a grudge. I'm sure those powerful type of people don't like to be brushed off. Of course, these are just theories and the only people that might know probably wouldn't talk anyway.
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If the pedophile community is as powerful in Hollywood as Haim claimed and Feldman still does, I can see how they could hold a grudge. I'm sure those powerful type of people don't like to be brushed off. Of course, these are just theories and the only people that might know probably wouldn't talk anyway.
You can try to break us but, you only make us stronger.
Re: Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
It's "in memorium" not memorial
Any connection between Brandis, Haim, Renfro, Pettiet?
It is now known that Haim suffered sexual abuse from various older men in Hollywood at the time and it ruined his life. The first incident being done to him at the age of 11 on the set of the movie Lucas from a supposedly extremely successful Hollywood mogul still working today. A number of former child actors have come out and said that pedophilia was rampant in the industry then. In 2011, finally Marty Weiss (a talent manager that started in the 80s) was arrested and convicted on molestation charges but apparently was only one person in a ring of people that were exploiting kids.
It does make one question if the reason they were all omitted from the Oscars is because they were all possibly being molested by the same people at the top in Hollywood?
Just a theory, but one that I think is worth looking into.