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RANK: Planet Terror, Death Proof, Machete, Hobo with a Shotgun

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1. Planet Terror (2007) - 8.5
2. Hobo with a Shotgun (2011) - 8
3. Death Proof (2007) - 8
4. Machete (2010) - 7.5

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1. Planet Terror - A
2. Machete - A
3. Hobo with a Shotgun B+
4. Death Proof C+

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1.Death Proof - Great Villain, Great suspense, Great Atmosphere, and I liked the structure. Poor "Protagonists", just didn't care much about them, however I liked how anti-climatic their main concerns were before Stuntman Mike showed up. Felt like an homage, not a parody. Overall A-

2. Planet Terror- Great Characters, Great Action, Loved the gross out factor. Despite making the film seem scratched, comes off too modern and besides being billed under the title Grindhouse, doesn't feel like a Grindhouse film. It's the pacing that makes it feel too modern which makes it fail at what its attempting to be. Still I enjoyed it. B+

3. Machete- Same comments as Planet Terror: Great Characters, Action, and seediness. Doesn't feel like an old fashion B-movie like it markets itself to be. Main problem, bad casting of Alba and Rodriguez. Their performances are tone deaf. Sometimes they are perfect, other times they are off the mark completely. And while I love Trejo, There are moments when I wonder if he was asleep a few seconds before they told him the cameras were going to roll. I still enjoyed the film. B-

4. Hobo with a shotgun- A mess. Main problem is an incompetent director is still a bad director when lampooning bad films. From goofs as bad as Ed Wood(The sewer cap on the guy. The actor acts like it weighs nothing and it movies like rubber when he's in the street. Maybe intentional but doesn't come off as a gag, it comes off as just bad film making even in a parody) to different styles of acting that make the film too uneven. Hauer is great, the camera can film him doing nothing and it says something about this bum. Everyone else is so far over the top its like they exist in a completely different universe. Even when Hauer goes over the top, we still are with him because he understands what the film is doing. Everyone else just comes off like amateurs and its heightened even more when placed next to Hauer using the same awful script. I hated the lighting in the film: It's night time, they are outside, WHY ARE THEY LIT BY A NEON BLUE LIGHT? HEY? WHY IS THAT BLUE NEON LIGHT IN EVERY OTHER SCENE? It looks silly. Definitely doesn't look like a grimy grindhouse film. I love how the hooker is drinking BJ whiskey (instead of J&B), that's pretty funny. I wonder if that was the director's clever idea? And the Hospital scene an hour in IS awesomely badass. Worth seeing the film for this scene alone. I could go on more, but why bother? It's poor by Grindhouse film standards. D

BONUS:

5. Hell Ride- Wow amazingly awful. Madsen is good but he's typical Madsen. Caradine gives a decent monologue but its his delivery and not the content. Writer Director Bishop might give the worse Wannabe Tough Guy performance ever in film history. Balfour acts like he just read the script a second before he was asked to perform. Dennis Hopper isn't bad but he's so pointless it doesn't matter. And the villain, I can't remember so he must of sucked. Almost entertaining with how bad it is. Almost. If i had to say one thing good about it, it had some good looking women in it(who can't act either). If they didn't market it with Tarantino's name, this would of been shelved forever. F



In all fairness, I've seen all these films multiple times except Hobo. Maybe Hobo has to grow on me? I'll give Hobo another shot since I only watched it once. My one friend who likes it says watch it but pretend its a Troma Film and I'll enjoy it. First viewing didn't seem like it captured a Troma film but I'll give it a shot again with that in mind. It's no Street Trash which is the best Troma Film not made by Troma.

Just my honest opinion. Feel free to disagree. I'm not here to argue about whose opinion is superior. We're just two sides of the same coin that's all.

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Nah, it's all good, mate.
One thing, the blue neon will make sense if you think '80s instead of '70s.
The '80s were NOTHING BUT blue neon.

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Yeah I felt the direction and acting really held Hobo back. I still think it's better than Death Proof and Machete (which I hate), but Planet Terror is my favorite of these grindhouse flicks because manages retain the exploitative charm of the genre while still being a decent movie.

Hobo with a shot gun crossed every boundary and broke every barrier in terms of gratuitous violence, it practically trolled its audience and anyone who ever complained that a film didn't go far enough by giving many of us more than we could handle. I get what they were going for, but without Rutger Hauer this would have been unwatchable in my opinion. The girl was fine, but otherwise he got no help from the supporting cast until The Plague showed up. Hobo needed a Ronny Cox or a Michael Ironside to even out the acting. The neon colors burned out my retinas too.

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The problem with "Death Proof" and "Planet Terror" was that unlike "Hobo with a Shotgun" they weren't really authentic to the grindhouse genre. In the 70s and 80s, grindhouse movies didn't have budgets that ranged in the 10s of millions ($53,000,000 to be exact), CGI effects, big stunt work, or big name actors like Rose McGowan, Josh Brolin, Michael Beihn or Bruce Willis, or big name directors like Robert Rodriguez or Quentin Tarantino. They had cheesy gore effects made from whatever concoction, budgets sometimes as low as less than $10,000, low scale set pieces, and no-names (Rutger Hauer excepted) like Molly Dunsworth, Brian Downey and Gregory Smith, and directors whose experience was nothing but Z-Grade movies, made on the cheap, like Jason Eisner, director of this. The opening credits are a perfect example of what I've been talking about, the music, the train, the yellowish-red tint, it was a more authentic grindhouse moment than any and every moment in "Planet Terror", "Death Proof" and "Machete".

Budgets deflated to 1973 (just for example)

"Grindhouse" (2007): $11,349,365 ("Jaws" (1975) and "Star Wars" (1977) were made for less)

"Hobo with a Shotgun" $1,381,708

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That is very true. I think Hobo With a Shotgun is a true modern Grindhouse film, whereas Planet Terror and Death Proof 'emulate' the genre. Emulation is not as authentic, although I still love all four films. Realistically, it's more accurate to say that Tarantino & Rodriguez's films are "inspired by Grindhouse cinema", whereas Hobo With a Shotgun is the real deal.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

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thank both of you

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Exactly! Don't know what this Tom_Cruises_Testicles and his essay are talking about, he needs to re-watch HWAS without his wife writing for him.

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Planet Terror
Machete
Death Proof
Hobo With a Shotgun

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Death Proof is one the worst movies I've ever seen, and I've seen plenty. Certainly Tarantino's worst, minimally. Cringe-inducing dialog I continually was asking myself: why the *beep* was this movie made?

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1. Hobo with a Shotgun - 10/10 - This was the most fun I had in theaters in ages. It was like a mash-up of The Toxic Avenger and Yojimbo. Very insane, fun and I think - out of all the films - the most well-made.

2. Planet Terror - 8/10 - A lot of fun, but very forgettable for the most part.

3. Machete - 7/10 - Also a lot of fun. My big problem with this is that it was too much of a joke. While Hobo, and to a degree Planet Terror, was played completely straight, Machete was a bit too self-referential and gimmicky.

4. Death Proof - 3/10 - An atrocious, pretentious, very boring and vapid film.

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yeah hobo with shot gun kicks Ass !

i've recently met Jason Eisener on a set

he signed my copy of Hobo,(super nice guy by the way)

he was executive producer on movie called Turbo Kid

and if your into Hobo with a shotgun ,look forward to this one its sick..

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Failbrownie-

Hobo is my favorite of the Neo-Grindhouse films. It's actually a tie between Hobo & Fathers Day (2011). Hobo with a Shotgun reminds me so much of a Troma film. The gore, the characters, the dialogue, the seediness of it all is great.

Also, if you're into gore, check out some of the films from Necrostorm. The De Santi brothers have been making these low-budget Italian gore flicks for about 4 or 5 years now. Adam Chaplin (2011) is my favorite, then Hotel Inferno (2013) and Taeter City (2012) are good, too. Judy (2014) is pretty good, though a bit different from the other films I listed. They were going for suspense rather than just horror or horror/comedy. Infidus (2015) is the only one I haven't seen, but I've heard good things about it.

Ok, I'm done babbling about movies that don't really have anything to do with the topic!

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1. Hobo With A Shotgun: Fun every step of the way.
2. Machete: Also a great movie, it might be number 1 if I had seen Hobo 2 months ago and Machete just now, and not the other way around.
3. Death Proof: Good except for all that freaking TALKING! Kurt Russell as Stuntman Mike was awesome and the chase at the end was cool.
4. Planet Terror: I've never been so bored by a zombie movie in all my life.

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1. Hobo With A Shotgun: at least it can call itself a grindhouse film with a straight face: small budget, oodles of gore, but still a simple story with all the genre templates accounted for. A lot of sick, twisted fun.

The others, for me, are frauds, and disappointing ones too.

2. Death Proof: Tarantino had some fun with it, and Stuntman Mike was cool, but man that pretentious, exhaustingly boring dialogue Making an homage to bad films by making a mediocre one wasn't the wisest move in the world.
3. Machete: apart from Trejo and the now infamous tarzan/intestine combo, this was such a massive let-down. The celebrity cameos are all criminally underused, and the plot is a mess.
4. Planet Terror: an unintelligible mess.

Re: RANK: Planet Terror, Death Proof, Machete, Hobo with a Shotgun

planet terror A-

machete B+

hobo with a shotgun B

Death Proof C (Tarantino is still one of my favorite working directors, but on this one, the dialogue went on and on,and like people know he's known for great dialogue.)

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Hobo = Good. I enjoyed it for the most part. Rutger Hauer continues to be the godddamn man whos performance actually adds a little soul to this 'messy' film.

Death Proof = mostly good. The car chase is more thrilling than any goddamn thing in Planet Terror, and is probably the best piece of pure action out of any of these movies. The end of the first half rocked as well, giving you the release that you most likely came for. Also, the dialogue is not terrible, and a lot of those old grindhouse films Tarantino likes are very low on action. Say whatever you want but he made a Grindhouse movie. The 2nd half was pretty good all-around.

Planet Terror = I don't know if I was in the wrong mood or what but this did very little for me. Terrible CGI as well. Boring.

I haven't seen Machete, don't really have any interest

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The Tarantino ones were not as good (IMO) as the post-Tarantino films:

Hobo With a Shotgun - 9.5/10
Machete - 9/10
Planet Terror - 7/10
Death Proof - 5/10 (Loved the chase at the end, but all of the talking before it almost made me shut the movie off. Its a freakin' grindhouse movie!)

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Hobo With a Shotgun (4.5*)
Machete (4*)
Planet Terror (4*)
Death Proof (3.5*)

Viva Machete!

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I like HWAS the most because it did the grindhouse thing effortlessly. No BS film grains, no fake missing reels, no intermissions and such.

The others are good, but I think this in the best of the bunch. If I didn't know any better I would think this film was actually made in the 70's.

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Planet Terror
Hobo With a Shotgun
Machete
Death Proof (I hate this one)





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Hobo with a shot gun 9/10
Planet terror 8/10
Mchete 7/10
Death proof 5/10

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Death Proof - 9/10
Hobo With a Shotgun - 8/10
Planet Terror - 5/10
Machete - 4/10

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Hobo With a Shotgun was perfect, and by perfect I mean it was exactly what I was expecting. It was a goddam hobo with a goddam shotgun! It had loads of violence, loads of senseless violence, gallons of blood, voluntarily laughable dialogues, a fairly messy story which only serves as a vehicule for all the guts and it had killer characters (both literally and figuratively). The hobo was awesome, Drake and his 2 kids were awesome and the Plague was awesome, only Abby sometimes felt a bit off, but that's a very minor gripe. 10/10

Planet Terror was also perfect. Awesome characters and guts, way over-the-top fantastic (by that I mean "that couldn't be found in real life") elements. It also had a marvellous ending where the main character and the only guy who could have done something to save the world died. 10/10

Death Proof was really great, I can't see why people complain about it. Sure, it dragged for a bit with a lot of chatter, but that helped in excruciatingly showing how unimportant and ordinary the characters were. Purely random chicks who ended up in front of the wrong lense at first and then the wrong car. 9.5/10

Machete was goofy though. The beggining was perfect but when it reached the climactic end fight it literally turned into a comedy. Those pimped out cars with the people bouncing on the back seat made me laugh, sure, but I wanted to laugh at over-the-top gore, not at something that's actually funny. The fact that the mexicans just drove in the rednecks' base and that every half-main character killed/shot someone just for the sake of obviously doing so also annoyed me a bit. But in any cases, Trejo's oneliners and butchering of a sh!tload of guys was highly entertaining. 8/10

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Hobo with a Shotgun - A
Machete - A-
Planet Terror - B-
Death Proof - C

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1. Hobo with a Shotgun - 10
2. Planet Terror - 9
3. Machete - 8.5
4. Death Proof - 7

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1. Hobo With A Shotgun- 10- felt like a genuine exploitation film and not like it was trying to be one like the other movies.

2. Planet Terror- 10- one hell of a ride, and done with a lot of style.

3. Death Proof- 10- The car scenes and scenes with Kurt Russell are great but wish there were more.

4. Machete- 7- fun, but definitely does not live up to the original fake trailer. I feel like it should have focused more on Machete. All the other characters' side stories kind of took away from what it could have been.

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1. Hobo with a Shotgun - 8.0

2. Death Proof - 7.0

3. Planet Terror - 6.5

I have yet to see Machete.

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Hobo with a Shotgun was better than the rest by a wide margin. Probably Planet Terror next. Didn't enjoy Machete or Death Proff nearly as much as this.

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Why not include Black Dynamite?

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It'sdifferent
although it beats these 4 for me

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1. Machete - 9
2. Death Proof - 8
3. Hobo - 7.5
4. Planet Terror - 7

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Hobo With a Shotgun - 7.5/10
Machete - 7/10
Planet Terror - 6.5/10
Death Proof - 5.5/10 (I actually liked the first half better than Planet Terror, but the second half is so bad it drops it down 2 notches)

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Machete
Hobo With a Shotgun
Planet Terror
Death Proof

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Planet Terror
Machete
Hobo With a Shotgun
Death Proof

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Planet Terror A (pure awesomeness!)

Machete B-

Death Proof B- (is it really a B Movie, anyway?)

Hobo Shotgun (haven't seen it but will soon)

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1. Planet Terror - Without a doubt the best of modern GH movies
2. Hobo With a Shotgun - Fun Low budget felt like true Grindhouse mixed with some Kaufman Troma.
3. Machete - A little drawn out, but fun.
4. Death Proof, total crap unless Kurt Russell was on screen.

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1. Death Proof (2007) - 7
2. Planet Terror (2007) - 6.5
3. Machete (2010) - 6
4. Hobo With a Shotgun (2011) - 4.5


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Planet
Machette
Hobo
Death Proof
but i liked planet Hobo & Machette equally
Deathproof blew balls

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Re: RANK: Planet Terror, Death Proof, Machete, Hobo with a Shotgun

Hobo with a Shotgun > Planet Terror > Death Proof > Machete

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1. Machete - Michelle Rodriguez with an eye patch
Most likely, no movie will ever top that. Plus it was pretty awesome all around, some of the best dialogue, and some awesome action/gore.

2. Hobo with a shotgun - I just watched it tonight, so I'm still a bit buzzed from the experience, but it was one of the most brutal movies I have ever seen. Definitely the most brutal non-horror movie I've seen. I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed that it doesn't seem to take place in the Kill Bill universe (unlike: Kill Bill, Death Proof, Planet Terror, Machete)

3. Death Proof - Don't really care much about the car chase at the end, I'll admit that it was cool though. I loved the ending most of all. I also loved how it changed pace so quickly and often.

4. Planet Terror - Highly over-rated. A good movie, but there is no way it belongs on the top of this list. I also hated some of the protagonists in this movie. However, I love that this movie exists on the same universe as Kill Bill, Death Proof, and Machete. I also love the fact that it isn't the last film in the timeline, its awesome that Tarantino and Rodriguez had that balls to do that.

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I'm a bit disappointed that it doesn't seem to take place in the Kill Bill universe unlike: Kill Bill, Death Proof, Planet Terror, Machete)

Um, What? You are disappointed it wasn't directed by Tarantino or Rodriguez?



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